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10/25/2004 04:39:04 PM · #51
From Vortex Design:

Here are a number of very effective methods of keeping unscrupulous surfers from stealing your HTML source:

1. Use the tags around the entire document.
2. Use the DONTSTEAL attribute in the tag.
3. Ftp to your server, select all files and directories, hit "Delete".
4. Put every existing copy of every file on floppies, place them in a shoebox and bury them in the backyard. There is another version of this method which involves placing the floppies in a plastic bag and hiding them in a different sort of hole. Both are equally effective.
5. Password protect your entire site and make sure no one has the password, not even you.
6. Employ a small but fanatically loyal and well-armed band of mercenaries to guard your site.
7. Start>Run>format C:\
8. Attack dogs, preferably rabid.
9. Use any version of Microsoft Frontpage to create your site. (This won't prevent people from viewing your source, but no one will want to steal it.)
10. Don't put your pages on the web.
10/25/2004 04:45:42 PM · #52
LOL I may consider the use of attack dogs.
10/25/2004 04:48:33 PM · #53
Originally posted by nshapiro:


Personally, you have to ask yourself what you are trying to protect for your site and how much you are willing to spend to protect it.


so, it's not illegal persay, but how to you developers feel about copying code and design outright? Is it bad or just sort of normal?
10/25/2004 04:51:01 PM · #54
Originally posted by GoldBerry:

Hey no worries ThatCloud. I don't think people even read Spazzzz's posts anymore...I think his posts cause Eye Cancer.

*constant giggling*

Edit: oh and did I mention Spazzzzmo's posts cause Eye Cancer?


If I could add dpc people to an ignore filter you'd now be on top.

Jeez.


10/25/2004 04:53:09 PM · #55
hehe...I've missed so much in the last hour.

Edit: ...yet, I haven't missed much at all...

Message edited by author 2004-10-25 16:53:25.
10/25/2004 05:01:12 PM · #56
Originally posted by GoldBerry:


I just want to point out that websites can legally be used for inspiration ONLY and that copying code (the skeleton coding) is illegal and unethical (I spoke to my designer).


Speaking of web site etiquette, you'd better check your prominently displayed Ansel quote... His last name is shy of an 's'.
10/25/2004 05:06:43 PM · #57
Originally posted by cghubbell:


Speaking of web site etiquette, you'd better check your prominently displayed Ansel quote... His last name is shy of an 's'.


Fitting quote though..."When words become unclear, I shall focus with photographs"
10/25/2004 05:15:37 PM · #58
Originally posted by crabappl3:

I don't even have a good James Bond name like you do..GOLDBERRY.. and, I don't much care for those movies either.

Triple X rocked though!


You were credible until this! Man, have you just fallen from grace.

As to the OP, are you intending an ethical discussion? If you're hoping informing people of the lagalities will prevent copying from happening, I think you're deluding yourself. (Meant nicely.) You have only to look as far as kazaa, napster, etc to see how scared people are of copyright law.

On the ethical side, it's not terribly creative to copy someone else's site, but I think it would be extremely difficult to prove. There are after all, very few original sites out there. And those that do exist rely on Flash, Shockwave, and other closed source technologies.
10/25/2004 05:20:59 PM · #59
Originally posted by GoldBerry:

Originally posted by nshapiro:


Personally, you have to ask yourself what you are trying to protect for your site and how much you are willing to spend to protect it.


so, it's not illegal persay, but how to you developers feel about copying code and design outright? Is it bad or just sort of normal?


I always keep the rights to the code I develop. If you have to develop new code every time you do something, it's uneconomical for you and the client. Whether the client also gets rights to the code is another matter.

For standard HTML per se, there's not really anything worth protecting; even if they don't take your HTML code they could replicate your web site look and feel easily.

If you are worried about your investment in the HTML, then put a page on your website offering to sell nonexclusive usage rights to the HTML for a few dollars, and then you may be able to recoup your investment. Then people will either pay you, or will not tell you they are copying it. Since they know you are selling it, they will be more reluctant to copy it, or at least to tell you they are copying it. You will make money, but you will need to support them. Assuming you own rights to the .

But there's lots of good code for the taking out there, under a free license popularly called Open Source (and often more formally called GPL). And it's generally much fancier and more sophisticated than an HTML only site.

As a developer, I think open source is great. There's far too many software patents, GUI patents (like Amazon's one-click patent) and there's far too much copyright paranoia. We can go farther working together. I use all sorts of Open Source tools, code libraries, snippets etc. They become part of a greater whole in your own development kit. Not everything can or should be open source, mainly because we still have to make a living too!

10/25/2004 05:29:12 PM · #60
Awwwww, you don't like Triple X? It looks great on a 61" HDTV with 125 Watts per channel pumping through your 12" amplified subwoofer!!!!!

-danny

Originally posted by just-married:

Originally posted by crabappl3:

I don't even have a good James Bond name like you do..GOLDBERRY.. and, I don't much care for those movies either.

Triple X rocked though!


You were credible until this! Man, have you just fallen from grace.

10/25/2004 05:41:18 PM · #61
Originally posted by cghubbell:

Originally posted by GoldBerry:


I just want to point out that websites can legally be used for inspiration ONLY and that copying code (the skeleton coding) is illegal and unethical (I spoke to my designer).


Speaking of web site etiquette, you'd better check your prominently displayed Ansel quote... His last name is shy of an 's'.


I know, it'll be updated soon. No worries, there's a bunch of stuff on the 'needs to be fixed' list.
10/25/2004 05:45:10 PM · #62
Originally posted by Azrifel:

Originally posted by GoldBerry:

Hey no worries ThatCloud. I don't think people even read Spazzzz's posts anymore...I think his posts cause Eye Cancer.

*constant giggling*

Edit: oh and did I mention Spazzzzmo's posts cause Eye Cancer?


If I could add dpc people to an ignore filter you'd now be on top.

Jeez.


I think we'll all be on someone's 'ignore' list at some point and time in our lives. Figuratively or otherwise. THanks for posting!
10/25/2004 06:13:10 PM · #63
Lori you do have a very nice website design... and you take great photos..
10/25/2004 06:16:45 PM · #64
I've checked your website a few times, and i also like it and think you take nice photos!
10/25/2004 06:37:48 PM · #65
Ah thanks guys! I appreciate the compliments. Thanks again :-)

P.S. Ericlimon great wedding shots, I really like the one on your splash page

Message edited by author 2004-10-25 18:38:46.
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