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09/22/2004 12:08:29 AM · #1
Well, it's nice to see that real football prevailed over this other kind of football...you know, the american kind with the throwing and the hands and stuff!

Sorry, it's the deutschland blood in me...

;0)

Message edited by author 2004-09-22 00:09:01.
09/22/2004 12:10:12 AM · #2
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

Well, it's nice to see that real football prevailed over this other kind of football...you know, the american kind with the throwing and the hands and stuff!

Sorry, it's the deutschland blood in me...

;0)


You're talking about soccer, right? ;-)
09/22/2004 12:18:13 AM · #3
The "original" name of the sport is AsSOCCiation Football ... that's where the "other" name comes from. American Football derives from it via Rugby ... it wasn't until quite late in the "modern" era that things like the forward pass were allowed. Personally, I'd like to see them bring back the drop-kick.
09/22/2004 12:26:57 AM · #4
Originally posted by GeneralE:

The "original" name of the sport is AsSOCCiation Football ... that's where the "other" name comes from. American Football derives from it via Rugby ... it wasn't until quite late in the "modern" era that things like the forward pass were allowed. Personally, I'd like to see them bring back the drop-kick.


GeneralE, you're encyclopedia-brain never ceases to amaze me!

So answer this:

Why does Coke taste waaay better in a can than it does in a bottle?
09/22/2004 12:32:19 AM · #5
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:


Why does Coke taste waaay better in a can than it does in a bottle?


Did you ever have one of the old steel cans... I still think it's better from the bottle.
09/22/2004 12:34:25 AM · #6
Originally posted by dwolff:

Originally posted by thatcloudthere:


Why does Coke taste waaay better in a can than it does in a bottle?


Did you ever have one of the old steel cans... I still think it's better from the bottle.


Oh, those ice cold 10oz bottles! That's the best. Now I'm thirsty..thanks!
09/22/2004 12:35:27 AM · #7
Originally posted by dwolff:

Originally posted by thatcloudthere:


Why does Coke taste waaay better in a can than it does in a bottle?


Did you ever have one of the old steel cans... I still think it's better from the bottle.


I do remember that...but I don't remember the taste. Now, with the Al cans, I much prefer the cans over the bottle.

But even better than both of those is the syrup mix fountain drink you get at fast-food places...

Edit: Very important! I meant the plastic bottles!

Here's my order of preference:

Syrup-mix
Glass bottle
Aluminum Can
Plastic bottle
?Steel Can?


Message edited by author 2004-09-22 00:36:59.
09/22/2004 12:42:11 AM · #8
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Football derives from it via Rugby ... it wasn't until quite late in the "modern" era that things like the forward pass were allowed. Personally, I'd like to see them bring back the drop-kick.


Too right!

I can honestly say (as a life long New England Patriots fan - and yes, that includes the years Before Belicheck and the rise of the Bledsoe Dynasty) that Watching Johnny Wilkenson gut the Aussies might have been the culmination of one of the best sporting events I have ever watched.

The drop kick would certainly add a new dimension to American Football. But, Rugby would still be a better sport.

09/22/2004 12:49:03 AM · #9
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

GeneralE, you're encyclopedia-brain never ceases to amaze me!

So answer this:

Why does Coke taste waaay better in a can than it does in a bottle?

Ahhh ... even I don't know the "secret" formula for Coke, other than they (mostly) took the cocaine out of it by the early 1900's. I do have some clues towards the composition of its main competitor, however:

Pepsi Generation?


Soccer I know about because the first "major" US pro league started up when I was in high school, so we all got caught up in the history and stuff ... I even got to see Pele once in Oakland while he was still playing for Santos (Brazil).
09/22/2004 12:49:31 AM · #10
Let's stay on topic please...if you'd like to talk about football, please start another thread entitled - oh...
um...hmmm....
09/22/2004 12:55:21 AM · #11
Originally posted by soccerdad:

The drop kick would certainly add a new dimension to American Football. But, Rugby would still be a better sport.

It would add an OLD dimension ... I think the use of a "holder" on field-goal attempts dates from the 1930s or '40s.

I've taken Isaac to one college football game ... I'll have to check out the rugby schedule, especially since our local side (UC) is a traditional powerhouse in the NCAA-level game.
09/22/2004 12:57:26 AM · #12
Sorry, just had to say something about bottle vs can as it was a big subject in family and I heard waaaay to many debates on this subject.
09/22/2004 01:09:14 AM · #13
Originally posted by GeneralE:

...It would add an OLD dimension ... I think the use of a "holder" on field-goal attempts dates from the 1930s or '40s.


You are (of course) correct. Three things to remember if you go watch a game:

1) The referee is LAW incarnate. Discussion is irrelevant and wastes time, or gets you penalized (a good system really.)
2) Loosing "it" forward, regardless of intent, is BAD.
3) Make sure that you take care of all nature calls before and after the respective halfs. As great a game as it is, they really haven't figured out the real objective behind commercial interuptions.

Best,

09/22/2004 01:14:49 AM · #14
"Talk surfaced about forming a state-wide league to end spiraling salaries brought about by constant bidding for players and to write universal rules for the game."

--History of the NFL, entry for 1904
//www.nfl.com

The forward pass was legalized in 1906.

I was going to mention that I'd heard once that Jim Thorpe had (drop-)kicked a 75-yard field goal once, when I came across this photo of him (kicking?) at the NFL site and some other interesting info ... circa 1915


Jim Thorpe

"Often he would demonstrate his kicking prowess during halftimes by placekicking field goals from the 50-yard line, then turning and dropkicking through the opposite goal post."
09/22/2004 01:17:53 AM · #15
Originally posted by soccerdad:

3) Make sure that you take care of all nature calls before and after the respective halfs. As great a game as it is, they really haven't figured out the real objective behind commercial interuptions.

Best,

At UC Santa Cruz (a long time ago anyway), the rugby club's motto was "One keg before the game, one keg during the game, one keg after the game."

Of course, this is the same school which adopted as its mascot the Banana Slug.
09/22/2004 01:27:04 AM · #16
Originally posted by GeneralE:

The "original" name of the sport is AsSOCCiation Football ... that's where the "other" name comes from.


Then why don't they call it "assball"?


09/22/2004 01:34:47 AM · #17
Originally posted by PhilipDyer:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

The "original" name of the sport is AsSOCCiation Football ... that's where the "other" name comes from.


Then why don't they call it "assball"?

They held that debate and vote before I was born, although I agree they seem to have overlooked the obvious choice. Maybe the marketing department had a hand in it, mistakenly feeling it might limit their ability to effectively communicate the sport's attractions (hunks in shorts) to the spectating public.
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