Setting the record straight on Kerry

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08/06/2004 09:27:11 PM · #1

Republican-funded Group Attacks Kerry's War Record

Now let this ridiculous argument be done with and let the light shine down on the truth that Bush and the republicans are smear campaign experts and that the "im a uniter, not a divider" line be for once and for all put to rest as the BS it is.

*edit - I dont have a URL to reference this too as I recieved it in the email, I subscribe to factcheck.org.

Message edited by author 2004-08-06 21:28:52.

EddyG

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08/06/2004 09:44:42 PM · #2

Liberal Activist George Soros Donates $16M to "Defeat Bush At Any Cost"

Kinda makes the $100K some builder donated to these fine men who served our country and deserve to be able to state their case seem like peanuts. Especially since he made these donations to Section 527 groups, in essence circumventing the McCain-Feingold law.

Message edited by author 2004-08-06 21:46:37.

Cam

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08/06/2004 09:48:39 PM · #3

Does this really need a new thread MM?

There are plenty to choose from......

08/06/2004 09:49:41 PM · #4

Riggs is right. Certainly this pertains to the other threads already in existance.

08/06/2004 09:57:32 PM · #5

Originally posted by KarenB:

Riggs is right. Certainly this pertains to the other threads already in existance.

I had locked this forgetting it was in rant.
It is now unlocked, but I would urge you all to not cross-post which is essentially what this is - Rant or not.

Also, I would hope that even though opinions spur conversation, that opinions be more respected. It seems futile to try to determidly convince someone of your opinion. You can only merely state it.

This last statement is directed to all in every thread, but especially the political ones.

We now continue with our regularly scheduled program.

Thank you.

08/06/2004 09:57:57 PM · #6

My appologies for the new thread. I figured the others were so deep in, this new information would go unscene.

EddieG, for the love of god, that page shows a hell of alot more info than you just pointed out. Acknoledge it!

08/06/2004 10:07:10 PM · #7

The truth of the matter is that the Bush people have never threatened any litigations on Moore's lies, or all the other mis-information that the looney left has conjured. But look, the reporter for the Boston Globe is hired to write the Kerry, Edwards campaign book. Does this not tell you something.

And then think, if the looney left gets their way, we are all headed to socialism where there won't even be a need for DPC because there will only be one inferior camera and one inferior everything else. If these ideas did not work in Russia, Cuba and wherever else they exist, the countries are all below par. USA is great because of our constitution, once the looney left destroys it, where will you all be?

ClubJuggle

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08/06/2004 10:12:40 PM · #8

Originally posted by graphicfunk:

And then think, if the looney left gets their way, we are all headed to socialism where there won't even be a need for DPC because there will only be one inferior camera and one inferior everything else. If these ideas did not work in Russia, Cuba and wherever else they exist, the countries are all below par. USA is great because of our constitution, once the looney left destroys it, where will you all be?

The "looney left" is not the side who is trying desecrate the constitution by pushing an amendment that, if passed, would be the first time in the history of this country an amendment was passed explicitly to _restrict_ the rights of a specific group of citizens.

-Terry

08/06/2004 10:15:06 PM · #9

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Originally posted by graphicfunk:
And then think, if the looney left gets their way, we are all headed to socialism where there won't even be a need for DPC because there will only be one inferior camera and one inferior everything else. If these ideas did not work in Russia, Cuba and wherever else they exist, the countries are all below par. USA is great because of our constitution, once the looney left destroys it, where will you all be?

The "looney left" is not the side who is trying desecrate the constitution by pushing an amendment that, if passed, would be the first time in the history of this country an amendment was passed explicitly to _restrict_ the rights of a specific group of citizens.

-Terry

Well said.

(better than what I was typing up to respond)

08/06/2004 10:31:27 PM · #10

Yeah, but you all sound like dreamers. This is a war which many do not appear to understand. This 9/11 rook place only 5 miles from me. When the enemy is in your camp, you need restrictions. Think, supposed you come from a large family and someone in it is killing some family members...are there not going to be restrictions.

Take it further, it is the looney left that wants no restrictions or profiling. Have we gone mad? The enemy is within...until we rid it, there has to be a series of restrictions, unless you want the taliban or these other groups taking charge of your daily life.

ClubJuggle

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08/06/2004 10:35:07 PM · #11

Nobody said we want no restrictions. We simply want a balance between restrictions and human rights. The two are not mutually exclusive.

If we stop the terrorists by permanently turning this country into a police state, have we really won?

-Terry

08/06/2004 10:37:54 PM · #12

So what you are saying is allow our regular freedom of human rights and the Terroist win, hands down. Can this not be seen?

Just how would you control the enemy within??? There is only one way a blanket restriction for all. Show a better way.

08/06/2004 11:15:45 PM · #13

Originally posted by graphicfunk:

Everything your saying is to the most extreme it could be. If Kerry is president the only main thing that will change, the thing that needs to change, is the head figure of the United States.

