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06/19/2004 10:55:19 AM · #26 |
Apple's iPhoto is fantastic to organize and then backup on DVD. You can also use it to run slide shows of different albums, and even have a hardcover book made out of your photos. Love it!
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06/19/2004 11:34:48 AM · #27 |
I have been playing with the evaluation version of Imatch, and when it comes to EXIF data for my NEF files (Nikon's RAW files), I can't find a match for ISO. Anyone know anything about this?
-Danielle
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06/19/2004 11:52:19 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by dccloss:
I have been playing with the evaluation version of Imatch, and when it comes to EXIF data for my NEF files (Nikon's RAW files), I can't find a match for ISO. Anyone know anything about this? |
I remember seeing something about this in another thread ... one second ... try here:
//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=90895&highlight=nikon%20iso
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06/19/2004 12:03:01 PM · #29 |
Thanks for the link! Unfortunately, the information that I found there did not fix my problem. But, maybe someone there can help me!
-Danielle
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06/19/2004 12:18:40 PM · #30 |
Well, I have kind of a workaround, so I'm all set, thanks for your help! But, if anyone has any other solutions to photo organization, I am open to ideas!
-Danielle
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06/19/2004 12:35:09 PM · #31 |
I keep all my source files on two 120GB IDE drives connected to a RAID controller (RAID 0) to prevent loss. Right now the files are only organized by date, but there's only 700 so far.
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06/19/2004 06:27:35 PM · #32 |
Hey, when I import the photos into iView, they do not automatically rotate. (I have a D70, which has an orientation sensor, so that I don't have to rotate the files) Is there a setting that I can change to force them to autorotate, or am I just stuck with it?
-Danielle
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
Said it before and I will say it again...iView.
And it available for Windows now!!
keywords, categories, people, places, things, folders, RAW compatible, etc. Makes contact sheets, customizable webpages, backup.....JJUST AWESOME!!
I use the script to name everything by date and then add keywords and set up the different catalogs within it. |
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06/20/2004 08:58:55 AM · #33 |
| I am not sure on that one. Are you on iView 2.5? I will take a good look later (just got off my 13 hour shift in the ER, and me tired). I can't remember if it keeps it or not. Using Mac or WIndows? Can always write a script to do that too. |
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06/20/2004 09:07:37 AM · #34 |
- I start a new folder every month. I put a number in front of it to make sure it's always in chronoligical order. ie. 18 May 2004, 19 June 2004
- I create a new folder everytime I upload pics. I put the date, ie. June 05 2004, then a brief description, ie. June 05 2004 - Flowers behind house
That way I know exactly when to go look. If I remember sometimes at the end of June I took some photos of daisies, I can easily find it.
I don't have a bunch of directories with different categories. That would bring no value for my specific needs. I keep copies of files of prints I have made.
I back up my new pics at the end of each month on CDs. However I have two hard drives on my PC mirroring my image folder. The back up of new files is done automatically with a little Freeware program I found on the Web called Cobian Backup.
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06/20/2004 10:39:31 AM · #35 |
Tracy,
iView 2.5.1, on Windows XP. Do you have this problem? What are you running it on? You have a D70 also, so I thought that maybe you would be having the same problem. How is the orientation stored? Do you know? Is it in the Exif data? One of the reasons that I bought the D70 is so that I would not have to turn the photos, I spent many hours turning them with a batch action in ps, and I don't want to do that anymore! Thanks for any help that you can give me.
-Danielle
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
I am not sure on that one. Are you on iView 2.5? I will take a good look later (just got off my 13 hour shift in the ER, and me tired). I can't remember if it keeps it or not. Using Mac or WIndows? Can always write a script to do that too. |
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06/20/2004 11:11:41 AM · #36 |
I use a different camera (Canon Digital Rebel) and a different program (Adobe Photoshop Album), but have the same problem if I load RAW (the Canon equivalent to NEF) files. Rotation of RAW files is done by the program that converts it to TIFF or JPEG, not by the camera and not by Album. The same could be true for Nikon NEF files and iView, although I've never used either one so can't say for sure.
