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08/11/2004 01:51:31 AM · #1 |
Well, I have finished voting in the Vanishing Point challenge. At least my preliminaries are done. I'll adjust here and there throughout the week and add comments. Never blasted through all at once before. I think I have carpal tunnel syndrome (hey, is that a vanishing point?)!
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08/11/2004 01:56:26 AM · #2 |
I did the same .. my thoughts the whole time "Will it ever end???" Yet again, another vanishing point ;) |
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08/11/2004 03:20:31 AM · #3 |
I'm always a little concerned when I see a thread bragging about having voted on all images so close to the start of a challenge. Lets see there are 253 entries and you voted on them in 111 minutes (or less since you had to type this thread also...) meaning that you took a whole 26.32 seconds each to enjoy the beauty of the shot and come up with a meaningful vote before moving on to give the next shot 26.32 seconds. Good work!
Edited to add: I forgot the download time for each shot. You were faster than I thought!
Message edited by author 2004-08-11 03:22:14.
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08/11/2004 03:24:33 AM · #4 |
TooCools got a point. Kinda scary to have your photo that you spent so much time on judged in less than 26 seconds. |
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08/11/2004 03:29:41 AM · #5 |
First of all, I'm not bragging .. I'm just commenting. Second, the reason I usually vote all the pictures all at once is just to get a look at all of them and scope out the challenge. Throughout the voting week, I will go more seriously through the images and change the vote (if needed)and/or add comments. Its just the way I personally do it. ;) I see where you may have the concern, but there's really no harm in it, its just a different way of doing it. |
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08/11/2004 03:36:20 AM · #6 |
Oh well. It happens. And I did say I'd make adjustments later, which I invariably do. And I haven't done comments yet, which obviously take time.
Perhaps someone could tell me the amount of time I'm supposed to be spending on each image. Assuming TooCool's math is correct (I don't want to wake up the Math Guy) then I spent just under *two hours* on the judging. That doesn't seem like I'm giving it short shrift. I'll probably add another hour before the week's out making adjustments and writing comments. And further assuming the average WAS 26 seconds, what was the range? I mean, an image that gets a 1 doesn't take 26 seconds to determine, which gives me more time, on average, for other images. When it gets to be more than 3 hours juding a challenge, that seems like plenty to me.
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08/11/2004 03:39:26 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by boomer: Oh well. It happens. And I did say I'd make adjustments later, which I invariably do. And I haven't done comments yet, which obviously take time.
Perhaps someone could tell me the amount of time I'm supposed to be spending on each image. Assuming TooCool's math is correct (I don't want to wake up the Math Guy) then I spent just under *two hours* on the judging. That doesn't seem like I'm giving it short shrift. I'll probably add another hour before the week's out making adjustments and writing comments. And further assuming the average WAS 26 seconds, what was the range? I mean, an image that gets a 1 doesn't take 26 seconds to determine, which gives me more time, on average, for other images. When it gets to be more than 3 hours juding a challenge, that seems like plenty to me. |
Hey, as long as you don't adjust mine down I don't care how long it takes to vote :D
Message edited by author 2004-08-11 03:39:45. |
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08/11/2004 03:42:18 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by d14: TooCools got a point. Kinda scary to have your photo that you spent so much time on judged in less than 26 seconds. |
true, but it is an average of 26 seconds. i daresay some shots warrant a look at for a period of double, even three times that. the odd one or two might warrant a good oogle and absorbing for perhaps 5 minutes. put in a comment, and it could be even more! but then, there is the other end of the scale where a picture might seriously be so bad, you might want to get it off your screen in no time at all. granted, the quality of stuff this week is abnormally superior (a clearly defined challenge description helps improve quality i think, none of that fluffy philisophical serendipity stuff) and so far i've gone through 10% and have yet to award anything less than a 5 (and that's being presented with images randomly coming up and not picking and choosing them). but, say, if a song is one the radio (say 3.5 minutes) would many people really honestly say they would always vote on less than seven pictures?
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08/11/2004 04:03:52 AM · #9 |
I do realize that a lot of people vote this way, especially in the open challenges. You go through them all at once then go back through and sift them into place. I guess I'm just concerned that newer members could see a thread like this and think it's cool to race through the voting. And what if you don't get a chance to go back through them and sift them? I'd rather have a more thought out vote on MY record...
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08/11/2004 04:12:44 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by TooCool: I do realize that a lot of people vote this way, especially in the open challenges. You go through them all at once then go back through and sift them into place. I guess I'm just concerned that newer members could see a thread like this and think it's cool to race through the voting. And what if you don't get a chance to go back through them and sift them? I'd rather have a more thought out vote on MY record... |
I hear what you're saying, and I understand your point of view, and I'm not trying to engage in a debate. But let's, for argument's sake, posit that I voted an image a 5 in my first pass which later I would have raised to a 7 or lowered to a 3 (the latter is doubtful; the former is possible). Let's further say I was unable to go back to change my vote because my mouse-hand was smashed in a doorway, rendering it impossible to use my computer for a week. Finally, let us suppose that 300 people entered a vote on this particular image.
Once again, I'm not trying to wake the math guy, but I'm pretty sure he would suggest that my error of omission would make an incredibly small difference to this particular image's final score.
Beyond this, there being such things as bell shaped curves, there must be participants on this site who spend, on average, five minutes per image, and who perhaps have even far more insight, wisdom, and expertise than I on what a good image is or isn't. So my guess is that my pace in voting on challenges is probably within one standard deviation of the median, well within an acceptable range, and hardly likely to make an outstanding image miss a ribbon.
Based on this rambling, I should probably go to bed! <> lol
Message edited by author 2004-08-11 04:14:14.
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