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11/06/2004 08:40:06 AM · #1 |
There's been lots of discussion about which photos to comment on in challenges.
I wish I had time to comment on them all but, I have to work, unfortunately.
I adopted the principle of commenting on the midrange, that usually means the six's because after talking advise from GeneralE, I concluded that this is were I can offer the most assistance. Probably because that's where most of my images would be placed and can see what is being aimed for but IMO not being quite reached.
Since I have adopted this principle, (the last three challenges) I've actually received comments on my comments in the form of private messages from the photographers. Without exception they have been thanking me and giving further insight into their images.
Personally I find it very uplifting and I get a thrill to think my humble comments are making a difference to someone, even if its just getting them to think more about their photography.
Here is a sample of some of the feed back I've received.
You were one of the 1st to comment and I wanted to be sure to thank you and to share my thoughts on it.
I took your advise and played around with it some, both tightening and changing the lines a bit. Ironically, I ended up liking it a bit tighter, but still off level. Not sure why, but in another shot I'd taken the same morning of the river w/o the fishing poles, I found that to level the river made the image very static, almost robbing it of any energy and movement that was implied (the river itself was essentially sharp and not moving visually). I suspect it's simply an emotional "thing".
Anyway, thank you again for taking the time to comment and please don't hesitate to comment in return or on any of my other shots!
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Just wanted to say thanks for the comment on my entry for Implied Lines, I greatly appreciate the encouraging feedback and the constructive criticism. It was very helpful to have such concrete suggestions for improvement. :D
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hi peter, i'm such a amateur when it comes to
cameras, have no idea about technical side,
bumble along. photoshop i use quite a lot with
my art, duo tone is new for me, practice, practice.
low water marks is a cool photo, i like it.
like the sepia and yellow tones, with black.
have just discovered channel mixer and am getting
nice results for black & white.
cranes were difficult, was very overcast day,
also i should have cropped them, dunno why i didnt?
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Many thanks for you detailed and spot-on comments on my "Lines" entry... I really appreciate your time and educated eye.
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Thank you for your comment on my picture in the Implied Lines challenge. You are right that it is not a very unique picture. I took many different pictures, but this one just struck me as the best of the lot for this challenge. I appreciate your generous score.
For me this is what this sitre is all about! Try it for yourself, comment in a little detail (constructively), I think you will be very pleasantly surprised, I know I was.
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11/06/2004 12:19:22 PM · #2 |
well - not a bad philosphy. i appreciate your comment on my Oct Free Study entry - must have been sometime last night.
to be honest - you reitterated a good number of the feelings i had about the photo, but i thought it a fitting shot for the challenge.
BTW - i don't think the horizon is crooked.
i will try to follow your lead with my comments.
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11/06/2004 12:30:29 PM · #3 |
From the responses your comments obviously comprise more than "Nice shot - 6" and reflect at least having taken a serious look at the photo.
I wish it were easier to respond to comments, as I often don't manage to get around to it, and I know those responses (even if in respectful disagreement) will encourage more commenting.
This thread also provides some balance to the ones which complain about inappropriate responses to comments -- thanks for starting it.
Maybe everyone could post one comment they got on a photo which they felt made entering it worthwhile, regardless of the score the photo finally achieved. I know I've had a few of those, but I'll have to look around ... |
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11/06/2004 12:37:23 PM · #4 |
quite a poorly scored entry - was expecting that.
but received quite a few comments.
Originally posted by vadviraq: There are always some funny implementations for the challenges. :-) This one is great for a joke. Nice lighting and DOF, though, I would cut a bit on the bottom to get rid of the edges of the plate in the corner. Meeting the challenge... well, I laughed a lot on this and it's funny, but isn't really the type of photo I would rate high in this challenge... however, thanks for sharing. |
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11/06/2004 12:41:18 PM · #5 |
"...There's been lots of discussion about which photos to comment on in challenges. I wish I had time to comment on them all but, I have to work, unfortunately..."
I am a newcomer to DPC (just a few minutes ago submitted my first entry), and have voted in 3 or 4 challenges but left few comments, and really none with a constructive critique. I'm glad that I clicked on your "Why We Should Leave Comments" thread as it is encouraging to see some responses to the comments you have left for others. I also like your idea of budgeting your comments to the entries that you score in the mid-range. Part of the reason that I have been hesitant to comment is the sentiment of "who am I to offer advise?" in that I am no expert either! But I'll give it a whirl... hopefully it will be of benefit to someone. Thanks for sharing your experience!
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11/06/2004 12:43:35 PM · #6 |
hey nova,
my daughters name is Nova!
here she is :)
sorry for interupting your thread, i'm just happy to see a nova online!
BTW
I totally agree with you Blackdog, I try to comment, but i don't always have the time.
Message edited by author 2004-11-06 12:46:00.
