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07/27/2004 08:11:33 PM · #1 |
whats the difference between centrino (processor M) & celeron versas the regular processor 3, 4, ect...?
Looking into to buying a laptop & was hoping to get more info on the variety of stuff out there.
Thanks!
Oh, yeah, I live on the east coast, so I'm going PC.
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07/27/2004 08:13:18 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by Rooster: whats the difference between centrino (processor M) & celeron versas the regular processor 3, 4, ect...?
Looking into to buying a laptop & was hoping to get more info on the variety of stuff out there.
Thanks!
Oh, yeah, I live on the east coast, so I'm going PC. |
"What's in a name? Would a rose by any other name smell as sweet?" But that's just my opinion!
June
Message edited by author 2004-07-27 20:13:36.
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07/27/2004 08:22:32 PM · #3 |
hey chiqui74 how are the people treating you over there in Italy
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07/27/2004 08:23:36 PM · #4 |
I'd stay away from the celerons. They're a crippled version of the Pentiums. I don't have a laptop, so I haven't looked into the centrino at all. I'd do some research between the P4 and centrino. AMD makes good chips too, and are usually cheeper. |
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07/27/2004 08:25:52 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by midnightride2: hey chiqui74 how are the people treating you over there in Italy |
Fine, why do you ask?
June
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07/27/2004 08:28:07 PM · #6 |
well I would like to take a trip there in Nov but not sure how they are treating americans. Just returned from a place which they did not care to much for us.
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07/27/2004 08:28:26 PM · #7 |
As you may know, M and Centrino are basically the same chip. The difference is just branding -- that is, marketing one set of components vs. another, when built around the same chip. Now, as far as M/Centrino vs. Celeron, M/Centrino chips purport to extend battery life to up to 10 hours. So, if you're getting a laptop and are interested in extending your battery life as much as possible, you'll want an M/Centrino chip under the hood.
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07/27/2004 09:20:43 PM · #8 |
Didn't we just have this discussion yesterday? |
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07/27/2004 10:55:19 PM · #9 |
I've had 2 laptops with Celeron chips. They work well. Centrino is newer and intended specifically to work with wireless connections. If you are going to be doing a lot of battery powered operations away from an outlet then the M chip has real advantages. If most of your use is within reach of an outlet with an occasion excursion, the Celeron will save you a little bread. You can also get an adapter cord to run, and recharge, off the lighter socket of a car. |
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07/27/2004 11:01:01 PM · #10 |
Centrino has WiFi on board so you can connect to internet at, say, Starbucks and various hotels and places.
If WiFi is important, the Centrino is a good solution. I am using one right now to connect to the internet at a hotel in Dallas.
I have been connected all day at a different hotel in Chicago.
Great solution ... if this is what you need. |
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07/27/2004 11:01:31 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by bmatt17: I'd stay away from the celerons. They're a crippled version of the Pentiums. I don't have a laptop, so I haven't looked into the centrino at all. I'd do some research between the P4 and centrino. AMD makes good chips too, and are usually cheeper. | text
Crippled only by the size of the onboard cache. All other functions are identical. |
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07/27/2004 11:40:08 PM · #12 |
I just id some research as well. Apparently centrino allows for wireless lan connections is various public places, which I think is GREAT!
Any recommendations on a good laptop to buy? I would like the following stuff;
60-80 GB
2-3 ghz
& a dvd +-rw/cdrw dual drive.
Any help would be great!
Thanks in advance!
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07/27/2004 11:43:53 PM · #13 |
Celeron Crippled. Yes. Celerons have less on processor cache. Also Intel tests each chip at decreasing Mhz levels and the one that they don't fail at is the one that they are sold as... Celerons come from inferior chip production runs. Not sayin that they are bad, quite the contrary, they just didn't cut the mustard at higher Mhz cycles...
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Message edited by author 2004-07-27 23:44:36.
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07/28/2004 12:11:38 AM · #14 |
If you're buying a laptop, either go Centrino/Pentium-M or get an Apple iBook/PowerBook.
Can't find it now, but tests comparing Pentium4-mobile and Pentium-M show that a Pentium-M runs faster in a laptop.
e.g. Pentium-M 1700Mhz would run just as well as say, a 2400Mhz Pentium4-M.
Also, P4's and Celerons were designed for a desktop. Subsequently, they both chew through power and produce f*ck-loads of heat.
