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 10/27/2004 01:45:31 AM · #26
Originally posted by Britannica:
Just a little video for the PC users, like me, to get an feel for The Mac Experience.

David

Thanks! That was good for some laughs. It brought back some funny memories too.

10/27/2004 01:57:27 AM · #27
Originally posted by digistoune:
Originally posted by micknewton:
This makes me wonder how many times my photos have been voted down just because you Mac wienies can't see straight. 8-)


Love Muffin, I don't vote down photos because they are too bright or too dark; I take into account that getting a PC to work much less calibrating to any standard is a feet that usually requires holy intervention. I vote down photos because they are... well... bad. :-)

Ohhh Love Biscuit, surely you're not hintimating that my photos are bad, are you? Please tell me it isn't so. :(

10/27/2004 12:46:37 PM · #28
Originally posted by micknewton:
Originally posted by digistoune:
Originally posted by micknewton:
This makes me wonder how many times my photos have been voted down just because you Mac wienies can't see straight. 8-)


Love Muffin, I don't vote down photos because they are too bright or too dark; I take into account that getting a PC to work much less calibrating to any standard is a feet that usually requires holy intervention. I vote down photos because they are... well... bad. :-)

Ohhh Love Biscuit, surely you're not hintimating that my photos are bad, are you? Please tell me it isn't so. :(


LMAO - of course not, Sweetness! I would never!
10/27/2004 12:57:14 PM · #29
Would you two please go get a thread?

;0)
 10/27/2004 01:53:39 PM · #30
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Right, Macs are the graphics standard, so they should change their settings ...


That's right. I don't have a MAC but there's a reason that's all you see when you walk into design offices.
 10/27/2004 02:04:07 PM · #31
Not only an issue with Macs. Pictures that look good at home look washed out on my work laptop. I now make it a habit to check a submitted image on my work laptop and adjust it so it looks good both at home and at work (a compromise).
 10/27/2004 03:20:29 PM · #32
The idea of post processing is to prepare the image for the media it is to be presented on. For images that are to be presented on the web; that involves preparing them for the 2.2 gamma standard. And, from what I understand, many printing agencies are wanting the images submitted to them in sRGB -- based on the 2.2 gamma standard.

David
 11/01/2004 10:45:43 PM · #33
"although gaming is sooo very much better on a mac."

What? No gamers use Macs for gaming. There aren't enough games on the market for Macs.

I build my own computers so Mac is not a choice. I don't want some snob designer thinking he/she knows what I want in a computer. I select each component myself.
11/01/2004 10:52:52 PM · #34
Originally posted by DoFear:
...I don't want some snob designer thinking he/she knows what I want in a computer. I select each component myself.


17 manufacturers in one box for the hardware and 48 different ones for the software? Some integration! ;-)
 11/01/2004 10:59:40 PM · #35
Unreal Turniment 2004 is out for mac. and if you played it on 1 you would see that the graphics are so very very much cleaner than a on pc!
although not many games are avalibule for mac. one can use vurtule PC for mac. and play any PC game out on the market on a mac. comp. so your rong. lots of games can be played on mac.
congrats. on the buliding of your own computers though thats a nice way to go. i've done it once or twice.
but that doesn't change the arts industry and the printing industry they still use the good ole' mac. and they arn't chainging any time soon (unless their jobs are "out sorced"by bush and his gang)
so see if you don't have a design job you can't be a"snob designer".
get a new attitude!!!

Originally posted by DoFear:
"although gaming is sooo very much better on a mac."

What? No gamers use Macs for gaming. There aren't enough games on the market for Macs.

I build my own computers so Mac is not a choice. I don't want some snob designer thinking he/she knows what I want in a computer. I select each component myself.



11/01/2004 11:20:22 PM · #36
;) Translation attempt for PC users:

Unreal Tournament 2004 is out for Mac. And if you played it on 1 you would see that the graphics are so very, very much cleaner than a on pc!
Although not many games are available for Mac, one can use virtual PC for Mac. And, play any PC game out on the market on a Mac. Comp. So you’re wrong. Lots of games can be played on Mac.
Congrats. On the building of your own computers though that's a nice way to go. I've done it once or twice.
But that doesn't change the arts industry and the printing industry they still use the good ole' Mac. And they aren't changing any time soon (unless their jobs are "out sorced" by bush and his gang)
So see if you don't have a design job you can't be a "snob designer".
Get a new attitude!!!
11/01/2004 11:28:28 PM · #37
i spell stuff rong when i be mad as dog

