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11/03/2010 09:39:02 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by louinsd:
Last night before I went to bed I was at 7.78. It seems like the first night voters are always a little more critical and I took a beating.... I've never droped by a point before, but then again I've never had a score over 6.5 with over 10 votes before.
Votes: 51
Views: 136
Avg Vote: 6.8431
Comments: 2
What bites though is the following...
1. A score of 6.8 should get a ribbon in a contest with 42 contestants... I think I will be lucky to come in 5th place. Darn you early risers!!!!
2. I have a feeling that one of the ribon takers will be disqualified for not submitting a photo that was taken between 4:00 and 5:00. They will still occupy the front page for a couple of days.
What is great though... This will probably be a personal best!!! I guess it was worth being groggy all day. |
The first night voters seem to be the enthusiastically happy bunch, these days. I've had a number of challenges recently that started out uber-high and plummeted the next day. It does make you start thinking "ribbon, ribbon, ribbon!!!" when you see a very high score with 40 votes. But the one thing I've learned on this site is: you can't count on anything until it's over.
Message edited by author 2010-11-03 09:39:41.
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11/03/2010 09:39:20 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
some great images in there.
To me, the idea of the challenge is to capture the essence of 4-5 am, i voted hard against those who "just took a picture of something" at that time. |
well said. i haven't started voting yet, but this would serve as guide. |
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11/03/2010 09:45:13 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by louinsd:
2. I have a feeling that one of the ribon takers will be disqualified for not submitting a photo that was taken between 4:00 and 5:00. They will still occupy the front page for a couple of days. |
No matter what time the EXIF shows they wouldn't get DQ'd just on that. DQ's have never been given because someone did not stay within the challenge theme UNLESS it was specified in the description or rules that anything other than would be disqualified. |
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11/03/2010 09:46:49 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by SaraR:
Votes: 51
Views: 138
Avg Vote: X.4118
Comments: 8
Favorites: 3 :¬) |
I'm jealous... I've never been a favorite...
I just tried to decifer which one was yours and couldn't. You come up with some good black and whites, but none of the b+w's fit your stile. Of the color pictures, there was only 1 that impressed me would be worthy of 3 fav's... but it looks like a non-European scene. I can't wait to see which one is yours. |
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11/03/2010 09:48:19 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by ShutterPug:
Originally posted by louinsd:
2. I have a feeling that one of the ribon takers will be disqualified for not submitting a photo that was taken between 4:00 and 5:00. They will still occupy the front page for a couple of days. |
No matter what time the EXIF shows they wouldn't get DQ'd just on that. DQ's have never been given because someone did not stay within the challenge theme UNLESS it was specified in the description or rules that anything other than would be disqualified. |
It was/is... |
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11/03/2010 09:50:51 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by Cyberlandz:
Originally posted by mike_311:
some great images in there.
To me, the idea of the challenge is to capture the essence of 4-5 am, i voted hard against those who "just took a picture of something" at that time. |
well said. i haven't started voting yet, but this would serve as guide. |
if the image conveyed a sense of quiet simplicity before the chaos of the awoken world sets in, it scored very well with me.
there were a few that did a very good job of that. |
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11/03/2010 10:01:58 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by ShutterPug:
No matter what time the EXIF shows they wouldn't get DQ'd just on that. DQ's have never been given because someone did not stay within the challenge theme UNLESS it was specified in the description or rules that anything other than would be disqualified. |
Linda, there IS a special rule in place; if the time isn't correct, according to Exif, it's a DQ.
R. |
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11/03/2010 10:02:58 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
The first night voters seem to be the enthusiastically happy bunch, these days. I've had a number of challenges recently that started out uber-high and plummeted the next day. It does make you start thinking "ribbon, ribbon, ribbon!!!" when you see a very high score with 40 votes. But the one thing I've learned on this site is: you can't count on anything until it's over. |
Yeah, I've noticed that too... On the first night your score soars, but then plummets, usually mine though will rebound after the first night.
It makes you wonder about the people voting in different time zones...