That's where "Intel® Speed-step® Technology®" comes in®.
If the processor produces too much heat, (oops. i mean when. not if.), It will slow the processor down so the thing won't blow up.
So your BIG® ... SPIFFY® Pentium4® 3.06Ghz® side-o-beef® may actually be running at 1.5Ghz. ®
FOR MORAL OF STORY, SEE FIRST LINE. |
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07/28/2004 12:16:25 AM · #15 |
thanks W!
what about yper threading. what is it & what are some thoughts about pros & cons?
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07/28/2004 12:23:09 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by Rooster: I just id some research as well. Apparently centrino allows for wireless lan connections is various public places, which I think is GREAT!
Any recommendations on a good laptop to buy? I would like the following stuff;
60-80 GB
2-3 ghz
& a dvd +-rw/cdrw dual drive.
Any help would be great!
Thanks in advance! |
Take Emaschines model m6805 or m6807 amd64bit 3000 ati 9600, or ibook G4 not the powerbook. |
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07/28/2004 12:28:39 AM · #17 |
i did check out the emachines notebooks but theyre pricey & there ae only 2. The sony vaios are the same price, Having a hard time choosing. I want a pc not a mac tho. i'm on the east coast & we're all pc users out here, mostly.
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07/28/2004 12:28:42 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by Rooster: thanks W!
what about yper threading. what is it & what are some thoughts about pros & cons? |
If you see HyperThreading (HT) in a laptop... run. It will most likely be a "desktop Replacement" unit, and no good unless you have a power point, and you have a regridgerator attached to the computers heat dissapation ducts.
From memory, Pentium-M's have no HT. And there is no equivalent technology that has the same effect. (Talking PC's only, macs are different)
HT 'splits' the processor in 2, so you can run processes from 2 programs at the same time.
Read this: //www.intel.com/techtrends/technologies/hyperthreading.htm
pro: good for desktops/servers, can do more thinking in the same amount of time.
con: chews power like no-ones business, produces more hot air than a political sex scandal. |
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07/28/2004 12:32:08 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by wimbello: Originally posted by Rooster: thanks W!
what about yper threading. what is it & what are some thoughts about pros & cons? |
If you see HyperThreading (HT) in a laptop... run. It will most likely be a "desktop Replacement" unit, and no good unless you have a power point, and you have a regridgerator attached to the computers heat dissapation ducts.
From memory, Pentium-M's have no HT. And there is no equivalent technology that has the same effect. (Talking PC's only, macs are different)
HT 'splits' the processor in 2, so you can run processes from 2 programs at the same time.
Read this: //www.intel.com/techtrends/technologies/hyperthreading.htm
pro: good for desktops/servers, can do more thinking in the same amount of time.
con: chews power like no-ones business, produces more hot air than a political sex scandal. |
hilarious! Thanks muck. Any recommendations on a brand?
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07/28/2004 12:43:37 AM · #20 |
What do you want to do with it?
A Mac will do your graphics/photo's soooooo much better. You won't have device driver problems or conflicts because Apple makes all the hardware and the operating systems.
A Mac still does Office, and will read all your friends documents, and your friends can read yours. (Microsoft Office is available on Mac.)
//www.apple.com/
If you play games, and need to use your PC for programs at your work, then you may be better with a Windows PC. Toshiba have a good track-record. Asus make some good slimline ones.
In PC's, just get Pentium-M, lots of ram and you'll be right. (oh, and check the spin speed of the hard-disk. bigger is great, but if it's a slow drive, you'll get shitty.) |
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07/28/2004 04:48:57 AM · #21 |
I've had good luck with Toshiba, very reliable. Had a Compaq that was junk. |
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07/28/2004 05:53:54 AM · #22 |
I have a sony vaio but am soon moving to Apple. My Vaio is fantastic though, never had any problems with it. The screen is absolutely fantastic. I have never seen a clearer or sharper image. I opted to not go for the centrino though and regretted it immediately. It costs a bit more but is well worth it. My vaios battery will run flat after about 45 mins of use (photoshop, transferring files, playing music etc.) The centrinos can give up to 6 hours which is a huuuge bonus.
I have seen a few good compaq laptops and Dells are ok but if i was buying another PC i would certainly stick to the Vaio line.
Hope this helps. |
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