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12/13/2010 05:52:08 PM · #1
OK, I am going in blind here, but I recently read an article that stated that on Canon the `intermediate ISO settings` are actually software amplified derivatives of the base ISO level - thus using a `native` ISO like 100, 200, 400, 800 etc are will produce superior results to using the intermediate settings such as 160,250,320 etc.

Has anyone else ever seen this? - I plan to run a few tests this weekend but if it has any truth then I will be pretty shocked.
12/13/2010 06:05:19 PM · #2
First I heard of this one, but that doesn't mean it is not true.

There is a discussion and some links here: Linky

What is said makes sense, but it also says that the high-end Canons are not subject to the issue. Not having a high-end anything, I gather that I have been living with, and not noticing the issue.
12/13/2010 06:15:26 PM · #3
Originally posted by Simms:

Has anyone else ever seen this? - I plan to run a few tests this weekend but if it has any truth then I will be pretty shocked.


I seem to remember seeing some actual data that supported this idea... but the bottom line is, the results of the "intermediate" levels are never going to be worse than the next-highest "native" ISO, so does it really matter?
I have always used the "native" ISOs anyhow; I don't see a big benefit to an intermediate ISO. I guess the only way I'd use intermediate ISO would be in an auto-ISO situation, with both shutter speed and aperture locked. This isn't even possible with my camera, so I'm not so worried about it, LOL.
12/13/2010 06:21:07 PM · #4
Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by Simms:

Has anyone else ever seen this? - I plan to run a few tests this weekend but if it has any truth then I will be pretty shocked.


I seem to remember seeing some actual data that supported this idea... but the bottom line is, the results of the "intermediate" levels are never going to be worse than the next-highest "native" ISO, so does it really matter?
I have always used the "native" ISOs anyhow; I don't see a big benefit to an intermediate ISO. I guess the only way I'd use intermediate ISO would be in an auto-ISO situation, with both shutter speed and aperture locked. This isn't even possible with my camera, so I'm not so worried about it, LOL.


Maybe not from a noise perspective, but a lot of chat talks about the dynamic range being hit as a result.

"Higher end Canon models implement ISO gain via a two-stage amplification system; one amplifier for the "main" ISO's 100-200-400-800-1600 etc, and a second-stage amplification to implement the "intermediate" ISO's 125-250-500-1000 etc. and 160-320-640-1250 etc.....Lower end Canon models do not perform analog amplification for the intermediate ISO's, rather the intermediate ISO's are implemented by a multiplication of the raw data in software after quantization, and there is only a single stage amplification in hardware; strictly speaking, they do not have intermediate ISO amplification."
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