New Picture... Your opinon please

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

11/08/2004 01:08:35 AM · #1

Here is picture #2 from my shooting, Tell me what do you think!

Message edited by author 2004-11-08 11:15:12.

mrsamsa

Nikon D300s

11/08/2004 01:09:57 AM · #2

like the angle cool shot

riotspyne

Nikon D80

11/08/2004 01:20:22 AM · #3

i dont know if it is just me but it looks like her breasts fell to the side but her top is still in place, it is just kinda funny

nice pic though, to me the eyes are the focal point and they are beautiful..i like the angle but i think if you had just brought the camera up a tiny bit to get a little more of the eyes..,it would be even better...the composition is nice how it fades to black at the top adding some nice details...but this is all really just personal preference i think...is she on a bed? if so it makes me wonder if it is professional lighting..because i like the lighting..and if not i was wondering how you achieved it

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RobCoursey

Nikon D100

11/08/2004 01:26:57 AM · #4

I like the shot. The hands look a bit forced...like she was instructed on where to place them possibly for symmetry sake.

Good shot :)

Tamron AF 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di LD Aspherical IF for Canon

11/08/2004 01:36:36 AM · #5

OK for the breast... it spill a little, i will retouch it for her portfolio... i think the picture bring so much attention to her eye... the breast will be second... will be retouched anyway...

For the light... the only shot i have done with a window in my back... pretty slow shot... model still iso 200 i think... will show you the other model that show up in the same set later... very nice chick too !....

SDW

Canon EOS-60D

11/08/2004 01:37:27 AM · #6

Ok Iâ��m going to try to give you my opinion on your photo. Please keep in mind itâ��s an amateur opinion but it is what my eyes see.
1. Very lovely model with beautiful eyes and nice smile even from this angle.
2. Lighting is soft and works well. Natural skin tones and colors look great.
3. I believe the picture was taken with the model lying on a bed by the impressions.
4. There are three things that distract me. 1. The light in her pupils, you may want to us PS to fix that. 2. The bedding design does not go with photo imo. I think a solid color would of worked better. 3. Finally and probably the most distracting are the lines in her forehead. I know it was caused by her having to look up. If youâ��re sitting at your computer chair now, without lifting your head, look towards the ceiling you will find your forehead tightens and wrinkles. I would have her to tilt her head a little more so she would not have to look up at the camera at an angle that causes the wrinkles. But you can use PS to fix this as well.

Over all I like the picture and think its good.

11/08/2004 01:39:17 AM · #7

Here is the other model.... with a little more hair this one... but keep the opinion on the fist please !...

11/08/2004 01:44:01 AM · #8

Originally posted by SDW65:

Finally and probably the most distracting are the lines in her forehead. I know it was caused by her having to look up. If youâ��re sitting at your computer chair now, without lifting your head, look towards the ceiling you will find your forehead tightens and wrinkles. I would have her to tilt her head a little more so she would not have to look up at the camera at an angle that causes the wrinkles. But you can use PS to fix this as well.

I am very PS skillfull (more that 10 years) but not really interes to touch up skin and wrinkle to the point to make a 60 years old look like barbie...

The point is, when to stop improving a picture.... I will put another tread for that, but you can give me you two cents... 0.02$ x 1000 = 20$... not too bad :-)

riotspyne

Nikon D80

11/08/2004 01:52:25 AM · #9

cute dog and as for the pattern on the bed, i liked it.

Sigma 100-300mm f/4.0 EX IF HSM for Nikon

11/08/2004 11:14:26 AM · #10

For the bed blanket, i dont have the choice, it is that... it is not a studio i a friend house !

Just for your info... here is the #1 picture... I will use it for myself (selfpromo)

But still want your opinion on this one please (for her portfolio)

Stay tuned for mode soon

MrYu

Nikon D70

11/08/2004 01:50:57 PM · #11

To me, human faces upside-down is almost the least appealing thing ever. I also agree about the wrinkles, they don't make a good impression here... Would probably selectively sharpen the eyes or make the rest of the face softer.

And the tan lines make this look more like a home snapshot than a professional image. I hear you can use toning cream to cover those.

