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11/16/2010 10:16:44 AM · #51 |
Originally posted by Luci11e:
just a thought....someone was discussing how many pages would be in said book
why does it have to be a photo per page? couldn't a couple photos be presented on a page? sure some photos you would want to have full page....others could even be 3 or 4 to a page....especially if were talking coffee table book
just a thought |
No one actually asked photo per page, I was thinking probably 2 to 4 photos per page depending on the numbers per sections (Flowers, macros, bugs, BW's, portraits, nudes... etc.). We can always come up with an idea, printing 2000 page could be little pricey :P |
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11/16/2010 11:31:16 AM · #52 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Originally posted by Luci11e:
just a thought....someone was discussing how many pages would be in said book
why does it have to be a photo per page? couldn't a couple photos be presented on a page? sure some photos you would want to have full page....others could even be 3 or 4 to a page....especially if were talking coffee table book
just a thought |
No one actually asked photo per page, I was thinking probably 2 to 4 photos per page depending on the numbers per sections (Flowers, macros, bugs, BW's, portraits, nudes... etc.). We can always come up with an idea, printing 2000 page could be little pricey :P |
exactly....and someone did mention it somewhere, that if we did the blue ribbon winner it would come to over X number of pages which is why I mentioned this
and I think we should go ahead and discuss that way if the answer from the powers that be is yes we will be one step ahead of the game
if the answer is no the only thing we've lost is time
which all of us waste away on here everyday ;-) |
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11/16/2010 12:32:39 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by Luci11e:
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Originally posted by Luci11e:
just a thought....someone was discussing how many pages would be in said book
why does it have to be a photo per page? couldn't a couple photos be presented on a page? sure some photos you would want to have full page....others could even be 3 or 4 to a page....especially if were talking coffee table book
just a thought |
No one actually asked photo per page, I was thinking probably 2 to 4 photos per page depending on the numbers per sections (Flowers, macros, bugs, BW's, portraits, nudes... etc.). We can always come up with an idea, printing 2000 page could be little pricey :P |
exactly....and someone did mention it somewhere, that if we did the blue ribbon winner it would come to over X number of pages which is why I mentioned this
and I think we should go ahead and discuss that way if the answer from the powers that be is yes we will be one step ahead of the game
if the answer is no the only thing we've lost is time
which all of us waste away on here everyday ;-) |
Even if the owners say no to this it can still fly. Just don't use the DPC name or logo. Images here are not owned by DPC so all you need to do is get authorization from the photographers. Call the book something like; Ten Years of Online Challenges or something.
I don't see why the owners would object to a book celebrating 10 years of DPC though. |
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11/16/2010 01:02:43 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Even if the owners say no to this it can still fly. Just don't use the DPC name or logo. Images here are not owned by DPC so all you need to do is get authorization from the photographers. |
On the other hand, if it is an official DPC project, permission has already been granted (through the site terms of use) to use/reproduce the pictures for any purpose which promotes the site.
Originally posted by DPC Terms of Use:
6.2 You hereby grant DPChallenge.com a nonexclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) right to exercise any rights you have in the Member Information and Media, and otherwise to make use of the Member Information and Media (including publishing, disseminating, broadcasting, manipulating, reproducing, editing, translating, performing, modifying, or displaying any part of the Member Information) and/or Media alone or as part of other work in any form, media, or technology whether now new known or hereafter developed, to enable DPChallenge.com to continue the specific operation or marketing of the site. This includes, but is certainly not limited to email "newsletters." |
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11/16/2010 01:06:31 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Jac:
Even if the owners say no to this it can still fly. Just don't use the DPC name or logo. Images here are not owned by DPC so all you need to do is get authorization from the photographers. |
On the other hand, if it is an official DPC project, permission has already been granted (through the site terms of use) to use/reproduce the pictures for any purpose which promotes the site.
