Iran Endorses Bush for President

11/02/2004 01:21:50 PM · #51

Originally posted by bdobe:

Originally posted by achiral:
kerry supporters...please name one public plan (with a link) kerry has presented that makes you think i should vote for him. and i'm not talking about a promise from him to rescue me from bush, but an actual plan on anything...

I'll take your question at face value, presume that it comes from a sincere place, and that you're still trying to make up your mind.

Key in Mr. Kerry's platform is his healthcare plan, which I have heard described by some observers as innovative and far seeing; because of its proposal to cut out "catastrophic costs" from the equation that private healthcare providers must workout in order to remain profitable. As the observers have noted, Mr. Kerry's healthcare plan correctly identifies "catastrophic costs" (i.e., cancer, heart attack, strokes, etc.) as a prime factor that keeps healthcare premiums high for employers and employees; consequently, this part of the "Kerry Healthcare Plan" alone would go some ways into reining in costs.

You can read the detailed plan here: //www.johnkerry.com/issues/health_care/health_care.html

I just took a quick read of that and the jist of it, from what I got, is that tax dollars would go to insurance carriers to help them pay the big bills. Did I get it right?

bdobe

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

11/02/2004 01:54:16 PM · #52

Originally posted by louddog:

Originally posted by bdobe:

Originally posted by achiral:
kerry supporters...please name one public plan (with a link) kerry has presented that makes you think i should vote for him. and i'm not talking about a promise from him to rescue me from bush, but an actual plan on anything...

I'll take your question at face value, presume that it comes from a sincere place, and that you're still trying to make up your mind.

Key in Mr. Kerry's platform is his healthcare plan, which I have heard described by some observers as innovative and far seeing; because of its proposal to cut out "catastrophic costs" from the equation that private healthcare providers must workout in order to remain profitable. As the observers have noted, Mr. Kerry's healthcare plan correctly identifies "catastrophic costs" (i.e., cancer, heart attack, strokes, etc.) as a prime factor that keeps healthcare premiums high for employers and employees; consequently, this part of the "Kerry Healthcare Plan" alone would go some ways into reining in costs.

You can read the detailed plan here: //www.johnkerry.com/issues/health_care/health_care.html

I just took a quick read of that and the jist of it, from what I got, is that tax dollars would go to insurance carriers to help them pay the big bills. Did I get it right?

Yes, you got the "jist" of it right -- this is comparable to the often used "tax deductions" that we've become some familiar with, since both parties rely on them to affect policy. As I mentioned, close observers of the American healthcare system say that this is a good idea because it takes away one of the biggest factors that insurance carriers claim keeps their costs so high -- that is, "catastrophic care," or, as you put it, the truly "big bills."

11/02/2004 05:04:30 PM · #53

Got it, bigger government - higher taxes.

Thanks.

bdobe

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

11/02/2004 05:23:44 PM · #54

Originally posted by louddog:

Got it, bigger government - higher taxes.

Thanks.

Funny that you say that, and that that's all you seem to get from what's a very good healthcare plan. Remember, it's your candidate, Bush, that's created the biggest government bureaucracies since FDR. It's your candidate that's generated the biggest growth in government spending since Reagan. Moreover, it's your candidate that's created the biggest deficit in US history... of course, you're still voting for your guy, only because he's your guy and not because he really represents what you continue to claim to believe in.

Message edited by author 2004-11-02 17:25:22.

11/02/2004 05:37:28 PM · #55

Originally posted by bdobe:

Originally posted by louddog:
Got it, bigger government - higher taxes.

Thanks.

Funny that you say that, and that that's all you seem to get from what's a very good healthcare plan. Remember, it's your candidate, Bush, that's created the biggest government bureaucracies since FDR. It's your candidate that's generated the biggest growth in government spending since Reagan. Moreover, it's your candidate that's created the biggest deficit in US history... of course, you're still voting for your guy, only because he's your guy and not because he really represents what you continue to claim to believe in.

Thanks again for the info. You sure are a wealth of information. Unfortunatly your assumptions about me are incorrect. In the future can you please refrain from making assumptions about me and posting them on the internet? I have reasons for voting the way I did and they are valid. I don't need you making assumptions about how and why I voted and sharing those assumptions with the world.

PS You don't know what I believe in.

Message edited by author 2004-11-02 17:38:40.

Salar

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

11/02/2004 06:28:37 PM · #56

Originally posted by louddog:

PS You don't know what I believe in.

From the sounds of it, neither do you.

MadMordegon

11/02/2004 06:31:59 PM · #57

Originally posted by Salar:

Originally posted by louddog:

PS You don't know what I believe in.

From the sounds of it, neither do you.

There seems to be alot of that going around these days.

11/02/2004 06:36:58 PM · #58

Originally posted by Salar:

Originally posted by louddog:

PS You don't know what I believe in.

From the sounds of it, neither do you.

I know exactly what I believe. Thanks for your concern though.

From the looks of it you like to make assumptions.

bdobe

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

11/02/2004 06:39:39 PM · #59

Originally posted by louddog:

Originally posted by Salar:

Originally posted by louddog:

PS You don't know what I believe in.

From the sounds of it, neither do you.

I know exactly what I believe. Thanks for your concern though.

From the looks of it you like to make assumptions.

So, all this time you've played devil's advocate, and just argued the other side for the sake of argument? What's the deal?

Message edited by author 2004-11-02 18:56:41.