1. Late night North Americans / Early morning Ausies give higher scores... (happy go lucky peeps)
2. Early morning EU people take things too seriously and give lower scores (I'm thinking of an English person who went public public shool, sipping a cup of tea, that lives in a museum like house, looking down their nose through tiny glasses)
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11/03/2010 10:13:26 AM · #34 |
| Snared in your own logic, Lou. Nighttime in the Americas is daytime here in old world. Rollover happens at 6 a.m. here, and when I arrive at work shortly afterward I surely can't be expected to work. I vote. And since it keeps me from work, I vote high. |
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11/03/2010 10:17:00 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by bohemka:
Snared in your own logic, Lou. Nighttime in the Americas is daytime here in old world. Rollover happens at 6 a.m. here, and when I arrive at work shortly afterward I surely can't be expected to work. I vote. And since it keeps me from work, I vote high. |
I guess I should have done research before I looked like a stupid American...
For the record, my comment was meant as a joke ( I really don't want anyone out there thinking I'm a complete butthead... just a partial butthead ;-) ) |
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11/03/2010 10:19:53 AM · #36 |
| Of course it was a joke. So was mine. Don't worry about coming off as a stupid American online. I'm over here doing it in person. |
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11/03/2010 10:53:31 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by Cyberlandz:
Originally posted by mike_311:
some great images in there.
To me, the idea of the challenge is to capture the essence of 4-5 am, i voted hard against those who "just took a picture of something" at that time. |
well said. i haven't started voting yet, but this would serve as guide. |
Yet, the challenge states -- "Set your alarm, and take a picture between 4:00 and 5:00 AM." They have met the challenge. I'm not sure that this voting schedule is fair. Especially the "voting hard". They met the challenge. Period. If you want to give extra points to someone because you like the shot, that's one thing, but to take away points when someone met the challenge doesn't seem quite right.
(my shot does convey the essence of 4-5 am, though, so this would actually benefit my entry. Maybe I should just shut up... Ok, ignore that everyone! :)
Message edited by author 2010-11-03 10:54:58.
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11/03/2010 11:19:01 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Originally posted by Cyberlandz:
Originally posted by mike_311:
some great images in there.
To me, the idea of the challenge is to capture the essence of 4-5 am, i voted hard against those who "just took a picture of something" at that time. |
well said. i haven't started voting yet, but this would serve as guide. |
Yet, the challenge states -- "Set your alarm, and take a picture between 4:00 and 5:00 AM." They have met the challenge. I'm not sure that this voting schedule is fair. Especially the "voting hard". They met the challenge. Period. If you want to give extra points to someone because you like the shot, that's one thing, but to take away points when someone met the challenge doesn't seem quite right.
(my shot does convey the essence of 4-5 am, though, so this would actually benefit my entry. Maybe I should just shut up... Ok, ignore that everyone! :) |
i hear what you are saying but just becuase you snapped your photo at the correct time doesn't mean anything to me. there is a reasoning behind the time selection and the photo needs to convey that to me. |
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11/03/2010 11:53:15 AM · #39 |
| i actually bothered to get up and shoot for my first entry ever. turns out my camera was set to PM instead of AM so i couldn't use it. Bummer. it wouldn't have done well any way. oh, well. |
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11/03/2010 12:12:00 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by vawendy:
Originally posted by Cyberlandz:
Originally posted by mike_311:
some great images in there.
To me, the idea of the challenge is to capture the essence of 4-5 am, i voted hard against those who "just took a picture of something" at that time. |
well said. i haven't started voting yet, but this would serve as guide. |
Yet, the challenge states -- "Set your alarm, and take a picture between 4:00 and 5:00 AM." They have met the challenge. I'm not sure that this voting schedule is fair. Especially the "voting hard". They met the challenge. Period. If you want to give extra points to someone because you like the shot, that's one thing, but to take away points when someone met the challenge doesn't seem quite right.
