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09/08/2004 01:22:41 PM · #1 |
i am currently using the default winxp image viewer. I have just tried irfanview. it does not support auto rotating pics canptured in potrait orientation from my camera.
I am looking for 'light' software that do not eat too much peecee resources.
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09/08/2004 01:25:15 PM · #2 |
Photoshop does it...or elements
Message edited by author 2004-09-08 13:25:35. |
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09/08/2004 01:26:54 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by agwright:
Photoshop does it...or elements |
that i know, but i do not want to use PS to browse through few hundred pics. Also PS is resource hungry
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09/08/2004 01:54:52 PM · #4 |
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09/08/2004 02:40:19 PM · #5 |
i'd second acdsee, plus it supports Canon RAW . photoshop album does it as well.
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09/08/2004 03:53:28 PM · #6 |
I take it you do not like the ZoomBrowser that came with the Canon camera?
Be careful what program you use I was told even the default XP viewer can damage the Exif data. |
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09/08/2004 05:44:58 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by jxpfeer:
i'd second acdsee, plus it supports Canon RAW . photoshop album does it as well. |
I use Acdsee6 and I can't get it to do it how does it work? |
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09/08/2004 05:51:02 PM · #8 |
you probablly wont want to do that, because the exif data is changed and if your original photo is needed at this site you will be DQ'ed because your original image was edited, or it will appear to be edited.
James
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09/08/2004 05:53:04 PM · #9 |
I've been working with Cam2PC lately, and just recently found out it can, though it's not exactly obvious. I don't remember the exact menu item, but you have to transfer the picture, then select them in the Cam2PC browser window, right click, and I think select "transform" from the menu. Goes through the selected photos and, if they were taken in portrait format (based on EXIF), rotates them.
I was pretty disappointed when I got my G5. I thought the orientation sensor was going to cause the pictures to immediately get recorded in portrait. Its kinda lame you have to go through an extra step, no matter how simple it is. |
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09/08/2004 05:53:12 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Andelain:
Originally posted by jxpfeer:
i'd second acdsee, plus it supports Canon RAW . photoshop album does it as well. |
I use Acdsee6 and I can't get it to do it how does it work? |
I have ACDSee 4 and all you need to do is set the auto rotation in your camera and the program will see it and rotate automatically. No setting to set in the program itself. |
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09/08/2004 05:55:27 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by jab119:
you probablly wont want to do that, because the exif data is changed and if your original photo is needed at this site you will be DQ'ed because your original image was edited, or it will appear to be edited. |
If this is in response to the auto rotation ACDSee doesn't change anything in the file. It simply reads the orientation information the camera puts into the EXIF so it is completely legal. |
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09/08/2004 05:55:54 PM · #12 |
| Doesn't ACDSee only display it rotated, but not actually rotate and update the file? I found this irritating, to be browsing the pictures and have them displayed correctly, then to open them in PS7 and have them loaded back in landscape. (Or maybe it was Breezebrowser. I know one of them did this.) |
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09/08/2004 05:58:09 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Originally posted by Andelain:
Originally posted by jxpfeer:
i'd second acdsee, plus it supports Canon RAW . photoshop album does it as well. |
I use Acdsee6 and I can't get it to do it how does it work? |
I have ACDSee 4 and all you need to do is set the auto rotation in your camera and the program will see it and rotate automatically. No setting to set in the program itself. |
It don't work like that in version 6, at least mine don't. If i need to see the pics rotated I have to fire up photoshop which can get a bit annoying |
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09/08/2004 06:08:49 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by ScottK:
Doesn't ACDSee only display it rotated, but not actually rotate and update the file? I found this irritating, to be browsing the pictures and have them displayed correctly, then to open them in PS7 and have them loaded back in landscape. (Or maybe it was Breezebrowser. I know one of them did this.) |
As pointed out by jab119, resaving (updating) a rotated file will mess with the EXIF; it is no longer an original file and can't be validated if submitted as a proof file. Rotation for viewing *only* is the behavior you want[ a program to have. You want to be able to browse with the pics rotated to their intended orientation, but you don't want the files changed. When you're ready to edit (a copy) of your file, the one extra step to rotate it is a small inconveninece.
It sure would be nice if the camera autorotated by losslessly rotating the JPG information, but this would require significanltly more processing, and you wouldn't want to deal with the slowdown in operation this would cause. I could see this working if the camera did the rotations in the background during idle periods. That would require another level of sophistication in the camera OS, however. Although it seems like so simple a thing, it's not simple at all.
To reiterate, don't use a viewer that autorotates by updating the file on your original files! You will be DQ'd if you need to submit a file for proof and it's been re-saved by one of these programs.
Message edited by author 2004-09-08 18:10:26. |
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09/08/2004 06:13:58 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by ScottK:
Doesn't ACDSee only display it rotated, but not actually rotate and update the file? I found this irritating, to be browsing the pictures and have them displayed correctly, then to open them in PS7 and have them loaded back in landscape. (Or maybe it was Breezebrowser. I know one of them did this.) |
Must be Breezebrowser, ACDSee displays it rotated and when it is opened in PS it is also displayed rotated. The reason I don't use the feature is because PS treats that rotation as a change on its end and always asks you if you want to save the image even if the only thing you've done is open it. Quite annoying. |
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09/08/2004 06:25:15 PM · #16 |
| I use Irfanview. You can rotate an image and save it without losing EXIF. You need to have the JPG Lossless Operations plug-in intstalled. |
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09/08/2004 06:29:50 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Pug-H:
I use Irfanview. You can rotate an image and save it without losing EXIF. You need to have the JPG Lossless Operations plug-in intstalled. |
You may not lose the EXIF, however it wil be altered, and we cannot tell if the rotation was the only thing done to the file. In other words, it's edited, and cannot be validated as an original. |
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09/08/2004 06:33:27 PM · #18 |
iView will do everything you are asking about and much more. If your camera imbeds the orientation in EXIF, it will rotate them.
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09/08/2004 09:02:01 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by Pug-H:
I use Irfanview. You can rotate an image and save it without losing EXIF. You need to have the JPG Lossless Operations plug-in intstalled. |
You may not lose the EXIF, however it wil be altered, and we cannot tell if the rotation was the only thing done to the file. In other words, it's edited, and cannot be validated as an original. |
Well, that's confusing, as the rules state, in Post-shot Adjustments, a photo editing program may be used to modify the whole image, including sizing/rotating. Well, just so long as one has kept the unadulterated original, it should be okay, I guess. |
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