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10/17/2004 09:35:02 AM · #26 |
great image, though would have done poorly in the challenge.
Lets remember that the Title of the challenge IS JUST AS IMPORTANT as the challenge details itself.
This shot is borderline sunset/evening. The sun hasnt fully gone down yet.
If I were you, I would have saved this photo for the October Open Challenge. I would have gave it a 7-8. Good luck.
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As far as Philos is concernced, im pretty sure 99% of the people here can distinguish between "light pollution" and the sun not fully setting.
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10/17/2004 09:58:27 AM · #27 |
Thank you for not forcing me to vote poorly on your sunset shot!
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10/17/2004 10:08:31 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by jmlelii:
As far as Philos is concernced, im pretty sure 99% of the people here can distinguish between "light pollution" and the sun not fully setting. |
It just amazes me that for some challenges realy good photos get voted down for ânot meeting the challengeâ as they clearly are meeting the challenge..
Maybe some people must try to think first before voting downâ¦
Iâm not accusing anybody, but sometimes really good photoâs end up middle of the road because people didnât think about itâ¦
It just saddens me to see some great photos rated so lowâ¦
Listen, this is just my opinion, Iâm not trying to force it on anybody, just wanted to speak my mindâ¦
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10/17/2004 10:17:49 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by tyt2000:
I like the colors and depth. I think you made the right decission by pulling it out, because its simply not a night shot :) |
Night Shot II
Challenge Details: Calling all night owls! Take your best photograph after the sun goes down.
I don't see the problem here.
-Terry
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10/17/2004 10:19:01 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by Philos31:
Maybe some people must try to think first before voting downâ¦
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I think a lot while voting (and I guess most of the people does). The picture is great, just it's not a night shot.
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10/17/2004 10:21:29 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by rennie:
I think a lot while voting (and I guess most of the people does). The picture is great, just it's not a night shot. |
Originally posted by Philos31:
Iâm not accusing anybody, |
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10/17/2004 10:21:34 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by rennie:
Originally posted by Philos31:
Maybe some people must try to think first before voting downâ¦
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I think a lot while voting (and I guess most of the people does). The picture is great, just it's not a night shot. |
Night Shot II
Challenge Details: Calling all night owls! Take your best photograph after the sun goes down.
I don't see the problem here.
-Terry
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10/17/2004 10:24:58 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by Philos31:
It just amazes me that for some challenges realy good photos get voted down for ânot meeting the challengeâ as they clearly are meeting the challenge..
Maybe some people must try to think first before voting downâ¦
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I hear what you're saying but, I think it very important that we be sure that the photo's we rate highly are in fact meeting the challenge. I've seen examples of excellent photography but the photo just does not fit the title of the challenge.
I therefore cannot score it as high as other good photographic examples which do fit the title.
There are too many examples of photo's entered just because its a decent shot and not because the shot was taken with the challenge in mind. Of course there is always going to be the odd one or two "chance" shots which do fit the challenge well but, I think some people just pick their best shot of the week and enter it in the challenge regardless of the challenge title.
By the way, I've left comments on the original photo page. I liked it but I don't hink it would have done well in the Night Shot category, I think you were right to pull it.
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10/17/2004 10:27:00 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by Philos31:
Originally posted by rennie:
I think a lot while voting (and I guess most of the people does). The picture is great, just it's not a night shot. |
Originally posted by Philos31:
Iâm not accusing anybody, |
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Iâm not accusing anybody, but (...)
Let's just stop it. I think if we ask 100 people, whether this picture was taken in the night or evening the answers will be 50/50.
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10/17/2004 10:29:43 AM · #35 |
While many in this thread support the contention this is a night shot, and I am on the border personally, I think you made the right decision. The only thing you had going for you is that this is a members challenge, and members don't seem as nitpicky as the open challenge voters.
So by this thread, this is a night shot?
Well, that's an older shot--I am pretty sure I'll be sitting this one out. I fully expect the winner(s) to be a city panorama, city lights in mostly total darkness, a bridge and water in it. We don't have much of that around here.
It will be interesting, however, to see how many "fake" night shots there are (and whether one can win), and how many indoor shots there are that are taken at night but have nothing to do with night per se.
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10/17/2004 10:32:53 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by rennie:
Originally posted by Philos31:
I don't understand you guy's.
The sun is clearly down and that's what this challenge is all about...
So you are going to vote low if there is still a bit of light in the sky?
I can show you pictures made at midnight looking like day.... |
Did I say I will vote low? What I'm saying, if I have two shots of the same quality or "wow factor" recalled here so often, and one is real "night shot" and the ither one "evening shot" I will give higher mark to the night one. If the evening shot is superb and the night one has some problems, probably I will vote more or less the same.
