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 09/29/2004 03:21:59 PM · #26
In case it hasn't been mentioned...Maintain eye contact. It's the most respectful thing you could do with any person especially nude women.
 09/29/2004 03:26:46 PM · #27
actually, I'd say GoldBerry chose her words pretty wisely as not to call anyone a name or be rude. Perhaps her opinion regarding the job wasn't asked for, but I don't think it warranted a generalization on of the entire social status of the united states.

but either way, i believe no harm was intended from either side :)

Originally posted by Gil P:
perhaps you should avoid name calling yourself.
09/29/2004 03:28:12 PM · #28
So according to some people part of your brain just die after the marriage. Even if you were photographing or painting nudes all your life and the minute your get married you become a different person and you start painting or photographing 3" thick steel!
 09/29/2004 03:29:13 PM · #29
Originally posted by hopper:
actually, I'd say GoldBerry chose her words pretty wisely as not to call anyone a name or be rude. Perhaps her opinion regarding the job wasn't asked for, but I don't think it warranted a generalization on of the entire social status of the united states.

but either way, i believe no harm was intended from either side :)

Originally posted by Gil P:
perhaps you should avoid name calling yourself.


Well I find equating WORKING with a fetish photographer with PORNOGRAPHY to be quite insulting. chosing words carefully does not make them any less aggressive...just more subtle.
09/29/2004 03:48:22 PM · #30
Originally posted by grigrigirl:
I should hope that any marriage has enough trust and depth to realize a simple physical reaction..if any would occur....were simply that. A natural carnal inclination that means nothing more than the milisecond of ego satisfaction one gets from social flirtation. People are way too insecure when it comes to this. Not to mention american culture making nudity a taboo of sexuality. Geez people...its a human body...a rather beautiful wonderful complex marvel. Porn is business...like stripping and weddings and banking. There is place for everything and a market for everything. I wish americans would get beyond their bible thumping social conditioning.


Unfiltered opinion, straight from the horses mouth, which I, personally, find refreshing and, really, quite sensitive in the context she created. Repression is what I'd consider perverse, anything contra naturam. I welcome grigirgirl's expression, because it's demonstratively motivated by compassion, and rattles that which fetters.
09/29/2004 04:04:09 PM · #31
I agree totally with that....insecurities, missconceptions, repression, denial.

I got my feathers ruffled because I take issue with passive agressive comments hidden in subtle 'statements'.

Message edited by author 2004-09-29 16:08:22.
 09/29/2004 04:26:22 PM · #32
LOL

*blah blah blah*

edited: i changed my mind about making a counter-statement - hence the blah-blahs

Message edited by author 2004-09-29 16:55:47.
 09/29/2004 04:49:10 PM · #33
very humourous comment :)

Originally posted by xion:
So according to some people part of your brain just die after the marriage. Even if you were photographing or painting nudes all your life and the minute your get married you become a different person and you start painting or photographing 3" thick steel!

09/29/2004 04:56:17 PM · #34
Oh hey BobsterLobster; what was the outcome?

09/29/2004 05:01:09 PM · #35
Here's your original statement, Goldberry:

"Yeah okay most of you men will say "prude" and shrug this off..but for a married man to be working with a fetish photographer..well sounds less like art and more like porn."

Can you possibly see how this would hurt someone's feelings? Someone who is married and yet is into this type of artistic expression, but doesn't see themselves or want to see themselves as a pornographer? To be labelled as one? Ouch. That's pretty harsh.

When stated that harshly, and given the fact that you yourself have proudly stated in many forums that you are strongly religious and that your views and opinions derive in large part from those religious beliefs, does it seem so out of place that someone would direct their comments at the very seeming source from which your personal intolerance seems to spring?

It doesn't seem that surprising to me when a person goes around hurting people's feelings and justifying it by saying 'hey it's my beliefs folks, so deal with it' that other people might eventually have a strong reaction to it and call them on it.

Anyway, I'm not trying to pick on you, just show you how these little heated exchanges might arise and that you might possiblu have a little bit of responsibility for your part in them.

Kollin
 09/29/2004 05:03:57 PM · #36
I'll be going down in a couple of weeks time... I'm just trying to stay out of the way of all the fuss I seem to have created!
I do appreciate all the advice here, very useful.
I think that we all need to live and let live... and not be too defensive when we feel our values are attacked. This seems to be on all sides here. I know I'm also guilty of this all the time in the forums so I'm not saying I'm above this.
I am really looking forward to it though... I've arranged a photoshoot with an actor friend for his portfolio a couple of days afterwards, so I'm hoping I'll pick up a lot of tips for my first 'formal' portrait session.
Thanks guys,
Bob
 09/29/2004 05:18:38 PM · #37
Listen Bob. You have a great opportunity. There will be many people here who would even be jealous of it.
Get there and act like you do everyday. As for the model/photographer relationship - it's about how well you get along. If you feel comfortable, you can make the model feel comfortable too and it goes both ways. The final product is a joint affort.
Don't look at the model as your subject. You are going to create something together. Best of luck to you.
09/29/2004 05:20:41 PM · #38
on another note,

how does your wife feel about you shooting other people naked?

just curious.