Originally posted by DPC Terms of Use:
6.2 You hereby grant DPChallenge.com a nonexclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) right to exercise any rights you have in the Member Information and Media, and otherwise to make use of the Member Information and Media (including publishing, disseminating, broadcasting, manipulating, reproducing, editing, translating, performing, modifying, or displaying any part of the Member Information) and/or Media alone or as part of other work in any form, media, or technology whether now new known or hereafter developed, to enable DPChallenge.com to continue the specific operation or marketing of the site. This includes, but is certainly not limited to email "newsletters." |
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hmmm... I don't think I've ever read the small print.
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11/16/2010 01:08:58 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
On the other hand, if it is an official DPC project, permission has already been granted (through the site terms of use) to use/reproduce the pictures for any purpose which promotes the site. |
Yeah, but to do a decent book we need hi-res images, so one of the hurdles will be to reach back into peoples' files and get same... 640-pixel images aren't gonna cut it, that's at best what, 3 inches at printed resolution? maybe only 2...
R. |
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11/16/2010 01:19:02 PM · #57 |
I think a lot of the pages would end up having several 2x3" images plus text on them.
On a somewhat different tack, what about making a hardcopy and/or PDF version of the Tutorials and How-To articles? Those are practically already ready to format in a layout program ... |
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11/17/2010 03:17:02 PM · #58 |
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11/17/2010 04:21:36 PM · #59 |
Perhaps it might be prudent to see if  Ursula has any suggestions on how the 1x book came together? I know there are folks from here that regular there far more than I do, so perhaps there are some suggestions from them as well, not really sure how the whole book came together concept-wise. I don't think it's necessary for everybody to get their shorts in a bunch over this, though. Consider being included as an honor, instead of thinking of being excluded as a disgrace. In any case, it is a large undertaking, but surely we can be adults, yes? Maybe things will burn out, maybe they won't. Rallying folks to your side doesn't really help anything. Things always start out nebulous, the difference is just that the nebula here is online so it's open to everybody instead of it being over a beer and some food with friends.
Edited out of deference
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Cos you don't see it.
Do you not see , that this discussion, is being held between a very few, singular people.
You are upsetting people, mostly cos you all are discussing the idea with no game plan. You have no ground rules, no firm ideas, you all are tossing ideas around and all ready arguing,,sorry,, discussing,,, this amongst yourselves on how or what or who should be involved.
Do you see anyone else really anyone else contributing to this discussion. One or two people, that is it. No it is all being decided for them no one else is adding to this discussion.
How about, before you all decide what, who, what, when, things are going to be put in place, you get approval from the higher ups. How about having a real game plan first, how about you all answer some serious questions that I have posed first instead of just saying, I am a nay sayer, taking the piss, or whatever.
You all would not accept this in real life in business, you all would not come to the table with no plan, no logistical points, no future plan, HEY, an example,, what about the next 2 year winners, how do they fit in.
Do you not see, that not having something solid, can ruin goodwill and divide. I can tell you know, I got about 50 odd people that totally agree with some of the points I have raised, and they are from long timeers, heavy weighters, higher upers, brown ribboners, to everything in between.
This is a good idea, but you can't just willy nilly do this, come up with a game plan, come up with something,,,, where you allready have 'different' ideas on how to do this. Go about this business wise. Talk in private, set a plan, then present it.
Don't piss off people before the idea has all ready been put in motion.
Edited to add: How about once you have a game plan, everyone that wants to help out or organize it, throws their names in a hat, and the general popular pick out who ever is in the hat , who THEY want to to organize it, edit, choose as a jury. Instead of anyone assuming that they are best for the job.
I mean, everyone wants this to be fair and square don't they. So let the general population of DPC choose.
Just a thought, and my 2c. My opinion is neither here nor there, or course. |
Message edited by author 2010-11-18 02:32:12. |
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11/17/2010 05:28:02 PM · #60 |
Once upon a time there were two photographers
who wanted to share their interest in
photography and started to challenge
each other and created a site called .....