(my shot does convey the essence of 4-5 am, though, so this would actually benefit my entry. Maybe I should just shut up... Ok, ignore that everyone! :) |
i hear what you are saying but just becuase you snapped your photo at the correct time doesn't mean anything to me. there is a reasoning behind the time selection and the photo needs to convey that to me. |
Yeppers I hear that... My made me feel early in the morn votes did get extra + points for the "feel"
@ Amsterdamn Don't give up the boat dude!! This is a virtual photo judging, you get a Virtual Blue ribbon, it ain't real life! Take Photo's you enjoy, look around fidget with some post processing.. HAVE FUN WITH YOUR PHOTOS I've learned so much in the brief time I've been here about compositions and processing, For relaxation in the eve's now I sit n goof with photos instead of watching TV |
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11/03/2010 01:12:36 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Yet, the challenge states -- "Set your alarm, and take a picture between 4:00 and 5:00 AM." They have met the challenge. I'm not sure that this voting schedule is fair. Especially the "voting hard". They met the challenge. Period. If you want to give extra points to someone because you like the shot, that's one thing, but to take away points when someone met the challenge doesn't seem quite right.
(my shot does convey the essence of 4-5 am, though, so this would actually benefit my entry. Maybe I should just shut up... Ok, ignore that everyone! :) |
Originally posted by mike_311:
i hear what you are saying but just becuase you snapped your photo at the correct time doesn't mean anything to me. there is a reasoning behind the time selection and the photo needs to convey that to me. |
I'll stipulate that the entries are true to the letter as far as EXIF data, we all know this is an honest group, but I'm with  mike_311 that I want something to convey the 4-5 A.M. concept.
Maybe that's putting my own spin on it, BUT.......having been pinged before in challenges where the details were N/A for not having an image "In the Spirit of the Challenge".....that's how I voted.
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11/03/2010 01:54:08 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by vawendy:
Yet, the challenge states -- "Set your alarm, and take a picture between 4:00 and 5:00 AM." They have met the challenge. I'm not sure that this voting schedule is fair. Especially the "voting hard". They met the challenge. Period. If you want to give extra points to someone because you like the shot, that's one thing, but to take away points when someone met the challenge doesn't seem quite right.
(my shot does convey the essence of 4-5 am, though, so this would actually benefit my entry. Maybe I should just shut up... Ok, ignore that everyone! :) |
Originally posted by mike_311:
i hear what you are saying but just becuase you snapped your photo at the correct time doesn't mean anything to me. there is a reasoning behind the time selection and the photo needs to convey that to me. |
I'll stipulate that the entries are true to the letter as far as EXIF data, we all know this is an honest group, but I'm with mike_311 that I want something to convey the 4-5 A.M. concept.
Maybe that's putting my own spin on it, BUT.......having been pinged before in challenges where the details were N/A for not having an image "In the Spirit of the Challenge".....that's how I voted. |
I remember reading a thread (I' believe it was on here) that was a farce... The person in the thread was telling everyone how he was the best photographer in the world because he only used a low f-stop... all of his pictures came out blurry and bright. In his thread he was telling the secrets to his success. One of the lines was: Subject matter - yes. When I was reading it I was expecting him to go into some detail of his favorite blurry subject matter, but instead he just stated the truth that subject matters. Help me out here if you can find the thread....
DPChallenge is a democracy. We don't win anything here except for the ability to pat ourselves on the back (and we get some good advice from other shutter bugs). That being said, if the person who submitted the bug picture (ficticious example) is looking for a good score in this challenge, they are probably going to be disapointed. (I might think it was a nice picture as far as a bug pic goes, but being taken at 4:30 in the morning would not help it at all). If that person just wanted a critique on what he/she could have done better, then I hope they get it.
Message edited by author 2010-11-03 14:58:33. |
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11/03/2010 02:04:07 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by louinsd:
(I hope that I'm not out of line by mentioning a particular pic) |
I seriously recommend that you edit your post, keeping in mind the voting rules on this site:
quoted from the site rules:
You may not:
discuss any entry in the forums while voting is in progress.