Half or more of the US dosnt respect him, the world does not respect him. We need the worlds help to fight terrorism.

08/06/2004 11:29:50 PM · #14

No my friend. many things will change because history shows that the Left does not have the stomach to defend itself. Yes, democrats do, but not the left wing of this party. Your hatred for Bush is very pronounced and such sureness is open to inspection. Look at the attack that the left waged on Bush. Do you not think that if things are as you believe them that they would have found him out? I mean, the 9/11 commission would have loved to bring him down. So what are you left with. Moore??????

08/06/2004 11:38:42 PM · #15

What it really all boils down to is the bumper sticker.. "ANYONE ELSE FOR PRESIDENT".

08/06/2004 11:40:53 PM · #16

Originally posted by MadMordegon:

What it really all boils down to is the bumper sticker.. "ANYONE ELSE FOR PRESIDENT".

The problem is that "anyone else" would not have the cut-throat personality required of any party candidate to achieve such status and position in life.

Cam

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08/06/2004 11:59:23 PM · #17

Originally posted by MadMordegon:

What it really all boils down to is the bumper sticker.. "ANYONE ELSE FOR PRESIDENT".

heh..so Hermon Munster is a good choice...

Sorry, I found that vidio so funny :)

08/07/2004 12:14:03 AM · #18

Originally posted by KarenB:

Originally posted by MadMordegon:
What it really all boils down to is the bumper sticker.. "ANYONE ELSE FOR PRESIDENT".

The problem is that "anyone else" would not have the cut-throat personality required of any party candidate to achieve such status and position in life.

That is true..

I like this quote:

"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."

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08/07/2004 12:40:43 AM · #19

I think you miss the point. the cut throats are the terroist. When you show hatred for someone in your own country and refer to him as such, I do believe that you are carried away with raw emotions. It was we that were attaked. Our enemy has served notice, so direct your anger and sing along with hollywood greatest, the streisands and the Moores. By doing this you are taking your hands away from the ball. We are the target....because we are the infidels.

Just because you side with the aggressor does not mean that they will spare you. You call this extreme, but 9/11 was extreme.

Think: Move on and Moore and the looney left crowd are asserting that Bush is worst than Hitler. That Bush is worst than Sadam. That Bush is an assasin. Look deep into your souls, in this what you truly believe?

My guess is that the blind is leading left. Why so does it spew so much hatred for its country and flag. If you sink this low to use sheer hatred than you are a slave of emotions and this has the tendency to leak out into your daily life. There are wheels within wheels and we all seem to have our function in the scheme of things..but thinking for oneself means extensive research, which the highly emotional is unable to perform.

Show me anyone with blind hatred and I will show you a mass of mis-information in these people's trunks. It is okay to want to unseat any president. I was not happy with Clinton but I never would allow myself to entertain blind hatred. This is something that spirals your life into the negative side of the equation.

cbeller

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08/07/2004 01:13:32 AM · #20

Originally posted by graphicfunk:

Just because you side with the aggressor does not mean that they will spare you. You call this extreme, but 9/11 was extreme.

I think I can say I have lost all respect I had for you. Because people don't agree with your radical views, they are siding with the aggressor? Give me a frickin' break!

08/07/2004 10:42:12 AM · #21

I was not referring to terrorism when I made that statement.
I only meant that persons in power positions, political, corporate, etc... are there because they have aggressive (not always a bad thing) behavior. It was a simple comment pointing out that "just anyone" would not necessarily be "right for president" regardless of their intellect or common sense.

Speaking of common sense.... my personal, generalized view is that it is difficult to find anyone who is not extreme left or right.
Common sense would indicate that one extreme is not better than the other. I seem to fall in the middle. I want my children to have the best education in the world, or at least comparable. I want to be able to prosper like I did with Clinton and the Democrats, but I want safety from terrorists and other criminals without taking my freedoms away, and I think capital punishment has its place.
...just to cite a few.

08/07/2004 11:05:04 AM · #22

Originally posted by cbeller:

Originally posted by graphicfunk:
Just because you side with the aggressor does not mean that they will spare you. You call this extreme, but 9/11 was extreme.

I think I can say I have lost all respect I had for you. Because people don't agree with your radical views, they are siding with the aggressor? Give me a frickin' break!

In such a case, it would be a gentlemen thing to point out where in my statements do you find a radical statement. I do not sing the praises of communism. I do not sing the praises of socialism. I do not equate the president with Hitler. I do not espouse that the president caused 9/11. Yet these are the very statements that the looney left is making. Who is the radical? I am not with the extreme right. I mean, it was Moore that received an offer from Hasbala to distribute his film. It is the left that praises castro and was in love with Russia. Are you not mixing up things a bit? The extreme left is simply anti-american and if you are going to defend their assertions at least be honest and say you hate America.