(note: i did that intentionally)

but thanx for providing the trans.lol(i'm dumb)
 11/02/2004 12:22:34 AM · #38
Do we really need another Mac vs PC thread? I think this issue has been hashed out a million times already. Everyone will say their platform/OS is better than the other for whatever reason. Why can't we just accept that there will always be differences? I realize that the PC is better in some areas and worse in others just like the Mac. I've accepted that fact and I use Macs daily and cringe when I need to use a PC. I'm sure many others feel the opposite. Let's move on and take photos instead! :)
 11/02/2004 01:21:02 AM · #39
thank you i've had this argument w/my friends meany times and that is always what we come to please just drop it.
 11/02/2004 01:38:54 AM · #40
Originally posted by fotodude:
thank you i've had this argument w/my friends meany times and that is always what we come to please just drop it.


I agree.

What I don't agree with is that any printer would request files in sRGB colorspace.
It's a limited colorspace compared to other RGB options and most printers *I* know
of (being "in the business" so to speak) use 4-color (or more) presses - CMYK. So
they don't want an RGB file at all.

Macs and PCs do operate - typically - at different gammas, but I have never once
seen an image that was well-processed and saved properly for the web that looked
bad on my Mac.

Unfortunately, all the color-matching and color settings on a platform and within
an application can be very difficult to understand and master (10 years I've been
doing this design gig and still have issues) and likely contribute to the problems
people experience editing and saving images for the web.

I would say the biggest problem is simply different monitors. Different manufacturers,
different copies of the same model, etc etc - ALL different and in need of a good
calibration, at least monthly, to be their best. Also, a good video card should not be
discounted. LCDs? Wouldn't buy one, even an Apple display (which are some of the
best LCDs available) as a CRT just renders so many more subtle shades, accurately.

Ok, there's my Rant. Love your Mac? Love your PC? Good for you. Now spend some
loving on that display, video card and a calibration system. :)
 11/02/2004 02:15:04 AM · #41
Originally posted by Britannica:
Just a little video for the PC users, like me, to get an feel for The Mac Experience.

David


THAT is toooooooooooo funny thank you i needed a good laugh
 11/02/2004 12:06:39 PM · #42
god i love Mac vs PC debates :)

set your monitor colour to 5500K and you'll be closer to Mac display on a PC :)
 11/02/2004 12:23:54 PM · #43
Mac user here, and that video reminds me of my days on a PC rather than on my Mac....

1.8 is the standard for print because the clarity of the pictures that much better, 2.2 is the standard for the web because IE became a standard, not for any quality or logical reasons.

Anyway, to each their own. I have used both on a regular basis, but only spend my money on Macs.=)
 11/02/2004 12:43:38 PM · #44
You Mac and PC people are so funny. Everything looks fine on my Commodore 64 connected to my 13" B&W TV circa 1984.
 11/02/2004 01:59:52 PM · #45
Originally posted by ijerry:
... 1.8 is the standard for print because the clarity of the pictures that much better, 2.2 is the standard for the web because IE became a standard, not for any quality or logical reasons. ...

Some information.

David
 11/02/2004 02:06:46 PM · #46
Originally posted by Britannica:
Originally posted by ijerry:
... 1.8 is the standard for print because the clarity of the pictures that much better, 2.2 is the standard for the web because IE became a standard, not for any quality or logical reasons. ...

Some information.

David


Ugh! Don't let Laurie see this or else she'll be running around screaming...all those equations and formulae and greek letters... ;)
 11/02/2004 02:08:20 PM · #47
I wonder why the PC people are "RIGHT," then...based on this..
Hewlett-Packard and Microsoft propose the addition of support for a standard color space, sRGB, within the Microsoft operating systems, HP products, the Internet, and all other interested vendors.

Sorta, but not sorta topic. So what is everyones thoughts on Adobe DNG at this time? Are you using it?
 11/02/2004 02:35:38 PM · #48
You guys are all lost souls... Real photographers use Linux. We save our hard earned money for expensive lenses!
 11/02/2004 03:03:17 PM · #49
"You guys are all lost souls... Real photographers use Linux. We save our hard earned money for expensive lenses!"

no,no real photographers shoot full formatt and don't use a comp. a day in their lives like for instance (the late) Ansel Adams.

no arguing with me on that one he did far more than any one of us and never used a comp. to help with any of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SO DROP IT nothing more needs to be said except- TO EACH HIS/HER OWN!!!!!!

now get out and try to capture something even half as good as Ansel (using what ever medium u want).
and call it a day.-for this thread anyway!

_Brando_

Message edited by author 2004-11-02 15:06:13.
 11/02/2004 03:13:30 PM · #50
Was Ansel a Canon or Nikon guy? ;-)
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