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08/02/2004 10:12:53 PM · #26 |
the above could be waved for the challenge and made to state that you can't show someone actualy smoking but can show cigarettes etc.
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08/02/2004 10:14:34 PM · #27 |
Here's a smokey shot I used for the Sound Challenge -
or rather spot edited version of it
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08/02/2004 10:34:59 PM · #28 |
How could I forget these from the fires we had in Southern California back in October 2003!
Shot from the roof of my family room.
Shot from the roof of my family room.
My front yard to the right
My house on the right
The valley as viewed from about 5 miles West
We were lucky. Many weren't.
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08/02/2004 10:55:02 PM · #29 |
4.2 You will not use the DPChallenge.com Service to post content or to design, manufacture, market or sell a Product that.....
(viii) encourages or depicts the use of drugs, alcohol or cigarettes
This has been bent (or overlooked) in the past... I don't think the intent or essence of the rule is to prohibit such images with a true photographic intent, but SC can always weigh in.
 
Used on this homepage:
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Message edited by author 2004-08-02 23:00:47. |
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08/02/2004 11:20:10 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by animes2k:
4.2 You will not use the DPChallenge.com Service to post content or to design, manufacture, market or sell a Product that.....
(viii) encourages or depicts the use of drugs, alcohol or cigarettes
This has been bent (or overlooked) in the past... I don't think the intent or essence of the rule is to prohibit such images with a true photographic intent, but SC can always weigh in. |
The whole category will be a gigantic pain for us, having to arbitrate whether such pictures violate the "letter or spirit" of that rule ... |
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08/03/2004 02:43:22 AM · #31 |
I like this idea. I have been wanting to photograph smoke, but haven't gotten around to doing it yet.
Here is one from a recent challenge that I liked (not mine):
I think it should be limited to smoke. If you include steam, wouldn't you also need to include other forms of water vapor (such as clouds). The challenge gets far too broad -- when comparing different things, it helps if they are at least remotely similar.
An interesting twist would be to not allow the source of the smoke to be seen, the composition consisting of nothing but smoke. Might get a little old after voting on a few hundred entries though.
David
Not sure if the above image is smoke or vapor, but it is cool looking.
Message edited by author 2004-08-03 02:44:31.
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08/03/2004 03:22:40 AM · #32 |
Smoke (and/or vapor) makes for an interesting subject.
I had fun making this one for the "Habits" challenge:
I used incense to get a thicker feel on the smoke and created the ring with a paper tube and the bulb from a turkey baster. Woke up the next morning with a very sore throat and a rather interesting smelling house....
I do think the challenge description should be very specific as, to me, there is a huge difference between vapor and smoke. "Smoke" might be also applied to under-water subjects such as the inky clouds produced by octopi. I would really hate to spend a week here sifting through the "it isn't smoke" ... "it is, too" threads. |
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08/03/2004 03:51:54 AM · #33 |
This is sulphurous vapor/smoke from one of my friendly neighborhood volcanoes. LOL... it stinks pretty bad....the vapor, that is.
June
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08/03/2004 04:47:32 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by animes2k:
4.2 You will not use the DPChallenge.com Service to post content or to design, manufacture, market or sell a Product that.....
(viii) encourages or depicts the use of drugs, alcohol or cigarettes
This has been bent (or overlooked) in the past... I don't think the intent or essence of the rule is to prohibit such images with a true photographic intent, but SC can always weigh in. |
The whole category will be a gigantic pain for us, having to arbitrate whether such pictures violate the "letter or spirit" of that rule ... |
Why don't you add to the description of the challenge then that cigarettes can't be used in the shot? |
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08/03/2004 12:41:46 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by oskar:
looking forward already, perhaps make it an open challenge, so people wont just make the smoke with photoshop. |
very good idea... |
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08/03/2004 01:15:42 PM · #36 |
Ya it has to exclude any tobacco product or there will be comments and scoring all over the place by people who will belive it is a violation wether it is ruled out or not.
Of course wild fires started by the improper disposal of said banned tobacco products should be allowed
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08/03/2004 01:21:03 PM · #37 |
| With all this discussion, perhaps someone can write an actual challenge title/description which we can add to the pool. |
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08/03/2004 01:52:18 PM · #38 |
How about....
SMOKE: Take a picture in which smoke plays an important role in the composition. The depiction of tobacco products, including but not limited to cigars, cigarettes and pipes, is prohibited. For the purposes of this challenge smoke is defined as "The vaporous system made up of small particles of carbonaceous matter in the air, resulting mainly from the burning of organic material, such as wood or coal." And does not include water vapor or steam.
(Gah! I shoulda been a lawyer.)
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08/03/2004 05:28:02 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by KaDi:
How about....
SMOKE: Take a picture in which smoke plays an important role in the composition. The depiction of tobacco products, including but not limited to cigars, cigarettes and pipes, is prohibited. For the purposes of this challenge smoke is defined as "The vaporous system made up of small particles of carbonaceous matter in the air, resulting mainly from the burning of organic material, such as wood or coal." And does not include water vapor or steam.
(Gah! I shoulda been a lawyer.) |
i know tobacco smoke is a very touchy subject on this website, since it is not really illegal, yet still against the dpc rules, but it can make some very nice pictures. can we allow exhaling shots, or use the smoke of tobacco products, without necessarily showing the product? |
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08/03/2004 05:47:45 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by Pedro:
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like this |
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08/03/2004 05:51:50 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by Pedro:
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LOVE this shot! Very nicely done!
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08/03/2004 06:09:57 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by Kavey:
LOVE this shot! Very nicely done! |
to respond to your comment KV, the face is actually being reflected in the window that's behind the cigar. the sun was illuminating the smoke directly and - as you correctly assume - the dirt on the window :) |
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08/03/2004 06:19:14 PM · #43 |
WOW! That's very cool - the face is so slight as to almost be overlooked and yet, if one looks for more than a few seconds, which this image deserves, one spots it and it becomes absolutely key to the image as a whole...
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08/03/2004 06:49:54 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by Kavey:
WOW! That's very cool - the face is so slight as to almost be overlooked and yet, if one looks for more than a few seconds, which this image deserves, one spots it and it becomes absolutely key to the image as a whole... |
Zackly. Thanks for noticing :hug (I even had to point that out to his own sister) :) |
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08/03/2004 07:18:21 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by Pedro:
Originally posted by Kavey:
WOW! That's very cool - the face is so slight as to almost be overlooked and yet, if one looks for more than a few seconds, which this image deserves, one spots it and it becomes absolutely key to the image as a whole... |
Zackly. Thanks for noticing :hug (I even had to point that out to his own sister) :) |
Maybe if you dangle an earring off that upper wisp in the center it will reinforce the repeating pattern ... :) |
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