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Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

11/01/2004 06:29:29 PM · #1

We have Members Challenges, Masters Challenges, Open Challenges, Speed Challenges, Month-long Free Study Challenges...

Think of a type of challenge you would like to see that is not on this list and list it here.

Thanks!

-Terry

11/01/2004 06:31:34 PM · #2

I would like to see more challenges with fewer entries.

To that end I would suggest, for example, having three open challenges per week and three members ones.

These could be split into having themes that relate to techniques, themes that relate to subjects to be photographed and themes that relate to concepts or words.

I would also suggest that people are restricted to enter only one of any 3 at each level to motivate people to enter only the challenge that motivates them most rather than entering everything for the sake of it.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR

11/01/2004 06:34:02 PM · #3

PS I know that someone will suggest that if there are to be more challenges, perhaps people should be restricted to voting only on challenges in which they have not entered.

My pre-emptive counterargument to that would be that, personally I would always prefer to have the option to enter AND vote on the challenge that interested me most.

jmlelii

Nikon D850

11/01/2004 06:40:44 PM · #4

perhaps have Age Bracket challenges...

IE:
19-under
20-29
30-39
etc

I think that would stir up the pot a bit

jbeazell

Nikon D3100

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR

11/01/2004 06:40:54 PM · #5

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Think of a type of challenge you would like to see that is not on this list and list it here.

I still like the idea of a 'non-master' challenge, as suggested by some in the numerous master challenge threads.

Although I'm sure DPC makes a lot of money selling prints from the masters challenges, the true spirit of the site is still founded in everyone's desire to learn and grow. We can't do that if we can't partake in the challenges.

ButterflySis

Canon EOS-50D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

11/01/2004 06:41:07 PM · #6

I just skimmed the other thread on the unfairness of the Master's Challenge. I personally don't find it unfair, but maybe a challenge that includes a wider group of people would be more fair. For example, an open and/or members challenge for anyone placing in the top 20 (or whatever reasonable number) three or more times AND does not have a ribbon. It would probably produce a lower number of entries and give a non-ribbon-winning contestant a chance at a ribbon.

Might be a dumb idea, but thought I'd suggest it anyway...

jbeazell

Nikon D3100

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR

11/01/2004 06:42:03 PM · #7

Originally posted by jmlelii:

perhaps have Age Bracket challenges...
IE:
19-under
20-29
30-39
etc

I think that would be really fun, not only to shoot for, but vote in :) It would be fascinating to see how differently each age group sees the world!

aznym

Fujifilm X-T3

Fujifilm XF 23mm f/2 R WR

11/01/2004 06:43:25 PM · #8

How do you prove your age on the web?

MWitt

Canon EOS-5D

Tokina AF 28-70mm f/2.8 ATX Pro-SV for Canon EOS

11/01/2004 06:43:45 PM · #9

How about a rotating regional challenge?
Topic could be open to anything or with a chosen subject.
Maybe the subject is related somehow to the specified region.
Something that happens on a weekly basis.

For example:
California Challenge,
Colorado Challenge,
Iceland Challenge,
England Challenge,
Brazil Challenge,
Argentina Challenge.

Where the only people allowed to participate are those people who live in that area of the world.

Message edited by author 2004-11-01 18:44:26.

ClubJuggle

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

11/01/2004 06:44:23 PM · #10

Originally posted by jmlelii:

perhaps have Age Bracket challenges...

IE:
19-under
20-29
30-39
etc

I think that would stir up the pot a bit

From an idea standpoint, I very much like this.... I especially liked the "DPChildren" challenge idea expressed in another thread.

There are a couple really sticky practical issues though, and those are enforcement (ensuring people enter the proper age bracket), and accomodating users who do not wish to reveal their ages in their profiles (of course, that accomodation could be "don't enter.")

Any suggestions for dealing with the enforcement issue?

-Terry

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

11/01/2004 06:48:20 PM · #11

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Originally posted by jmlelii:
perhaps have Age Bracket challenges...

IE:
19-under
20-29
30-39
etc

I think that would stir up the pot a bit

From an idea standpoint, I very much like this.... I especially liked the "DPChildren" challenge idea expressed in another thread.

There are a couple really sticky practical issues though, and those are enforcement (ensuring people enter the proper age bracket), and accomodating users who do not wish to reveal their ages in their profiles (of course, that accomodation could be "don't enter.")

Any suggestions for dealing with the enforcement issue?

-Terry

Have a field to enter your birthdate but also a preference to keep it hidden in your profile would probably cover this.

jmlelii

Nikon D850

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR

11/01/2004 06:48:26 PM · #12

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

I would say make it a requirement to Put your birth date, BUT like the email part you can have the option of making it "undisclosed"

StevePax

Canon PowerShot S50

11/01/2004 06:49:17 PM · #13

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Public shame and humiliation for anyone who would be low enough to lie about their age for something like this.

ganders

Canon EOS-40D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

11/01/2004 06:50:11 PM · #14

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Any suggestions for dealing with the enforcement issue?

