Really stupid basic editing question:

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

06/08/2010 04:40:49 PM · #1

I know we can rotate in basic, can we flip the image?

(told you it was a stupid question :)

Cory

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

06/08/2010 04:42:46 PM · #2

Originally posted by vawendy:

I know we can rotate in basic, can we flip the image?

(told you it was a stupid question :)

Since this affects the entire image equally, I would guess that it must be allowed..

As always... SC clarification would be good.

Citadel

Nikon D7500

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

06/08/2010 04:43:41 PM · #3

...or is it considered the same as skewing?

"You may not
distort or stretch your image in any way."

I'm curious too.

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

06/08/2010 04:46:25 PM · #4

I don't think you can flip (assuming you mean produce a mirror-image).

Especially in the case of things like text, flipping would result in a distorted image.

But who knows?

The rules really ought to be annotated.

Cory

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

06/08/2010 04:46:29 PM · #5

Originally posted by Citadel:

...or is it considered the same as skewing?

"You may not
distort or stretch your image in any way."

I'm curious too.

It wouldn't really change the relationships within the image, and would essentially preserve how the viewer would describe the photo.. So, I'm still guessing it would be allowed..

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

06/08/2010 04:48:30 PM · #6

Yes, you can flip in Basic. And if you get DQ'd for it, tell them "but, but, but Art said it was ok"

paynekj

Pentax K10D

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

06/08/2010 04:53:17 PM · #7

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Yes, you can flip in Basic. And if you get DQ'd for it, tell them "but, but, but Art said it was ok"

and you could also blame

Bear_Music who answered the same way less than a month ago //www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=999779&highlight=flip

Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux M Aspherical MF - Black

06/08/2010 04:59:15 PM · #8

Originally posted by paynekj:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Yes, you can flip in Basic. And if you get DQ'd for it, tell them "but, but, but Art said it was ok"

and you could also blame Bear_Music who answered the same way less than a month ago //www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=999779&highlight=flip

But that was only about cropping rotating and resizing -- flipping is more drastic.

scarbrd

Leica M10

06/08/2010 05:00:25 PM · #9

you can flip, rotate, and crop in Basic.

Louis

Nikon D800

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.8D

06/08/2010 05:01:12 PM · #10

Yes, you can flip. This one was flipped, and it was validated.

06/08/2010 05:04:30 PM · #11

Great!! Thanks all!

06/08/2010 05:06:01 PM · #12

Originally posted by Louis:

Yes, you can flip. This one was flipped, and it was validated.

Yeah, but... that was in 2006. The current Basic Editing rules are from November 2009. They also explicitly say you can crop, rotate, and resize, but there is no mention of flipping.

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

06/08/2010 05:08:16 PM · #13

Originally posted by mycelium:

Originally posted by Louis:
Yes, you can flip. This one was flipped, and it was validated.

Yeah, but... that was in 2006. The current Basic Editing rules are from November 2009. They also explicitly say you can crop, rotate, and resize, but there is no mention of flipping.

I feel a little better since you get to flipping by selecting rotate in photoshop. Although that probably doesn't mean anything.

samchad

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

06/08/2010 05:37:18 PM · #14

Flipping is the same as rotating, just about a different axis!!

Manic

DJI Mini 3 Pro

Kamlan 28mm F1.4 MF for APS-C

06/08/2010 05:40:21 PM · #15

Yes, flipping an image via either the vertical or horizontal axis is perfectly OK in Basic (as long as it's the entire image, of course).

06/08/2010 05:40:48 PM · #16

Originally posted by samchad:

Flipping is the same as rotating, just about a different axis!!

No... e.g.,:

Rotate "|\|" and you get "|\|".

Flip (mirror) "|\|" and you get "|/|".

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

06/08/2010 05:41:29 PM · #17

Originally posted by Manic:

Yes, flipping an image via either the vertical or horizontal axis is perfectly OK in Basic (as long as it's the entire image, of course).

Any chance we could amend the rules to say so explicitly?

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

06/08/2010 05:42:22 PM · #18

Originally posted by samchad:

Flip (mirror) "|\|" and you get "|/|".

|/| <---this image has been validated.

BrennanOB

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

06/08/2010 05:42:28 PM · #19

Skewing pulls some pixels more than others, flipping effects all the pixels all the same way. If rotating is legal (and it is) then flipping in any direction has to be.

Message edited by author 2010-06-08 17:43:56.

Kamlan 28mm F1.4 MF for APS-C

06/08/2010 05:44:04 PM · #20

^_^

Message edited by author 2010-06-08 17:44:28.

Manic

DJI Mini 3 Pro

06/08/2010 06:00:21 PM · #21

Originally posted by mycelium:

Originally posted by Manic:
Yes, flipping an image via either the vertical or horizontal axis is perfectly OK in Basic (as long as it's the entire image, of course).

Any chance we could amend the rules to say so explicitly?

It's sort of implied by the "You May ... crop, rotate and resize your entry." section, but I can see that it's not the most obvious thing. I'll see what we can do...