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11/03/2010 03:06:14 PM · #44 |
| I'd like to weigh in for the late night aspect of this. Much talk here about the "early morning feel" all while many of those that have shot for this have talked about the stragglers from the previous night. To be honest I often hit the sack around 2, and I stayed up for this shot, I didn't wake up for it. If that hour means morning to you and you're hell bent on voting morning shots higher, cool, but consider all the possibilities that that hour includes. Or don't. I'm honestly not advocating voting any which way. Just a thought. |
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11/03/2010 03:14:18 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by bohemka:
I'd like to weigh in for the late night aspect of this. Much talk here about the "early morning feel" all while many of those that have shot for this have talked about the stragglers from the previous night. To be honest I often hit the sack around 2, and I stayed up for this shot, I didn't wake up for it. If that hour means morning to you and you're hell bent on voting morning shots higher, cool, but consider all the possibilities that that hour includes. Or don't. I'm honestly not advocating voting any which way. Just a thought. |
Most of the outside shots could have been taken anytime after sunset and before sunrise. For me personally I tried to come up with a concept that would be accentuated by the time. Haveing approached the challenge from that aspect, I'm going to hve a bias when I vote.
There were only 43 entries... Already 80 odd people have voted. Chances are by the time the voting is done, not everyone will have the same attitude as me. |
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11/03/2010 03:39:16 PM · #46 |
All the talk about traveling to take a shot made me feel the need to shoot outdoors as well. Hoping to impress the voters I guess.
Spent two days working on my first idea, but at the last second ditched it for a crappy outside shot.
Second guessed myself into using a shot I would vote a 3, verses the one I liked (probably worth a higher 3...)
such a waste of effort not to have entered it....
but thanks for your encouragement, though once again I am getting a lower score this week than last (higher than a 3 though - for now),
So far: The more effort, the lower my scores! If I enter next week, I may just leave the lens cap on.
Message edited by author 2010-11-03 15:40:10. |
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11/03/2010 03:42:54 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by bohemka:
I'd like to weigh in for the late night aspect of this. Much talk here about the "early morning feel" all while many of those that have shot for this have talked about the stragglers from the previous night. To be honest I often hit the sack around 2, and I stayed up for this shot, I didn't wake up for it. If that hour means morning to you and you're hell bent on voting morning shots higher, cool, but consider all the possibilities that that hour includes. Or don't. I'm honestly not advocating voting any which way. Just a thought. |
I don't necessarily think anyone's advocating an early morning aspect, per se; in one of my previous posts, I mentioned "the darkness before the light". I woke up at 3:00 A.M.for some odd reason, and just doinked around my apartment for a half hour, then took off to find something to convey the wee hours. With the exception of certain areas at the ends of the earth, 4:00-5:00 A.M. is either late, late night, or early, early morning. Either way, it's dark, forboding, and moody given half a chance. The gripe was with some of the shots that are easily duplicated without the time so much being a factor.
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11/03/2010 05:15:31 PM · #48 |
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11/03/2010 05:42:53 PM · #49 |
Stats: You have rated 43 of 43 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 5 images (12%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.0930.
Many great images in this challenge! Would have entered but I have to get up at 6 am for a very physical job...so getting up 2 hours earlier to shoot would have toasted me for the day. |
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11/03/2010 05:52:03 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by bohemka:
I'd like to weigh in for the late night aspect of this. Much talk here about the "early morning feel" all while many of those that have shot for this have talked about the stragglers from the previous night. To be honest I often hit the sack around 2, and I stayed up for this shot, I didn't wake up for it. If that hour means morning to you and you're hell bent on voting morning shots higher, cool, but consider all the possibilities that that hour includes. Or don't. I'm honestly not advocating voting any which way. Just a thought. |
I don't necessarily think anyone's advocating an early morning aspect, per se; in one of my previous posts, I mentioned "the darkness before the light". I woke up at 3:00 A.M.for some odd reason, and just doinked around my apartment for a half hour, then took off to find something to convey the wee hours. With the exception of certain areas at the ends of the earth, 4:00-5:00 A.M. is either late, late night, or early, early morning. Either way, it's dark, forboding, and moody given half a chance. The gripe was with some of the shots that are easily duplicated without the time so much being a factor. |
I agree and disagree... my pic was accentuated by the time. I've tried that exact spot before but was unhappy with it because of factors due to the time. I wish I could be more descriptive without giving it away. Shooting at this time did make me aware of a quality that I didn't realize before. |
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