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06/20/2004 06:01:24 PM · #37 |
Rick,
Does the Rebel have an orientation sensor? The D70 does have one to correct the orientation automatically. Some of the software that I have tried so far recognizes the orientation, and some does not. This is why I think that the information may be stored in the EXIF data, although I do not know for sure. When I use IMatch, it does recognized the orientation change, and therefore has the images in the correct orientation, without me have to do anything. I have not been converting my files to another format, and I plan to store them in this original format (NEF), so that I may have more flexibility to tweak them later. Most of the software that I have checked out will read my NEF files with no problem, it is just a matter of the orientation; some will do it, some won't. I hope that I have explained my situation clearly enough, so that you understand where I am coming from. Thanks!
-Danielle
Originally posted by dr rick:
I use a different camera (Canon Digital Rebel) and a different program (Adobe Photoshop Album), but have the same problem if I load RAW (the Canon equivalent to NEF) files. Rotation of RAW files is done by the program that converts it to TIFF or JPEG, not by the camera and not by Album. The same could be true for Nikon NEF files and iView, although I've never used either one so can't say for sure. |
Message edited by author 2004-06-20 18:01:39.
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06/20/2004 06:17:03 PM · #38 |
I just shot a few fine jpg and dropped them straight off the card to iView and the orientation was correct, but with the NEF file it did not (straight off the card). This may be due to the fact that it is expected that you are using some program to edit that image.
I catalog all my originals immediately into iView and could see a problem with orientation with the RAW file, but I just go through and select those and hit the little rotate button and save the catalog then to disk.
There is something somewhere in the EXIF data by the way (just not sure where),
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06/20/2004 06:19:23 PM · #39 |
BTW, Rick, I noticed that the Rebel does have an orientation sensor...
-Danielle
Originally posted by dccloss:
Rick,
Does the Rebel have an orientation sensor? The D70 does have one to correct the orientation automatically. Some of the software that I have tried so far recognizes the orientation, and some does not. This is why I think that the information may be stored in the EXIF data, although I do not know for sure. When I use IMatch, it does recognized the orientation change, and therefore has the images in the correct orientation, without me have to do anything. I have not been converting my files to another format, and I plan to store them in this original format (NEF), so that I may have more flexibility to tweak them later. Most of the software that I have checked out will read my NEF files with no problem, it is just a matter of the orientation; some will do it, some won't. I hope that I have explained my situation clearly enough, so that you understand where I am coming from. Thanks!
-Danielle
Originally posted by dr rick:
I use a different camera (Canon Digital Rebel) and a different program (Adobe Photoshop Album), but have the same problem if I load RAW (the Canon equivalent to NEF) files. Rotation of RAW files is done by the program that converts it to TIFF or JPEG, not by the camera and not by Album. The same could be true for Nikon NEF files and iView, although I've never used either one so can't say for sure. |
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06/20/2004 06:28:02 PM · #40 |
Tracy,
But, IMatch does recognize this orientation, so I may be going with that. Thanks for your help (and the confirmation with the EXIF data), though!
-Danielle
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
I just shot a few fine jpg and dropped them straight off the card to iView and the orientation was correct, but with the NEF file it did not (straight off the card). This may be due to the fact that it is expected that you are using some program to edit that image.
I catalog all my originals immediately into iView and could see a problem with orientation with the RAW file, but I just go through and select those and hit the little rotate button and save the catalog then to disk.