For what do we need challenge topics? If the topic was "And the sun went down" both types of images will be ok, but it clearly says "NIGHT". |
Oh my GOSH, now we are going to quibble about the definition of NIGHT. Here is the definition we were given:
"Calling all night owls! Take your best photograph after the sun goes down."
It says nothing about no light remaining. It only says after the sun goes down. The sun has clearly gone down! Please go by the definition given. Both shots should start on even ground because they both fit the challenge definition equally.
By the way I like the shot. 8.
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10/17/2004 10:44:26 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by nshapiro:
So by this thread, this is a night shot?
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The answer is the title you gave it.
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10/17/2004 10:46:39 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by rennie:
Originally posted by nshapiro:
So by this thread, this is a night shot?
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The answer is the title you gave it. |
Night Shot II
Challenge Details: Calling all night owls! Take your best photograph after the sun goes down.
I don't see the problem here.
-Terry
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10/17/2004 11:51:25 AM · #39 |
i like this picture.. the layers in the mountains are very nice. i also think the "weed" adds to the picture, not detracts, providing a clear foreground subject.. just my opinion.
in my book this fits the challenge, since the sun is clearly not up anymore.. i would have voted it an 8 or 9. |
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10/17/2004 12:51:22 PM · #40 |
My two cents worth. This is a very nice shot. It clearly meets the rules (see Club Juggle's repeated reminders) and it would have scored at least a 6 or 7 from me (depends on the competition). However, based on this thread I will not be submitting any shots with the sunset still showing. More definitive darkness will be in order. But you may see one of my sunset pics in the Open Challenge.
J.B. |
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10/17/2004 01:28:45 PM · #41 |
this is a good litmus test but the obvious ultimate test would be to run the pic or one like it through the challenge and see how it scores.
any takers?
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10/17/2004 01:50:20 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
this is a good litmus test but the obvious ultimate test would be to run the pic or one like it through the challenge and see how it scores.
any takers? |
I realized that I am not suppose to say anything to possibly give away which photo is mine. Sorry.
Message edited by author 2004-10-17 15:01:27. |
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10/17/2004 02:27:48 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
this is a good litmus test but the obvious ultimate test would be to run the pic or one like it through the challenge and see how it scores.
any takers? |
Ill take that challenge.
(Mental note to self: Beautiful photos with any light remaining in the sky may be voted unfairly and narrow mindedly . . . adjust scoring accordingly.)
I feel sorry for those who have not read this thread and are unprepared for the thrashing that they may receive for pictures that clearly meet the challenge. Good luck to all. |
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10/17/2004 03:29:52 PM · #44 |
| If there are a lot of photos like the one posted here, I'll just vote like they meet the challenge, which means that my interpertation was wrong :) |
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10/17/2004 06:02:40 PM · #45 |
Thanks for the challenge feedback here everyone!
I appreciate all the comments on my work.
I believe my "Sundown" clearly meets the challenge description but I think I made the right decision to pull it. I did enter another shot, but I don't feel any more confident in the new one. Hehehe, I think I need DPC therapy.
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10/17/2004 06:45:59 PM · #46 |
I think people are ignoring you CJ, lol
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10/17/2004 06:49:35 PM · #47 |
Sunsets, are not, at night.
Any sign of the sun's influence in a shot will immediately get a 2 from me, and you can cry and yell and scream about how I'm voting all you want.. but that's life :)
NO SUNSETS..
oy.
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10/17/2004 06:53:25 PM · #48 |
IIRC sunset is defined as when the upper part of the sun appears to touch the horizon. Anything shot after that is by definition after sunset, in my book at least.
BTW if you see the sun setting (most often in high latitudes) over flat horizon (sea, desert etc) sometimes you see a green flash as it disappears over the horizon. I've not seen it myself, but have heard it from respectable sources. Now where did I put that link...... |
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10/17/2004 06:59:13 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by Artyste:
Sunsets, are not, at night.
Any sign of the sun's influence in a shot will immediately get a 2 from me, and you can cry and yell and scream about how I'm voting all you want.. but that's life :)
NO SUNSETS..
oy. |
Good thing I wasn't able to reshoot:
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10/17/2004 07:04:14 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by faidoi:
Originally posted by Artyste:
Sunsets, are not, at night.
Any sign of the sun's influence in a shot will immediately get a 2 from me, and you can cry and yell and scream about how I'm voting all you want.. but that's life :)
NO SUNSETS..
oy. |
Good thing I wasn't able to reshoot:
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well.. that one *might* have pulled a 3 out of me ;)
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