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10/22/2004 03:16:08 AM · #1 |
I'm thinking of getting a Canon 20D Body or the kit with the 17-85IS lens.
Does anybody have any experience yet with the 17-85IS is it an Ok lens or can I better get a 17-40L |
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10/22/2004 07:14:36 AM · #2 |
Here is a review of the 20d + 17-85 IS combination. CLICK HERE.
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10/22/2004 07:53:32 AM · #3 |
| I read that too, but it is a pre-production review (From memory) Are there any other reviews out there?. I am also interested in that lens. Maybe on a Rebel instead of the standard kit. |
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10/22/2004 07:58:11 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by aKiwi:
I read that too, but it is a pre-production review (From memory) Are there any other reviews out there?. I am also interested in that lens. Maybe on a Rebel instead of the standard kit. |
this is a new reveiw of a camera that he owns personaly... and likes :)
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10/22/2004 08:41:01 AM · #5 |
Oops, my mistake.
Still any more detailed reports or reviews would be interesting. |
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10/22/2004 12:28:13 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by dirkjan_denelzen:
I'm thinking of getting a Canon 20D Body or the kit with the 17-85IS lens.
Does anybody have any experience yet with the 17-85IS is it an Ok lens or can I better get a 17-40L |
I bought the 17-85 with my 20D and love it..the IS allows me so much more scope to get the shots I want.
Most of the recent shots in my portfolio are taken with this lens.
I did submit some test shots in a previous thread for people to compare and the results seemed to indicate that it was close enough in quality to the L glass to make it a good buy.
I have included an example here of a recent picture taken at 1/10 sec handheld using this lens..something I just couldn`t have attempted previously.
Message edited by author 2004-10-22 13:00:16.
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10/23/2004 05:44:06 AM · #7 |
| Thanks Nick for the review link. Gordon the photo you posted is realy fantastic at 1/10 sec. |
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10/23/2004 05:56:22 AM · #8 |
Hi Dirk Jan,
A small review of the lens (along with a bigger review of the 20D) in the Dutch Magazine Foto@Beeld had this to say about the 17-85 IS:
(In Dutch)
"Het objectief vertekent duidelijk in de groothoekstand, wat niet verwonderlijk is. De scherpte in het centrum is goed, maar de hoeken en de randen blijven duidelijk achter. Bij de groothoek zelfs over het hele bereik (Sander: ik vermoed dat ze met bereik hier de diafragmagrootte bedoelen).
Ook laat het objectief duidelijke kleurranden zien (Sander: Chromatische abberatie / paarsverkleuring). Inzoomen en diafragmeren verbetert de situatie wel. Gezien de prijs (€ 799,-) is de geboden kwaliteit redelijk."
Hij is hier te koop voor € 659,-: //www.koopdigitaal.nl (Goede zaak, ben er net nog geweest)
Ze waren te spreken over de bouw, de IS (twee stops) en de USM.
In een DXO test zeggen ze over de Blur: "In het centrum is de scherpte goed, bij de kleine diafragma's (F22 en F32) wordt de scherpte minder door afbuigingen. Met name de hoeken blijven sterk achter."
In de uiterste groothoek is de vignettering zichtbaar bij alle diafragma's. Bij inzoomen is de vignettering alleen bij volle opening te zien."
De vervorming bij 17mm was ook aan de behoorlijke kant, daarna redelijk.
Message edited by author 2004-10-23 05:58:13.
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10/23/2004 06:06:10 AM · #9 |
Translation of the main points for the non-Dutch readers:
* Obvious distortions at wide-angle (expected, no surprise)
* Good sharpness in the center
* Sharpness lacks in the corners and at the edges, at wide-angle even over the whole aperture range (supported by DXO measurements)
* Abberations visible (CA), most obviously at wide-angle and wide-open
* For the price they ask, it is a reasonable lens
* Good build quality
* Silent and fast USM focussing
* IS gets you two stops
* Vignetting at wide-angle at all apertures, at telephoto only when wide-open (Again supported by DXO measurements)
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10/23/2004 07:54:41 AM · #10 |
I would agree with most of what`s said in the review of the lens..especially noticeable is the distortion of anything close at wide angle setting.However, I do think they are being very conservative with their estimate of 2 stops with the IS.
I took some pics from a function last night handheld without flash and the settings were ..
Aperture F4.5
ISO 100
Shutter speed 1/5sec !!
Obviously any motion will be blurred but camera shake is still pretty well accounted for.
640x640 from full size image
Images now removed to make space in my portfolio
Message edited by author 2004-10-25 06:40:47.
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10/23/2004 10:41:22 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by geewhy:
I would agree with most of what`s said in the review of the lens..especially noticeable is the distortion of anything close at wide angle setting. ..snip.. |
That's pretty impressive! I bought the "cheaper" alternative, the Sigma 18-125mm F3.5-5.6 (more range for $250). The main disadvantage I see is that it's noisy when it focuses. Also, it grows longer when you zoom. I have been told this means that it's necessarily unsealed and might be an issue for introducing dust into the camera. Does the Canon 17-85 get longer when you zoom (the Sigma does have internal focusing)?
I just took my first shots with it yesterday. I'll try to post some later. It's definitely not as good as my 70-200/F4L (and did I mention noisy? ;)). But it's not bad. I wanted to get this and then later I thought I might consider the 17-40/F4L for $600. My goal is to have a clean sharp wide angle lens as good as the 70-200 is at long shots!
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10/23/2004 11:19:36 AM · #12 |
| I think the 17-40 would be a better choice if canon ever stops making cameras the 17-85 is compatible with. It only fits 3 cameras now right? But the 17-40 can fit a much wider range of cameras. However I don't know canon's plan for new models, but if the 20D is the last that can take the S's, then that's bad news :-( |
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10/23/2004 01:13:53 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by nshapiro:
Does the Canon 17-85 get longer when you zoom (the Sigma does have internal focusing)? |
Yes Neil, the lens extends when you zoom in.
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10/25/2004 11:40:26 AM · #14 |
| Thanks for the info. I probably go for the 17-40L. Sander bedankt voor de tip. Ik ga zeker een keer bij Foto Konijnenberg langs. Ik heb ze gebeld en mogelijk dat ik m'n huidige 24-85 lens bij ze kan inruilen. |
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