There is something somewhere in the EXIF data by the way (just not sure where), |
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06/20/2004 06:51:05 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by dr rick:
What I really want is a photo organizer that allows me to keep different versions of a photo (e.g., RAW from the camera, edit version including all editing layers, print-resolution TIFF, and web-display JPEG) under one thumbnail in the tool. But I haven't seen anything that does this. Has anyone else? |
I haven't seen anything like that yet, but I'm looking for the same thing. It bothers me to have three different versions of the same image in the catalog, and having to tag each one by hand. It's the only thing that I still haven't managed to solve working with Photoshop Album, so I'd love to hear if there's software out there that does this. |
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11/13/2004 01:18:57 AM · #42 |
Originally posted by nicoledb:
Originally posted by dr rick:
What I really want is a photo organizer that allows me to keep different versions of a photo (e.g., RAW from the camera, edit version including all editing layers, print-resolution TIFF, and web-display JPEG) under one thumbnail in the tool. But I haven't seen anything that does this. Has anyone else? |
I haven't seen anything like that yet, but I'm looking for the same thing. It bothers me to have three different versions of the same image in the catalog, and having to tag each one by hand. It's the only thing that I still haven't managed to solve working with Photoshop Album, so I'd love to hear if there's software out there that does this. |
Photoshop Elements 3 has this feature! Adobe has basically rolled Elements and Album into one package and added some useful features in this latest version. You can combine multiple photos into a "stack", which shows up as one thumbnail in the organizer. A related feature is "version sets" which do the same for multiple versions of a photo (if you use Elements to make the different versions).
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11/13/2004 10:54:08 AM · #43 |
I try to use a somewhat simplified process. I feel if I start changing the original file name I will never be able to track it back to the shoot date.
As is stands right now I am using the Archive Creator as suggested by Gordon. I think it lacks a few improvements but it works for me now. I like the fact that I can keep a thumbnail dir of all the CD's/DVD's on my HD and quickly find the file I need.
I have not gotten into Stock photography yet but I have been thinking about it. I think I will keep the same naming convention and just copy the files to the stock site dir (istock.dir).
My directory names are all by camera and shoot/date:
Main Dir -Canon EOS 10D
Sub Dir --White Rock Lake 11-13-04
Sub Dir ---White Rock Lake Shoot II (If the same day)
Main - Prints Sale (Prints for sale)
Sub Dir --White Rock Lake 11-13-04
Main Dir -Olympus
Sub Dir --White Rock Lake 11-03-04
I keep all the originals and etc in this dir.
I mark the original files read only.
For naming I use variations of the original camera file:
CRW_9740.crw - Original Canon RAW
CRW_9740.tif - Working .tif file
CRW_9740_RJ.jpg - RAW JPG processed by Canon Software
I do this for every raw file processed using the camera settings.
This allows me to view it and see what it needs or if it is to be deleted.
CRW_9740_PS.jpg - RAW JPG procesed in Photoshop CS
CRW_9740-RJ-01.jpg - RAW JPG with first processing
CRW_9740-RJ-02.jpg - RAW JPG with second round if needed
CRW_9740-RJ-01W.jpg - Processed for web display (Generally 148k)
CRW_9740-RJ-01WS.jpg - Processed for web display (Less than 148k )
CRW_9740-RJ-01-CR1.jpg - A crop of the first round if need.
Generally if I do various crops I add the format:
CRW_9740-RJ-01-CR1-8x10.jpg
CRW_9740-RJ-01-CR1-8x12.jpg
I use Photoshop CS to keep a detailed work history with each file.
If the file is printed for sale I add the name to the price sticker this way I can track every file back to the original. I generally keep copies of the prints for sale in a seperate dir as noted above.
If I modify the file after copying it I generally add something like a or b to the end.
CRW_9740-RJ-01-CR18x10a.jpg
$25.00
When I use Windows Explorer to view the directories I use "Sort by name" this way all variations show in sequence. This way if I delete a file I can delete all variations (.crw, ..RJ.jpg, ..RJ-01.tif) at the same time.
I have been fine tuning as I go along. I have been searching for a better image management package like many others but right now the packages I have seem to be working fine. I really want to keep the number of software packages to a minimum.
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11/13/2004 01:03:32 PM · #44 |
Simplified? I am confused. Oh well..it works for you and that is what counts.
I go with iView for cataloging. Filed by date/time taken (taken from EXIF data per iView-ie: 2004-11-12-11-02-35) onto their own Edited hard drive. Catalog folder/then by year/then filed as 11 Misc (Month and descriptivve word). That is the edited stuff. All kept in the same place. Have other catalogs through iView for Prints, Family, Portraits and Originals (which are off on DVD's ASAP) which only have to access the one Hard Drive and files. Originals are on their own partition while editing.
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