Our opening page intro. :)
Message edited by author 2010-11-17 18:07:39. |
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11/17/2010 06:20:03 PM · #61 |
| one way around the logistical problems is just not to have any pictures in the book. it could consist entirely of strikeslip forum threads. |
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11/17/2010 06:39:41 PM · #62 |
| That's another book. Put that with Art's creative edits and sell that to fund this book. |
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11/19/2010 01:03:28 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by bohemka:
That's another book. Put that with Art's creative edits and sell that to fund this book. |
True, if we just did an "Art" book -- we'd make a fortune! Godzilla sells much better than water drops.
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11/19/2010 01:30:31 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Originally posted by bohemka:
That's another book. Put that with Art's creative edits and sell that to fund this book. |
True, if we just did an "Art" book -- we'd make a fortune! Godzilla sells much better than water drops. |
im sure you'd have all sorts of trademark suits from skippy as well godzilla to deal with.
Of course, you could always market it as "satire".
Message edited by author 2010-11-19 13:30:43. |
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11/20/2010 01:06:55 AM · #65 |
I've seen some very nice collages of photos that various folks have posted - might be a way get to in more photos...
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04/05/2011 11:37:35 PM · #66 |
2012 is coming up very fast. I will just bump this idea to see if anyone else is interested in doing some gathering thang.
...if not, I will take the privilege and create the book for  Langman at the end of this year (if I am still alive).
I think 10th year anniversary deserves something like this. |
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04/06/2011 03:04:25 AM · #67 |
Did you every get a reply from Langdon giving this the go-ahead?
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09/13/2011 01:21:32 AM · #68 |
Originally posted by Sevlow:
Did you every get a reply from Langdon giving this the go-ahead? |
No reply from him about this. I would love to see a 10th year anniversary DPC book... I think like the other things suggested throughout the years, Langdon will miss that boat too... unless if he finds 10 extra lens-caps and prints DPC on them to give 10 Free Study winners in 2012!
...oh well, life goes on! |
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09/13/2011 04:29:18 AM · #69 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Originally posted by Sevlow:
Did you every get a reply from Langdon giving this the go-ahead? |
No reply from him about this. I would love to see a 10th year anniversary DPC book... I think like the other things suggested throughout the years, Langdon will miss that boat too... unless if he finds 10 extra lens-caps and prints DPC on them to give 10 Free Study winners in 2012!
...oh well, life goes on! |
I am certain if there was an official DPC book it would generate income for this site. I have no idea how busy or what free time Langdon has available. However it would be a shame if this opportunity were to be missed.
Langdon - how about a reply - yes or no ? I think  FocusPoint merits some kind of acknowledgement.
Mike
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09/13/2011 05:50:34 AM · #70 |
Birds and water drops are a part of dpc and could very well be included for that reason alone. Why not with accompanying notes (PDF version sounds good here) and options/links to tutorials by the photographers, that cost and bring in a little pocket money for the project.
Care and maintenance of domestic godzillas would be a must in the tutorial collection. |
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09/14/2011 02:14:42 AM · #71 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
We will have to find a few people for this project.
Here is the project steps should be IMO...
1-Get Langdon and Drew's permission, and ask them if they are planning anything similar
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I am curious, not sure if you can remember, but back when you created this thread did you actually type this with a straight face? |
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09/14/2011 05:27:32 AM · #72 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
10th year anniversary, we should publish a DPC book with photos gathered from the blue winners. |
Or, we could have a book with every photo ever submitted to DPC, regardless of its finishing position. To reduce printing costs we could make it a 'virtual book' that we can access via the internet. Then we could make it searchable by photographer, genre etc. Viewers may even be able to select their own favourite images or photographers to allow them to quickly view them whenever they wanted, from anywhere they could get internet access.
Then we could avoid the requirement for the selection process of an 'olde-worlde' book printed on paper [snigger] that would be perused once and then put on a shelf forever more.
And nobody would be upset. |
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