I'd say just take it on trust; I find it hard to believe there would be many people here who would (say) claim to be 18 rather than 33 just so they could enter a different category.

Especially as most of us have probably already put our age into our profiles before this was suggested :-)

Falc

Canon EOS-1D Mark III

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

11/01/2004 06:50:40 PM · #15

One thing which I haven't seen (but maybe its already been done) is a panel of 3 images on a theme. So something like the month long free study, but the submission should be 3 images which are linked in some way.

The technical challenge would be how to view these panels, and vote on them as a set.

Message edited by author 2004-11-01 18:51:38.

11/01/2004 06:50:50 PM · #16

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Trust.

Anyone who wants to cheat will always find a way and, in this case, I can't see an advantage to declaring one's age to be anything other than what it is.

As for those not wanting to reveal exact age - if you do it by age bands they may be happier - i.e. I'm in the 30-39 category.

On the other hand I'm at a loss as to why this particular one would be of interest since age is one of the things I have never ever considered when viewing images with the sole exception of thinking how superb it is that some of our youngest members are already so skilled at such a tender age.

Past 18 though and I don't even think about it.

I've never caught myself saying, ah well, Gordon is in his 30s and Kiwiness is in his 40s and that this is in anyway relevant.

That said, I am not against the idea in any way! Just expressing curiosity about it!

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM

11/01/2004 06:52:41 PM · #17

PS, given what we're discussing in chat, I'd REALLY love to see challenges without descriptions.

Just the name of the challenge theme and nothing more.

hsteg

Fujifilm X-T20

11/01/2004 06:52:52 PM · #18

me and konador (how old is he?) and tranquil and some others can have our own dpcteens. lol

aznym

Fujifilm X-T3

Fujifilm XF 23mm f/2 R WR

11/01/2004 06:54:55 PM · #19

Originally posted by Kavey:

PS, given what we're discussing in chat, I'd REALLY love to see challenges without descriptions.

Just the name of the challenge theme and nothing more.

I second that. I think the descriptions are misleading in many cases and people debate about what to look for and end up voting in a state of confusion.

magnus

Canon EOS-30D

Sigma 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS for Canon

11/01/2004 06:55:40 PM · #20

Originally posted by ButterflySis:

Actually, that sounds like a great idea to me. Basically, I'd like any kind of challenge format that retains the bias towards high quality, like the Master's Challenge, but isn't quite so restrictive. Whether ribbon-winners would be allowed to enter or not is less important to me.

jmlelii

Nikon D850

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR

11/01/2004 06:57:09 PM · #21

Originally posted by Kavey:

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Originally posted by jmlelii:
perhaps have Age Bracket challenges...

IE:
19-under
20-29
30-39
etc

I think that would stir up the pot a bit

From an idea standpoint, I very much like this.... I especially liked the "DPChildren" challenge idea expressed in another thread.

There are a couple really sticky practical issues though, and those are enforcement (ensuring people enter the proper age bracket), and accomodating users who do not wish to reveal their ages in their profiles (of course, that accomodation could be "don't enter.")

Any suggestions for dealing with the enforcement issue?

-Terry

Trust.

Anyone who wants to cheat will always find a way and, in this case, I can't see an advantage to declaring one's age to be anything other than what it is.

As for those not wanting to reveal exact age - if you do it by age bands they may be happier - i.e. I'm in the 30-39 category.

On the other hand I'm at a loss as to why this particular one would be of interest since age is one of the things I have never ever considered when viewing images with the sole exception of thinking how superb it is that some of our youngest members are already so skilled at such a tender age.

Past 18 though and I don't even think about it.

I've never caught myself saying, ah well, Gordon is in his 30s and Kiwiness is in his 40s and that this is in anyway relevant.

That said, I am not against the idea in any way! Just expressing curiosity about it!

This doesnt go for everyone, but most folks in the younger class (18-under and even 20-29) have a tendency to not be "pros" or "advanced amateaurs", so I think by doing age brackets, at least for once challenge, skill is broken up somewhat. For example, a person who is 40 and has been shooting since they were 20, has 19 more years experience than I do as I've only been shooting seriously for a year. Does that make sense?

pmichaud

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

11/01/2004 06:58:10 PM · #22

Originally posted by jmlelii:

perhaps have Age Bracket challenges...

IE:
19-under
20-29
30-39
etc

I think that would stir up the pot a bit

That would be WONDERFUL!! I'd be almost guaranteed a clear shot in the "older than dirt" category :)

ClubJuggle

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

11/01/2004 07:00:18 PM · #23

Originally posted by ganders:

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Any suggestions for dealing with the enforcement issue?

I'd say just take it on trust; I find it hard to believe there would be many people here who would (say) claim to be 18 rather than 33 just so they could enter a different category.

Especially as most of us have probably already put our age into our profiles before this was suggested :-)

I can almost guarantee it would happen. People falsify originals and lie about dates to try to win electronic ribbons that have no tangible value, why wouldn't they lie about their age to go up against what is perceived as easier competition?

-Terry