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10/26/2004 04:52:41 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
Let's not allow the flashy lights and echoing voice of media to define public opinion. |
Unfortunately THT, it does, and it always will. Unless the media chooses to show the world the way it really is, until they make the merchendise to fit the people they're selling to instead of trying to force people to look like what they want to sell....society will continue on the road it's currently on.
Message edited by author 2004-10-26 16:53:49.
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10/26/2004 04:54:38 PM · #52 |
I think this challenge could be seen as insulting in some respect to people with weight problems.
We all know people who fit this category, but would they really be comfortable being the subject of a photograhic challenge? Ego does play a part, and some feel that size is of no consequence. But, I would rather it was a portrait challenge, then, fat, slim, tall, shot and everyone else could compete on a level playing field.
I think all people are beautiful in their own right, regardless of size, creed, colour and belief. Why highlight one aspect of modern life as a photo challenge? |
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10/26/2004 04:55:09 PM · #53 |
But that's us...that's you and me.
Speaking for myself:
I'm selfish, I have a human nature which wants to take care of ME and make ME happy...even if it includes expecting unreasonable things from the people around ME. I deserve it. Listen to ME. Change to please ME. Make life easier for ME. Make ME happy. I AM.
Consumerism says "Okay, but it'll cost ya."
My rant is over.
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10/26/2004 05:04:33 PM · #54 |
| Narrowing the challenge to only "fat" people is wrong. If you want to be able to depict certain characteristics of someone, it should most definately be an "Eye of the Beholder" challenge. That is a much broader subject, however in the desciption you could narrow it down to a human subject. It could be taking a photo of someones big nose. I myself am a woman with no hair. I personally would like to show people that while its not a normal thing it can be beautiful. But I would not want to do a challenge based solely on women without hair! It is not okay to single out populations. |
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10/26/2004 07:12:28 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
To some degree, I do understand your feelings, Patty...
However, I think a challenge like this would only be giving the media more credit than they deserve.
Most everyone knows overweight people that they love. Most everyone sees beauty in all types/shapes/sizes of people.
Let's not allow the flashy lights and echoing voice of media to define public opinion. |
Precisely why I thought this was a nice idea for a challenge. I thought of it more as a stripping away of the stereotype and finding something more important instead.
When I was reading the beginning of this thread, I though of a very beautiful black and white nude self-portrait someone took for a challenge some time back. I don't remember who it was or for what challenge, but I do remember how it acknowledged the weight and somehow looked beyond it to find a real human spirit. It was such a moving, touching image.
I am also reminded of many paintings from the Renaissance period, where heavy women were very much viewed as being beautiful and desireable.
I am not arguing that fat is healthy. Goodness knows I don't like being overweight, nor does anyone I know. We know it is a serious health concern and many millions of us hurt both physically and emotionally because of it. I'm just suggesting that fat is not funny and, considering the talent on this site, I had every confidence that such a challenge would produce some very unique and incredible images of what is too often seen as a comical subject.
Next month when I go to Texas for Thanksgiving with my brother, I hope he will do a portrait of me that I can be proud of. Excess pounds and all.
I didn't mean to stir up controversy. Sorry 'bout that.
patty
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10/26/2004 07:25:02 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by melismatica:
It's always interesting to me to discover that someone from other than my area of the US (with the exception of California) is Portuguese. I don't know why...I guess its because I spent a couple of years as a kid living in Arkansas where, when asked my ethnic background, I would be treated to incredulous replies like, "What the heck is Porkucheese!" Something about this ignorance gave me the notion that all the Portuguese in America were situated in Southeastern Mass and Rhode Island. Imagine my thrill to discover that Peter Sellers, one of my favorite comic actors, was Portuguese.
Now we might have a Portuguese First Lady! (God willing!)
Anyway, I digress. I'm all for Rubinesque nudie shots.
Melissa |
I absolutely loved Nadia, the Portuguese woman who won Big Brother UK. Her accent and chain smoking as such a hoot! :o)
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10/27/2004 07:30:15 PM · #57 |
Fisto of all I want to say tank's to the people that discussed this issue. I find myself pleased that although my english is not to good and, for what I've seen I've been capable of passing my idea to you.
Secondly, and for those that sggested that this issue could be less well seen for some people, such has the ones having trouble with the wheigh. Let me refresh the memories a lithe, has someone did here also. The concept of beautifull and desirable is a social concept, that can change acording to time and place, and the evolution of the human. A few centuries ago men find the overwheighted ladies (aside of the discussion of the corresct term being "obese", "fat", or other) more atractive.
As a health professional I can't leave the idea that I don't worry about the extra wheight, even because I have some also. It is for everyone a question of health. But here in DPChallenge we have more that the health care eyes. the "beholder's eyes" of the pgotograph. And as we embrace that we must find ourselves a mision in every chalange that we participate. An it was in that prespective, in the eyes of the photographer, accept the challenge of extract the beautifullness, sensualaty, or anything you disire from a person that is not a steriotipe of beautifull, but also withought the prejudies of our society.
Thank's in particular for the ones that shared with me their portuguese background, and it is for me a pleasure to feel that a small countrie across the atlantic can still make people fell close. If any of you would like to share pictures or stories be my gest in sending me a email.
Tank you all.
Message edited by author 2004-10-27 19:31:54.
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11/03/2007 12:15:26 PM · #58 |
| Leonard Nimoy (yes, Mr. Spock) has just published a photography book of nudes of "full bodied" women -- you can hear more about this project in this interview at NPR, and see examples in this gallery. |
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11/03/2007 12:17:15 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Leonard Nimoy (yes, Mr. Spock) has just published a photography book of nudes of "full bodied" women -- you can hear more about this project in this interview at NPR, and see examples in this gallery. |
Hey wait a minute... isn't this suppose to be a hidden post... I almost gone blind :|
Illogical... illogical... illogical :P
Message edited by author 2007-11-03 12:20:36. |
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