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09/25/2004 01:11:12 AM · #1 |
to leave a comment on a photograph asking the photographer to give me his/her opinion on what makes their photograph fit the challenge. Maybe it would help me give them a more accurate vote. As most of you know a lot of photographers interrupted this challenge differently. The problem with placing such a comment is if they private message me I will know whose photograph it is. Is there a way around asking and getting a reply that would not revel the photographer?
Is anyone else having this problem? I just want to be fair in voting, if that's possible.
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09/25/2004 01:17:26 AM · #2 |
maybe it's not right, but i did leave a comment to someone in the current challenge because i didn't know what the photo was of. i liked the composition, and the tones, but i only had an inkling as to what the subject was. the photographer PM'd me and told me what it was, which was sort of what i thought it was. i am planning on going back to the photo, though. the problem was, the subject is not something i see everyday. once i found out that it was-- in a general sense-- what i thought it was, i do intend to go make sure my original vote was appropriate.
had it turned out to be something that i DO see everyday and AM familiar with, but it just wasn't photographed well, i wouldn't even think about tweaking the score. but i'm not going to hold my lack of knowledge against a photographer. just my opinion, and i'm SURE people will disagree.
Message edited by author 2004-09-25 01:18:15.
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09/25/2004 08:53:57 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by SDW65:
to leave a comment on a photograph asking the photographer to give me his/her opinion on what makes their photograph fit the challenge. Maybe it would help me give them a more accurate vote. As most of you know a lot of photographers interrupted this challenge differently. The problem with placing such a comment is if they private message me I will know whose photograph it is. Is there a way around asking and getting a reply that would not revel the photographer?
Is anyone else having this problem? I just want to be fair in voting, if that's possible. |
No, it's not ok. It's not against the rules. It's not illegal in either Basic or Advanced Rules challenges. It's not hard to find people who think it is acceptable. It's just not a fair approach to voting. It may make you feel like your vote on that entry is more accurate but your overall voting for the entire challenge will become less accurate as it becomes unbalanced. You are giving one participant an advantage that their opponents do not have; unless, of course, you are going to exchange PMs with everyone who has entered that challenge. Just as you say photographers interpret the topic differently so do voters. It is the photographer's job to convince the voters that their entry meets the challenge topic. The tools to use for this are the image and it's title. If the photographer does the job adequately there should be no need for further explanation. If the entry can not convince the voter, -- on it's own without the help of explanation, and without revealing the author, -- then the photographer has not met the challenge and should suffer in the voting.
If you really want to be fair in voting let each entry stand on it's own merit. |
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09/25/2004 11:08:50 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
Just as you say photographers interpret the topic differently so do voters. It is the photographer's job to convince the voters that their entry meets the challenge topic. The tools to use for this are the image and it's title. If the photographer does the job adequately there should be no need for further explanation. If the entry can not convince the voter, -- on it's own without the help of explanation, and without revealing the author, -- then the photographer has not met the challenge and should suffer in the voting.
If you really want to be fair in voting let each entry stand on it's own merit. |
Totally agree. this is a photography competition and your photograph and the title should appeal to the voters and let them understand what it stands for, if it fails to do, its not a good photograph. |
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09/25/2004 12:20:14 PM · #5 |
Personally, I don't see any problen with this. If the photographer wishes to remain anonymous all he/she has to do is not reply.
-Terry
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09/25/2004 01:36:01 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
...It is the photographer's job to convince the voters that their entry meets the challenge topic. The tools to use for this are the image and it's title. If the photographer does the job adequately there should be no need for further explanation. If the entry can not convince the voter, -- on it's own without the help of explanation, and without revealing the author, -- then the photographer has not met the challenge and should suffer in the voting... |
It is, in my view, a photographer's job to take pitchers. When he enters one into a challenge, he is asked to choose one which meets the challenge topic. When he fulfills both obligations, the only thing left to criticize is the quality of the pitcher.
It is not his job to educate voters (unless he chooses to do so via the nature of his presentation). Voters may or may not be qualified to judge whether a particular a image meets the challenge, which can be especially true, when the topicality of that photo is exceedingly well met (i.e. when it lends itself to a creative or evocative interpretation, a circumstance which usually separates a good shot from a great one).
To ask a photographer to explain a photo, is akin to asking a tree to explain its leaf. To ask a voter would be like asking your baker to explain fuel-cell technology to a mechanic, unless, of course, you'd be willing to purchase a car with a baked engine.
Message edited by author 2004-09-25 16:45:45.
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09/25/2004 02:34:35 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Personally, I don't see any problen with this. If the photographer wishes to remain anonymous all he/she has to do is not reply.
-Terry |
I agree.
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