Nobody warned me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

07/23/2004 01:55:20 AM · #1

I just received a terrible email from a member. The member stated that I jusr gave his entry a very good comment, but that his calculator registered a one.

Is this member ignorant of members that vote first, which is what I do. I later return for comments. So if I gave you a 5 on my first vote and then came back add a comment and bumbed it to 6 you would register a one.......but hey you got five the first time and this is your bump.

I am glad I was dealing with an intelligent member who undestood after I replied with an explanation. But is this not understood? I mean this is a mathematical realm wherein votes and comments are not directly tied.

I bring this to the floor because many seem to forget all the circumstances which may cause a score......

kiwiness

Canon Canon 1d x Mark II

07/23/2004 02:00:30 AM · #2

Actually if you bump your 5 to a 6 the person's score will go up a little more meaning it wouldn't register as a one.

jcordina

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

07/23/2004 02:00:54 AM · #3

I think you should contact the website administrators about people hassling you for votes. Regardless if you gave him a good bote or not I think its terrible that people start contacting others because of bad votes. If this starts happening often, many will shy off from voting altogether.

07/23/2004 02:05:52 AM · #4

Actually if you bump your 5 to a 6 the person's score will go up a little more meaning it wouldn't register as a one.

Got it. Say you get two 5's. That is 10 divided by 2 is 5.
If you bump to ine of these to 6. It is 5 and 6 11 divided by 2=5.5

mandyp

Olympus E-500 EVOLT

07/23/2004 02:17:36 AM · #5

That's a rotten thing to do :( I always appreciate your comments, I hope this person doesn't put you off.

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

07/23/2004 02:21:28 AM · #6

Well I am glad some people understand this. I suggest we all eat our scores and get to the next picture. lol

aKiwi

Canon EOS-7D

07/23/2004 03:14:42 AM · #7

On the other hand, I can understand the accused. If you get a good comment and mathematically it looks like the person gave you a 1, I could quite easily see red, or assume foul play. Thanks for bringing this to our attention so we don't make the same mistake :-)

David.C

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

07/23/2004 03:59:28 AM · #8

It is also quite possible, although perhaps not the case here, that the person commenting did nothing to the score this session. Another person, voting within a reasonably small period of time, would also register as a change in the score.

Along the same lines as the above, if you (graphicfunk) had already voted prior to placing the comment, adjusting your score would not have registered as an additional vote placed. That is, the total votes would not have changed; even with the score changing, the individual should have seen it was just an adjustment. This individual would have to be obsessing far beyond what is healthy to have registered a change such as this.

David

jadin

Nikon D800

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED VR

07/23/2004 04:23:06 AM · #9

Originally posted by Britannica:

This individual would have to be obsessing far beyond what is healthy to have registered a change such as this.

And therein lies the key...

ClubJuggle

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

07/23/2004 04:57:59 AM · #10

It's quite a simple thing really to calculate the change in score associated with a given vote. That said, must users who know enough to accept that the most recent voter and the commenter might not be the same person.

I can certainly understand the photographer asking the question; and so long as he or she is accepting your answer at face value I see no problem. I'm assuming the tone of the email was simply puzzlement over the disparity between comment and score?

-Terry

LoudDog

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

07/23/2004 09:49:29 AM · #11

I think people that dig out the calculator to figure out what score they got from each comment need to find something to do.

awpollard

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

07/23/2004 10:03:19 AM · #12

Originally posted by louddog:

I think people that dig out the calculator to figure out what score they got from each comment need to find something to do.

Ditto...

07/23/2004 10:21:07 AM · #13

Look: I said the email was terrible and it was. I was accused of being a cheat.

HOWEVER, I can clearly see the frustration. Many members do not really undestand the average system. They do not consider the total votes as an important factor and yet it is the only basis. For those not up on it consider this. You have 9 votes at 5 and your score is 5. you get a 10 as your tenth. You now have a total of 55 divided bt 10 or 5.5
if you inadvertantly add 10 to your 5 and divide by 2 it yields 7.5. But this is wrong. Look at what happens when you up the numbers. You have 99 votes at 5 each. Your average is 5. You get a 10 as your 100th vote. Look what happens. 99 times 5 is 495 and your 10 makes it 505. Divived by 100 = 5.05. You see, you just got a 10 and it registers not even as a one. .05.
So if anybody is watching the count with a calculator it will help to use it with the total formula which I am certain is old news to many.

HBunch

HP PhotoSmart 315

07/23/2004 10:30:50 AM · #14

I'm guessing too, that if you only revised your score, it would not show up as another vote. The number of votes received would have stayed the same. But, if someone else voted low, at the same time you raised your vote and left comment, then it would in fact register that you gave the photo a low score. In this case, it seems impossible to find out what votes you got, because you would not know that a previous score was changed, and so what you estimate as the newest score would be wrong. Oh well, you can sure pass some time trying though. lol

digistoune