Nusbaum

Fujifilm X-T1

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

11/08/2004 02:53:40 PM · #12

I tend to like shallow depth of field, but in this case I think I would like to have more in focus. The eyes are the primary focus, but the shoulder and chest are still a major elements of the composition and should be in focus. (opinion only of course)

Nusbaum

Fujifilm X-T1

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

11/08/2004 02:54:00 PM · #13

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GoldBerry

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

11/08/2004 03:02:46 PM · #14

um, I don't think her breasts look flattering in that shot..probably a bad bra choice. And she's doing what most people do when looking up: tensing her forehead. Wrinkling her forehead gives the impression that she's uncomfortable and tense..

Still, nice shots overall, great model :-)

hardwaybets

Apple iPhone 11 Pro

11/08/2004 03:06:05 PM · #15

IMHO I gotta agree with Yurasocolov. I had a hard time getting to breast issue because my eyes were trying to reorient her face. The upside down face is distracting--particularly when you have a beautiful model whose eyes would stand out in any pose.

David.C

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

11/09/2004 04:49:30 AM · #16

Originally posted by menardmam:

Here is picture #2 from my shooting, Tell me what do you think!

As I see it there are mainly three aspects of the image I disagree with. Of these the first, the angle of the camera, is the most important since it emphasises the other two items. The other two items are her arms and her face, but I will get to them in a moment.

The camera angle is low and nearly lined up with her head and body. Although the image is slightly tilted counter-clockwise, this creates a very static image that is lacking in emotive content. As the eye folows the line of her body the viewer is assaulted in succession by a wrinkled forehead, unflattering tan-lines and finally by hands that are positioned to form diagonals leading the eye to places that make the image appear to be a failed attempt at something far more provocative than I believe you were intending.

I mentioned the hands above, and the reason I did is that while the eyes carry the emotion of the portrait, the hands are what people use to do things with most often so they convey action. While she appears to be just resting her hands stiffly on her belly (much as standing models will hold they hands stifflly at their sides) I think the image is conveying more than was intended. This is accentuated by the angle of the arms creating a visual flow toward the them. As important as the eyes are to a portrait, the hands (when visible) are of a nearly equal importance.

This leaves me to discuss the face. While the wrinkled forehead has been mentioned, and that is an important consideration; her nose is my main concern here. The angle you have choosen makes the nose appear lengthened and very prominent (almost as prominent as her eyes). This also adds to the visual flow created by the angle of the arms.

That is what I dislike, and although there are a number of things I do like such as her eyes, I feel the camera angle creates too many strong compositional elements that work against the image. These include mainly the strong diagonals I discussed above as well as the Rule of Thirds' power points (at her breasts). To combat this, move the camrea to create compositional elements that accentuate what you are intending to convey, but also one that does not create elements that work against you.

As an example of a similar pose that I feel would work well at conveying an intention (although perhaps not the intention you were after) would be to move the camera to the left of right enough to place her elbows pointing to opposing corners (creating a strong diagonal with her face creating another diagonal that cuts the arm diagonal. This does a lot to create a sense of motion in the image, but I believe it could be enhanced further by placing one arm bending in the opposite direction of the other. This could create a circular visual flow with the strong diagonal dividing the image into two halves of the whole -- much like the yin-yang symbol indicates the active and passive forces, this could emphasize the two halves of mind and body and how they create a whole.

On a more technical aspect, the lighting is a bit flat and could be made to enhance the image much more. While the catchlight in her eyes really brings them to their best, the overall lighting does not creating much separation in th dark areas. it is hard (and im places impossible) to tell where the hair, bra and slip(?) change from one to the other. But this really is a minor issue to the ones I mentioned above.

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Disclaimer: :) I am an amateur, and a few months ago I knew nothing about photography and didn't know what I didn't know. Now I at least have a faint hint of what I don't know so I am not completely in the dark anymore. I typed the above with the intention of being helpful, but also as a thought excersize for myself in how I would have liked it to have been done. So please excuse my ramblings if I have taken it too far from what you intended. :p

David