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 01/04/2011 02:13:14 PM · #1
This photo was the last he ever took, shortly after the shutter snapped, we can assume the gunman fired...


Here's the story.

Amazing, and awful all at the same time...
 01/04/2011 02:35:10 PM · #2
what a terrible shame...
 01/04/2011 03:05:52 PM · #3
This photo is one of the most macabre I've seen. It's chilling to see the eyes of the killer for one thing. But to consider that the victim is taking the photo pushes it over the edge. I don't think the victim was aware of the killer. If he were, would the photo be more or less intense? I can't imagine.
 01/04/2011 03:08:53 PM · #4
Crazy. I suppose this has already been confirmed as real and not photoshopped?
 01/04/2011 03:15:35 PM · #5
Gonna be hard for that guy to create an alibi with this photo on the table.
 01/04/2011 05:58:12 PM · #6
Posted on Tue, Jan. 4, 2011

Slain Filipino official caught suspect on camera

The Associated Press

MANILA, Philippines - Philippine police investigating the New Year's Eve shooting death of a local councilman did not have to look further than the last photograph the victim took. That photo led to the arrest of two suspects.

The picture, taken outside the councilman's house in metropolitan Manila, clearly shows a man aiming his gun from behind the victim's smiling three-member family, seconds before he was shot.

The relatives , Councilman Reynaldo Dagsa's wife, daughter and mother-in-law , are seen standing beside the family's car, which has lights on, and the gunman, wearing a baseball cap, is bracing himself against the vehicle and pointing his gun at Dagsa. His face is slightly obscured by the gun.

The car was parked along an alley outside the Dagsas' house. In another corner of the photograph is a man police identified as the assassin's lookout.

Police said Tuesday that Dagsa was shot seconds after the photo was taken and died of his wounds by the time he reached a hospital. His family gave police the photo, which ran on the Philippine Daily Inquirer's front page Tuesday.

Caloocan city police chief Jude Santos said a man identified as the gunman in the picture was arrested Monday. His accomplice also was arrested in a separate raid in Manila the same day, Santos said.

He said the main suspect was a car thief who was out on bail and likely sought revenge against Dagsa for ordering his arrest last year.

Dagsa's wife and daughter, speaking to reporters at their home Tuesday, said the victim had asked them to wake him up before the stroke of midnight so he could join in the usually noisy New Year's street revelry that comes with lots of firecrackers.

The family members said they did not hear a gunshot because the firecrackers were exploding all around them. They only saw Dagsa falling to the ground after he was hit.

They said they rushed him to the hospital but it was too late.


01/04/2011 06:21:30 PM · #7
Pro or military double hand combat grip on the pistol. Evidence of training in accurate shooting.
 01/04/2011 06:28:48 PM · #8
Originally posted by hahn23:
Pro or military double hand combat grip on the pistol. Evidence of training in accurate shooting.


Although, the shooter was a bit random, hitting the victim in the chest and arm... Not exactly a hard-core special ops guy..

Message edited by author 2011-01-04 18:31:29.
 01/04/2011 07:35:50 PM · #9
this is crazy... but a lot of his face is covered... might be hard to prove if a good defence lawyer is involved.

edit: just noticed the guy in the background at right... part of the family? either way, he seems to be looking right at the alleged shooter...

Message edited by author 2011-01-04 19:37:19.
 01/04/2011 07:39:59 PM · #10
Originally posted by saintaugust:
...just noticed the guy in the background at right... part of the family? either way, he seems to be looking right at the alleged shooter...

The crappy Hamilton Spectator article I read mentioned a "lookout" as the second guy charged. I assume that's him, since his face isn't fuzzed out.
 01/04/2011 07:45:38 PM · #11
that is really sad... =( I feel very sorry for the mother-in-law, daughter and wife...
 01/04/2011 07:47:09 PM · #12
Originally posted by coryboehne:
Originally posted by hahn23:
Pro or military double hand combat grip on the pistol. Evidence of training in accurate shooting.


