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09/21/2010 11:48:35 AM · #1 |
OK, so here is the problem.
You are out shooting and you have no choice but to shoot with a bright light background. The person in the foreground is now all black.
You have no reflectors, no lights, just your camera and you can not change angles
I change my metering mode (EV things)
So do you guys have a different way of doing things?
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09/21/2010 11:57:32 AM · #2 |
I'd use my on-camera flash. If you spot expose for the face, the background really sucks.
So I'd expose for the background, which probably ends up with me underexposing the shot by -1-1.5EV, pop up the on-camera flash and set the flash compensation to +2/3EV or something like that.
But then again, I'm just learning flash, so I really don't know what I'm doing. :)
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09/21/2010 12:01:32 PM · #3 |
Just expose for the subject and let the BG blow to smithereens. That's what I do :-)
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09/21/2010 12:16:48 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Just expose for the subject and let the BG blow to smithereens. That's what I do :-)
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I would do this unless you have off camera flashes. I'm not sure I would use the on board flash for anyting but there are far more experienced photogs here. |
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09/21/2010 12:32:10 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by jminso:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Just expose for the subject and let the BG blow to smithereens. That's what I do :-)
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I would do this unless you have off camera flashes. I'm not sure I would use the on board flash for anyting but there are far more experienced photogs here. |
You might be surprised how effective the on board flash is ... you could set to full manual and balance the on board flash to get the subject exposed correctly and maybe dull down the blown out background a little |
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09/21/2010 03:47:16 PM · #6 |
| Arrrr but what if the subject is at the end of the 200 lens, what then? |
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09/21/2010 04:38:34 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Arrrr but what if the subject is at the end of the 200 lens, what then? |
580ex or off camera flash remotely triggered or screw the back ground and just spot meter on the face. |
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09/21/2010 05:00:18 PM · #8 |
bracket your exposures then HDR 'em.
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09/21/2010 05:10:36 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by pointandshoot:
bracket your exposures then HDR 'em. |
I was thinking just set the person on fire but your idea might be better.
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09/21/2010 05:14:31 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by pointandshoot:
bracket your exposures then HDR 'em. |
I was thinking just set the person on fire but your idea might be better. |
I assumed the subject was a cat... otherwise, I would have offered your suggestion.
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09/21/2010 06:06:35 PM · #11 |
actaully I was thinking of sports photography. so no HDR
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09/21/2010 07:53:35 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
actaully I was thinking of sports photography. so no HDR |
Pseudo-HDR from a single RAW? |
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09/21/2010 08:48:49 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
actaully I was thinking of sports photography. so no HDR |
Pseudo-HDR from a single RAW? |
If the BG is THAT bright (and it probably is, or she wouldn't be seeking solutions) then it's outside the range of potential pseudo-HDR help.
Frankly, from my perspective, in sports photography, as long as the action's frozen and the main subjects are properly exposed, I don't much care what's happening with the BG. But that's just me...
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09/21/2010 09:00:30 PM · #14 |
okay dug around my shots and this is the best i can come up with for an example. Granted it is PP'd to heck,,, but the idea is the same
a moving subject, a bright background, person pretty much has no details.  |
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09/21/2010 09:17:39 PM · #15 |
| Hmm...if its a bright sunny day, meter off the blue sky instead of the subject. The setting should put you at a mid range for the scene. Shoot RAW and process later. |
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09/21/2010 09:36:28 PM · #16 |
Sometimes you have no choice. Preacher says no flash in the chapel, noon wedding with the bride walking in with huge bright white doors behind her when the door opens. You meter in in manual ahead of time and expose for the bride and let the background blow.
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09/21/2010 09:48:15 PM · #17 |
See,,,,, look at all these ideas and thoughts. We are learning, without thinking we are learning!
Bloody brilliant! |
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09/21/2010 11:36:57 PM · #18 |
You could always take some shots of just the background at angles you plan to shoot at when the action starts and then use them later If needed to fix shots.
Message edited by author 2010-09-21 23:40:04.
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09/22/2010 12:02:05 AM · #19 |
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09/22/2010 12:15:28 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by yanko:
You could always take some shots of just the background at angles you plan to shoot at when the action starts and then use them later If needed to fix shots. |
Would almost never work out right.
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09/22/2010 12:26:20 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by yanko:
You could always take some shots of just the background at angles you plan to shoot at when the action starts and then use them later If needed to fix shots. |
Would almost never work out right. |
Well it would depend on what your shooting exactly and how many images you'd have to fix but certainly possible and if it's just the sky neeeding to be fixed then that wouldn't be hard at all.
ETA: Of course I could be forgetting that not everyone has ninja masking/cloning/transforming skills. ;)
Message edited by author 2010-09-22 00:28:55.
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09/22/2010 12:28:16 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by yanko:
You could always take some shots of just the background at angles you plan to shoot at when the action starts and then use them later If needed to fix shots. |
Would almost never work out right. |
Well it would depend on what your shooting exactly and how many images you'd have to fix but certainly possible and if it's just the sky that needs fixing then that wouldn't be that hard at all. |
It does depend on how ya do it... if it's something set up... sure... you can probably pull it off... but something like a wedding would never work.
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09/22/2010 12:31:35 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by yanko:
You could always take some shots of just the background at angles you plan to shoot at when the action starts and then use them later If needed to fix shots. |
Would almost never work out right. |
Well it would depend on what your shooting exactly and how many images you'd have to fix but certainly possible and if it's just the sky that needs fixing then that wouldn't be that hard at all. |
It does depend on how ya do it... if it's something set up... sure... you can probably pull it off... but something like a wedding would never work. |
Juliet said it was sports photography and the subject would be at the end of a 200mm lens.
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09/22/2010 12:32:36 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Juliet said it was sports photography and the subject would be at the end of a 200mm lens. |
Yeah, that would be difficult.
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09/22/2010 12:35:46 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by yanko:
Juliet said it was sports photography and the subject would be at the end of a 200mm lens. |
Yeah, that would be difficult. |
Not really. I've done it before but like I said if you have to do it to a lot of images then it probably isn't worth the time.
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