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10/06/2004 02:49:29 PM · #1 |
How about a competition where unribboned people are only able to enter. Most open challenges are won by people who already have ribbons. Wasnt that the whole intention between member challenges and open challenges?
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10/06/2004 03:00:28 PM · #2 |
| But you will also have to understand that some people have won ribbon with their first try. And not all of these people are experienced photographers who might have won awards somewhere else. |
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10/06/2004 03:03:15 PM · #3 |
If this thread doesn't get locked due to being duplicated five billion times, I don't know what thread will!
Not your fault, aerogurl, but it's been suggested a bunch of times.
I don't like the idea, personally, as it makes a ribbon worth less than a ribbon. |
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10/06/2004 03:12:13 PM · #4 |
I think more what you are trying to say is now that there was a masters challenge make a challenge open to only those who couldn't compete in that challenge.
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10/06/2004 03:12:58 PM · #5 |
Aerogurl - I thought the whole point of member challenges was getting people to be members.
Thatcloudthere - How does it make "a ribbon worth less than a ribbon"? Or are you trying to say that winning in that competition would be less prestigious than winning in a regular challenge? If so, are the ribbons acquired in the so called masters challenge anymore prestigious than those won in any other challenge? |
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10/06/2004 03:15:32 PM · #6 |
"So close but no cigar" challenge. Opened to those that have participated in more then 100 challenges but have not yet received a ribbon.
Leaves me out of the challenge, but interesting for those that have been here for a long time.
Message edited by author 2004-10-06 15:16:48. |
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10/06/2004 03:16:28 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Aerogurl - I thought the whole point of member challenges was getting people to be members.
Thatcloudthere - How does it make "a ribbon worth less than a ribbon"? Or are you trying to say that winning in that competition would be less prestigious than winning in a regular challenge? If so, are the ribbons acquired in the so called masters challenge anymore prestigious than those won in any other challenge? |
Yes, winning a ribbon in this type of challenge would be less meaningful (you could use the word 'prestigious') than others because the "cream of the crop" wouldn't be entering. This makes it much easier to win a ribbon, thus not giving it the same meaning as other challenges.
No, winning the Master's challenge wasn't any more prestigious...that would be flawed logic.
Edit: Picture winning gold at the Olympics when you know that none of the top qualifiers in each country were allowed to enter the event you won.
Message edited by author 2004-10-06 15:17:39. |
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10/06/2004 03:21:58 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
This makes it much easier to win a ribbon, thus not giving it the same meaning as other challenges. |
hmmm, no so sure it would be that easy... lots of potential and new commers out there. |
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10/06/2004 03:28:35 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
Yes, winning a ribbon in this type of challenge would be less meaningful (you could use the word 'prestigious') than others because the "cream of the crop" wouldn't be entering. This makes it much easier to win a ribbon, thus not giving it the same meaning as other challenges.
No, winning the Master's challenge wasn't any more prestigious...that would be flawed logic.
Edit: Picture winning gold at the Olympics when you know that none of the top qualifiers in each country were allowed to enter the event you won. |
However, the master's challenge wasn't open to everyone either. You had to win ribbons and be a member not to mention enter so it's also not including all of the "cream of the crop" as you put it.
In the end though I don't think any challenge is more prestigious than another for many reasons. I certainly wouldn't look down on the suggested challenge just because it excluded people who had previously won ribbons. |
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10/06/2004 03:28:40 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by peete:
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
This makes it much easier to win a ribbon, thus not giving it the same meaning as other challenges. |
hmmm, no so sure it would be that easy... lots of potential and new commers out there. |
I agree about new comers, but let's face it...if you remove the ribbon winners it will be much easier to win a ribbon. This seems fairly basic to me. |
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10/06/2004 03:29:38 PM · #11 |
| It wouldn't be much easier. It could be less of a threat I suppose :) |
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10/06/2004 03:30:28 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
In the end though I don't think any challenge is more prestigious than another for many reasons. I certainly wouldn't look down on the suggested challenge just because it excluded people who had previously won ribbons. |
I've never won a ribbon and I wouldn't feel that excited about winning my first ribbon in the challenge suggested in this thread.
I just don't get the point... |
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10/06/2004 03:33:16 PM · #13 |
The point is that we had a challenge for JUST masters. Let's have a challenge for non-masters. Anyone who's won ONE ribbon or less. I'd support that idea, too. I like it. Get a few first-timer ribbons.
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10/06/2004 03:36:26 PM · #14 |
How about this: Pick a challenge. Start a thread in which people pick their most under-rated photo from the 20th percentile or lower -- discuss/explaining rationale required.
People used to start such threads ("I can't believe this scored ...") about single photos. I think it would be interesting for those who find merit in lower-scoring photos to explain their thinking, and provide some exposure for those of us who habitually inhabit the high-numbered pages of the challenge results.. |
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10/06/2004 03:38:45 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by mavrik:
The point is that we had a challenge for JUST masters. Let's have a challenge for non-masters. Anyone who's won ONE ribbon or less. I'd support that idea, too. I like it. Get a few first-timer ribbons.
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M |
But everyone's argument so far has been that "first-timer ribbons" are just as possible either way...
Otherwise, my argument that it's easier to get a ribbon holds up!
Message edited by author 2004-10-06 15:38:59. |
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10/06/2004 03:46:23 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
I think more what you are trying to say is now that there was a masters challenge make a challenge open to only those who couldn't compete in that challenge. |
EXACTLY!!!!!!!
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10/06/2004 03:54:00 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by aerogurl:
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
I think more what you are trying to say is now that there was a masters challenge make a challenge open to only those who couldn't compete in that challenge. |
EXACTLY!!!!!!! |
I'm not sure "getting even" is the best rationale for running a photo challenge ... might make a good topic though! |
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10/06/2004 04:04:52 PM · #18 |
I have mentioned in numerous threads about the grading system for user here.
Either by the type of cameras used?
Or by the average scores in challenges?
Or length of time user has been member/registered user?
I don't think there should be a divided camp tho...just a few challenges for the above 3 categories.
Rather than being judge alongside your peers, you get judged by those of equal stature. If the cream always rises, then that will happen. But it gives encouragement to newbies/oldies/idiots/cranks/freaks/dummies/etc.
Message edited by author 2004-10-06 16:07:21. |
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10/06/2004 10:03:55 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by aerogurl:
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
I think more what you are trying to say is now that there was a masters challenge make a challenge open to only those who couldn't compete in that challenge. |
EXACTLY!!!!!!! |
I'm not sure "getting even" is the best rationale for running a photo challenge ... might make a good topic though! |
I dont see it at all as "getting even"
If we can have a Masters Challenge, why not have an Amature Challenge?
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10/06/2004 11:12:04 PM · #20 |
| Aren't there other threads on this? It just seems we've hashed through this and everyone's made their opinion known on this issue in at least 4 or 5 other threads... |
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