Although, the shooter was a bit random, hitting the victim in the chest and arm... Not exactly a hard-core special ops guy..


just means he wasn't a very *good* one.
 01/04/2011 08:14:56 PM · #13
Originally posted by karmat:
Originally posted by coryboehne:
Originally posted by hahn23:
Pro or military double hand combat grip on the pistol. Evidence of training in accurate shooting.


Although, the shooter was a bit random, hitting the victim in the chest and arm... Not exactly a hard-core special ops guy..


just means he wasn't a very *good* one.


Good enough.. :)

Message edited by author 2011-01-04 20:15:17.
 01/04/2011 08:36:55 PM · #14
You may be right but it looks like he is using the GI Joe Kung Fu grip to me.

Originally posted by hahn23:
Pro or military double hand combat grip on the pistol. Evidence of training in accurate shooting.
01/04/2011 08:58:47 PM · #15
Originally posted by kenskid:
You may be right but it looks like he is using the GI Joe Kung Fu grip to me.

Originally posted by hahn23:
Pro or military double hand combat grip on the pistol. Evidence of training in accurate shooting.


I'm guessing he learnt everything he knows from watching TV
 01/04/2011 09:04:03 PM · #16
That makes me wanna puke. It's like I am taking the picture.
 01/04/2011 09:04:27 PM · #17
this is really sad, specially that it happened on the family's new year celebration. i feel sorry for the photographer's family.

on the bright side, the wake isn't over yet. we still have time to send an actual posthumous blue ribbon. :)
 01/04/2011 09:20:08 PM · #18
Originally posted by hahn23:
Pro or military double hand combat grip on the pistol. Evidence of training in accurate shooting.

Or maybe he learned about the combat grip from the same web page that you did. :)

01/04/2011 10:06:35 PM · #19
Originally posted by Mick:
Originally posted by hahn23:
Pro or military double hand combat grip on the pistol. Evidence of training in accurate shooting.

Or maybe he learned about the combat grip from the same web page that you did. :)

It's a good grip, which reduces the kickback effect.
 01/04/2011 11:11:42 PM · #20
Originally posted by hahn23:
Originally posted by Mick:
Originally posted by hahn23:
Pro or military double hand combat grip on the pistol. Evidence of training in accurate shooting.

Or maybe he learned about the combat grip from the same web page that you did. :)

It's a good grip, which reduces the kickback effect.


Interestingly enough, despite the lack of overall marksmanship, the technique does indeed seem to have controlled muzzle lift quite well, with the bullets striking fairly level, one in the chest and one in the arm... Looks like it works quite well.
 01/05/2011 10:12:31 AM · #21
I'm glad he didn't use the sideways ganstah grip they use down here in New Orleans....everyone in the foreground would have been shot...including the shooter's helper.
The only survivor would have ben the target.

Originally posted by coryboehne:
Originally posted by hahn23:
Originally posted by Mick:
Originally posted by hahn23:
Pro or military double hand combat grip on the pistol. Evidence of training in accurate shooting.

Or maybe he learned about the combat grip from the same web page that you did. :)

It's a good grip, which reduces the kickback effect.


Interestingly enough, despite the lack of overall marksmanship, the technique does indeed seem to have controlled muzzle lift quite well, with the bullets striking fairly level, one in the chest and one in the arm... Looks like it works quite well.
01/05/2011 11:33:50 AM · #22
Weapon does not look like .45 cal to me. More like .22 cal. Very hard to tell with the
low quality photo available for our perusal. The eyes of the gunman tell all though. I see
death there. A perfect double-tap with the impacts with in a few inches would require
a complete suppression of emotion. The slightest fear, anger, whatever would cause a significant
change in grip pressure on the handgun. If it was a .45, constant repeatable firmness on the grip
is required for good grouping. I suspect the camera operator saw what was coming and tried to
escape. Would have been hard to hit a fast moving target. Were I there it would have only been
possible to hit me in the ass. :)
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