anyone have comments on this for that matter?
 09/29/2004 05:26:47 PM · #39
Thanks!
Saintaugust, my wife is absolutely fine with it... I think she's relieved that I'm going to stop pestering her to be my model all the time. I also think that she's looking forward to my picking up lots of tips so that I can shoot her better.
Like I said, we trust each other completely... so I don't think jealousy is a problem.
 09/29/2004 05:38:42 PM · #40
Good job Bobster :-)

Glad it's working out so far :-)
 09/29/2004 05:42:08 PM · #41
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
Thanks!
Saintaugust, my wife is absolutely fine with it... I think she's relieved that I'm going to stop pestering her to be my model all the time. I also think that she's looking forward to my picking up lots of tips so that I can shoot her better.
Like I said, we trust each other completely... so I don't think jealousy is a problem.


thats good.
09/29/2004 05:42:09 PM · #42
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
Here's your original statement, Goldberry:

"Yeah okay most of you men will say "prude" and shrug this off..but for a married man to be working with a fetish photographer..well sounds less like art and more like porn."

Can you possibly see how this would hurt someone's feelings? Someone who is married and yet is into this type of artistic expression, but doesn't see themselves or want to see themselves as a pornographer? To be labelled as one? Ouch. That's pretty harsh.

When stated that harshly, and given the fact that you yourself have proudly stated in many forums that you are strongly religious and that your views and opinions derive in large part from those religious beliefs, does it seem so out of place that someone would direct their comments at the very seeming source from which your personal intolerance seems to spring?

It doesn't seem that surprising to me when a person goes around hurting people's feelings and justifying it by saying 'hey it's my beliefs folks, so deal with it' that other people might eventually have a strong reaction to it and call them on it.

Anyway, I'm not trying to pick on you, just show you how these little heated exchanges might arise and that you might possiblu have a little bit of responsibility for your part in them.

Kollin


Now I'm someone who never takes responsibility for ones actions.

Tell me more about my own self??

LOL you've made so many assumptions about my character indepth. I take tons of responsibility since nobody makes me say or do the things I do - just me. If your feelings were hurt, I'm sorry, it wasn't a personal attack but the post I won't apologize for. I dont' think [think being the operable word] even hinted at "hey it's my beliefs folks, deal with it"...okay I get you are/were fumed by the forum, but will you now take responsibility for maybe over reacting? Maybe???? ....????...Hmm?

Edit: to be a wee less snotty, but hey...

Message edited by author 2004-09-29 17:56:04.
 09/29/2004 05:47:06 PM · #43
well, one thing for sure this one statement says is all:

"but for a married man to be working with a fetish photographer..well sounds less like art and more like porn"

If you can't see that this is a direct attack to anyone who as an interest in this type of photography....what will?

Message edited by author 2004-09-29 17:48:34.
 09/29/2004 05:50:52 PM · #44
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Message edited by author 2004-09-29 17:51:43.
 09/29/2004 05:53:09 PM · #45
Originally posted by Gil P:
well, one thing for sure this one statement says is all:

"but for a married man to be working with a fetish photographer..well sounds less like art and more like porn"

If you can't see that this is a direct attack to anyone who as an interest in this type of photography....what will?


....I said I was sorry if it was offensive, wasn't meant to be a calculated attack as you've pointed out many-a-time. Can you PUHLEASE let it go? This isn't Days of our Lives and I don't run around thinking of ways to piss off DPC'ers...

wow, I'm sounding as passive as you made me out to be earlier. Maybe I am just the creature you painted me.
Nah.

Edit: Bobster, it's not your fault ;-)

Message edited by author 2004-09-29 17:57:36.
 09/29/2004 05:56:36 PM · #46
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
Originally posted by Gil P:
well, one thing for sure this one statement says is all:

"but for a married man to be working with a fetish photographer..well sounds less like art and more like porn"

If you can't see that this is a direct attack to anyone who as an interest in this type of photography....what will?


....I said I was sorry if it was offensive, wasn't meant to be a calculated attack as you've so happily pointed out many-a-time. Can you PUHLEASE let it go? This isn't Days of our Lives and I don't run around thinking of ways to piss off DPC'ers..sounds like you're having a blast trying to make it in to something it wasn't meant to be so I guess blah blah blah to me.

Edit: Bobster, it's not your fault ;-)


cmon folks, she's entitled to her opinion.

and going through the 'nude' gallery on this site a couple of times, I see a definate separation between porn and art. some of those shots are walking the line.. and they don't do anything for me.

it's all in the intention of the artist.
09/29/2004 05:59:45 PM · #47
on one hand you say ""I said I was sorry if it was offensive" but on the other you say "the post I won't apologize for", I don't want to drag this out... but that's a bit contradictory.
 09/29/2004 06:01:11 PM · #48
Geez - Give it a rest!
 09/29/2004 06:01:40 PM · #49
Some people don't really have an issue yet there are things that make them feel they should and in the end they end up being confused and taking absolute gobshite.
 09/29/2004 06:03:09 PM · #50
This is my last post on the subject: please read carefully -

I said I was sorry if it was offensive as it was not meant to be....but I wasn't sorry for the post since I was not being mean [ahem. ..unlike someone I know....errr]

Get it???? Get it???

Don't answer that.

LoL
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