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08/09/2004 02:14:29 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by dwterry:
Obviously I'm outnumbered on thinking #4 is the worst pose in the lot. :-)
But I have an open mind. So everyone, teach me... what makes the pose in #4 so great? |
I'm at work so I have little time to comment but in a rapid fashion:
Following rules of composition can be a useful way to create good or maybe even great photos. In this example Chris used some rules to his advantage (shallow DoF to separate subject from background and smooth edges on female subjects to preserve some feminine feel in their outlines). He also overlooked some "rules" either by choice or just from trying to get this shot when he saw something, who besides Chris really knows why. The subject's nose breaks the outline of her cheek, thats normally a no-no. In this shot it actually seems, IMO, to add a personality quirk that helps set this model apart from other young models: she's pretty but still looks "real". The slightly rolled shoulders would be distracting and perhaps even offensive to some but the beautiful use of duotone allows the viewer to appreciate the smooth contour of a young woman's back and shoulders; the mole in the mid-left area of her back is yet another homage to young, supple bodies that are still "flawed". Normally you don't want to shoot up into a model's face as it can give the impression that your are looking up the subject's nose. Chris caught this angle well without producing too harsh a difference in shadows across the cheek and under the eye; yes there is a shadow there but it seems, IMO, to create tone and depth rather than blocking out facial details. Finally he really seemed to nail getting the definition and clarity in the eyes without making the hair too sharp. You can pick out single strands of hair on the model but they are not distracting to me and I notice the model's eyes over the hairs so I like his choice in sharpening.
That's a quick treatment of what I like about this image. It isn't just the technical "you got this right and that right and the other thing right". To me this image generates a feeling of glamour reminiscent of Hollywood glam starlets. That's what a great photograph is about to me; making a compelling image that excite a reaction in people.
Kev
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08/09/2004 02:28:16 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by dwterry:
Obviously I'm outnumbered on thinking #4 is the worst pose in the lot. :-)
But I have an open mind. So everyone, teach me... what makes the pose in #4 so great?
The things that really disturb me about #4 are:
- The pose looks very unnatural / uncomfortable
- It makes her back almost look hunchback
- It makes her foreground arm look unnaturally skinny
- The strange body position takes away from her face
I do like the eyes and the face. So, for me, a different position of the body while keeping her look would be great. And I *do* like the b&w, the skin texture, the overall tones.
So what does everyone else see in this picture? I'm here to learn... |
I agree, not the most flattering of poses. But these points will disappear as photographer and model become more at easy with the shoot. Keep shooting and experimenting, after all taking pics only cost time with digital. |
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08/09/2004 07:33:53 PM · #28 |
Wow, I was busy at work today and didn't have a chance to respond to the thread, but THANKS to all for the comments and discussions about these photos. Extra thanks to Kevin for the indepth critiques you left. Much appreciated.
What's interesting about the #4 shot, is it was kind of a spur of the moment thing. The shoot was actually over and we were getting ready to leave. I happened to be standing behind Samantha as she was talking to her parents and thought, wow that might be interesting, so I grabbed her and positioned her into the sun.
Unfortunately, or fortunately as far as rules are concerned I'm green to a lot of them. In some aspects I think that is good, because I experiment with different things and sometimes they turn out pretty good, other times, the delete key comes in handy. I just know I tend to like things that have a unique perspective, so I experiment with that by shooting from different angles.
The quadtone idea came after I saw the original in color:
While the original was still one of my favorite shots, I really thought the quadtone would "kick it up a notch", as Emeril would say. From the comments, I believe I succeeded.
Thanks again for all the comments and critiques. I really apreciate them.
Edit: typos
Message edited by author 2004-08-09 19:34:50.
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08/09/2004 07:40:42 PM · #29 |
Many thanks to Kevin, I really appreciate the in-depth response.
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08/09/2004 07:50:49 PM · #30 |
#4 is my favorite. It's funny how some of the most interesting pitures you take are the ones you didnt think twice about when shooting it. Very nice indeed!
Message edited by author 2004-08-09 19:51:26. |
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08/09/2004 08:00:29 PM · #31 |
| All in all..the poses are great. As far as the model. She is bothered by her braces and it shows. One of the things I am working on in my own work is seeing the obvious flaws in a person and also what they perceive as flaws. If she doesn't want her braces to show pose her in such a way that a serious meloncholy mood for the photo works. That way she doesn't have to smile and can relax. She has got amazing eyes...use it. As far as the backgrounds...they are fairly distracting. But who am I to speak. I just photographed a wedding where the background for walking down the aisle was a pig roaster and a bunch of cars! |
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