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06/20/2004 01:22:02 PM · #1 |
Can I use the Photoshop's "Photo Filter" with pictures for Challenges?
Thank You! |
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06/20/2004 02:23:42 PM · #2 |
| No, not in the Basic Editing challenges. |
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06/20/2004 07:32:29 PM · #3 |
Are you sure about this Eddy? (apologies if I've missed any previous discusion on the subject). I thought adjustment layers, applied to the whole image, were okay under the basic rules?
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06/20/2004 07:41:36 PM · #4 |
I'm with Bod on this - I think it's legally OK by the current rules. However, it raises issues because the Photo Filter is the equivalent of a layer of solid colour overlaying the layer beneath with the 'Color' blend mode.
It therefore means that those with Photoshop CS have the considerable advantage in many ways over those with lesser applications. |
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06/20/2004 08:04:06 PM · #5 |
From the basic editing rules..
"However, no effects filters may be applied to your image, with the exception of Noise and Gaussian blur, the two of which are allowed."
That said, I think the same effect can be achieved legally using curves and/or hue/saturation. Channel Mixer might also be valuable in this regard.
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06/20/2004 08:11:32 PM · #6 |
But it's not an effects filter. It's sat in the adjustments menu, right next to curves, hue/saturation and the channel mixer!
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06/20/2004 08:15:06 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by Imagineer:
I'm with Bod on this - I think it's legally OK by the current rules. However, it raises issues because the Photo Filter is the equivalent of a layer of solid colour overlaying the layer beneath with the 'Color' blend mode.
It therefore means that those with Photoshop CS have the considerable advantage in many ways over those with lesser applications. |
Don't know exactly what the 'Photo Filter' is, but if it's the equivalent of a layer in color blend mode, then it's illegal in a basic challenge. Adjustment layers are allowed, but ONLY in normal mode. |
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06/20/2004 08:51:22 PM · #8 |
I think we need to have an SC discussion and come up with an official ruling on this.
The reason I initially said "no" was because I quickly looked at the filter, and thought it was doing the equivalent of "non-Normal mode" blending. But perhaps since it isn't an "effects filter", but instead simulates the use of various colored filters, maybe it should be "legal".
We'll discuss it and come up with a decision; in the mean time, probably best to avoid it just to be on the safe side. |
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06/20/2004 09:28:23 PM · #9 |
After playing around with the "Photo Filter" a bit, it seems that it is very similar, but not identical, to applying a second layer of the filter color, with "color" selected as the blending mode.
The difference seems to be in the ability of the photo filter to hold luminosity constant.
I know that this is located under adjustments, but it sure acts like an effects filter. On the other hand, hue/sat and channel mixer are legal, and they can act like effects filters just as well.
I may be unaware of previous SC discussion on ths, so I will ask. The conservative thing to do is not to use it unless it is specifically deemed OK.
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06/21/2004 02:53:04 AM · #10 |
Thanks guys.
To me it is legal under the current wording of the rules, no matter what it acts like or is the equivalent of. Good luck sorting this one out ; )
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06/21/2004 03:32:38 AM · #11 |
| Many of the filters and adjustments in Photoshop are simply different methods of arriving at the same result. The SC ruling is definitely necessary since one can achieve the exact same result as Photo Filter with the Color Balance, Curves, Channel Mixer and Hue/Sat adjustments. |
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06/21/2004 11:12:01 AM · #12 |
| I recently found "photo filter" in the Adjustments section of PS CS. In my version at least, it defaults to a 25% #85 warming filter. So nearly all my stuff to date has had this enhancement. (Now I know where the yellow came from...) |
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