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11/06/2004 12:43:57 PM · #7 |
Yes! to Blackdog. I agree so wholeheartedly. My brightest moments lately have been the times that one of my comments just hit the nail for someone or "made their day" or really helped them with something. There is no better feeling in the world - DPC can really be a great place when you put your own positive energy and work back into it. Thanks Blackdog and all of you.
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11/06/2004 01:05:26 PM · #8 |
Another "yes" for Blackdog. Being a consistent middle-of-the-roader I greatly appreciate knowing exactly what I can do to improve. That means knowing what people see as rightly done and what is wrong. I've also been trying to take the little I know and offer it to the 5's and 6's I give. Of course, I usually have to comment on those that just wow me. What is surprising to me is that over 100 comments I've made have not been checked as "helpful." I find that interesting. I may not be a ribbon-winner but I still know some things about composition, etc. I don't think I've ever received a comment that wasn't helpful, with the exception of one I just rec'd in Bizarre Nature -- and I'm still thinking on it. It may turn out to be helpful after all. |
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11/06/2004 01:33:31 PM · #9 |
And another yes. Great topic BlackDog!
I know how important it is to comment.
I entered a few challenges and the few that scored less also got less comments.
If you are scoring lower then expected it is important to know where you can improve.
Offcourse it is nice to have a high scoring picture and have 50 comments all saying that it is nice, beautifull and WOW, but scoring a 7 on a pictures also tells you people think you did good.
For people that have some time on their hands, and like to give constructive comments, why don't you also joint the Critique Club...
Comments are important!
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11/06/2004 01:44:54 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by dipaulk: Another "yes" for Blackdog. Being a consistent middle-of-the-roader I greatly appreciate knowing exactly what I can do to improve. That means knowing what people see as rightly done and what is wrong. I've also been trying to take the little I know and offer it to the 5's and 6's I give. Of course, I usually have to comment on those that just wow me. What is surprising to me is that over 100 comments I've made have not been checked as "helpful." I find that interesting. I may not be a ribbon-winner but I still know some things about composition, etc. I don't think I've ever received a comment that wasn't helpful, with the exception of one I just rec'd in Bizarre Nature -- and I'm still thinking on it. It may turn out to be helpful after all. |
I looked at your comments made and they are excellent. Don't know why they aren't marked helpful, but we all the the same thing. I don't put a lot of weight on that myself.
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11/06/2004 02:04:50 PM · #11 |
i've been trying a couple new things as far as commenting goes. after a challenge is over, i'll pick the image that scored closest to a 5, and start commenting. i'm also looking to "return the favor" by commenting on images of photographers who have both commented on my images and also seem to be giving more comments than they receive.
also, i don't mean this as a slight to any registered user, but i tend to feel more inclined to seek out images to comment on among the non-challenge entries, as they seem to give me a better idea of what a photographer is capable of. |
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11/12/2004 03:14:21 PM · #12 |
Wow, thanks for the backup, again I'm thrilled to be "speaking the same language" as at least some of my peers. Its the same buzz as receiving a "Thanks for the comments..."
I'm relatively new to DPC but I now recognise some of the usernames such as Kylie, ericlimon, soup, GenralE and am glad that you seasoned DPC'ers agree. The other names are just as welcome and offer just as valid an opinion. The reason I recognise some of the names is through commenting. After the challenge I go through the entries to see how well the ones I commented on did and if the other comments are "in line" with mine. That also helps me learn, if I was right about something or if I was way off, then I may re-evaluate my own perception of something.
I also tend to look at the portfolio of the other commenters, (is that a real word?), and the participants of the challenge, I think it helps understand what they are saying or trying to put across in the shot, but that's after the event is over. I can remember coming across somebody before as soon as I look at their portfolio, the shots stay in my mind for a long time.
All round this whole site is a vast learning experience for me and I'm thinking more about my photography now than I've done for a long time.
Thanks to all you out there in DPC land.
Soup, that horizon is never level, is it??? Maybe my monitor needs propping up at one side?
Typo error Doh!
Message edited by author 2004-11-12 15:14:54.
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11/12/2004 03:46:48 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by GeneralE: ....Maybe everyone could post one comment they got on a photo which they felt made entering it worthwhile, regardless of the score the photo finally achieved. I know I've had a few of those, but I'll have to look around ... |
I think we should add that people need to respect anonymity and wait until voting is over before posting comments received on challenge entries.
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11/12/2004 05:20:25 PM · #14 |
Another YES! (and a big one too).
I say thank you to any comment. Whenever someone take a moment
to add their thoughts, and suggestions, I am happy (: |
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11/12/2004 06:33:09 PM · #15 |
Blackdog,
Good thoughts. I always get good feedback when I comment. It is extremely rare that I will recieve a negative comment to my comment.
Keep the comments flowing.
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