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07/20/2004 01:46:36 PM · #1
working on tuning up my web site.
i'm a fan of flash for a number of reasons.
this is a mix of flash and CSS.

curious how layout feels, and the navigation feels
only the main gallery and animals:birds are active as of now.

thanks.

EDIT - updated 1-29-05

route108

Message edited by author 2005-01-29 23:18:10.
07/20/2004 07:30:57 PM · #2

cats is up as well

hrmmm


07/20/2004 08:04:09 PM · #3
Sweet site - looks good and works OK. Missing an enlarge image option though. Will comment more with more time.

Edit > damn typos!

Message edited by author 2004-07-20 20:04:40.
07/20/2004 08:31:08 PM · #4
Works quick and easy (at least for me) but really wish the pictures were slightly bigger.
07/20/2004 08:55:08 PM · #5
Make sure there's an alternative way to view your photo gallery... not all of us like or have Flash.
07/20/2004 09:00:02 PM · #6
most of all of us should like and have flash...

the alternative is here..

thanks all.
07/20/2004 09:01:43 PM · #7
the outside border is for 800x600
the site is supposed be a sampling - to wet the appetite - will add a way to request hi res.


07/20/2004 09:04:40 PM · #8
Originally posted by soup:

most of all of us should like and have flash...


Uh-huh.

Originally posted by soup:

the alternative is here..


Where?
07/20/2004 09:07:11 PM · #9
Originally posted by soup:

most of all of us should like and have flash...

arrrugh? Ri dun know about that Raggy. Maybe if most of us love broken back buttons. I, for one, can't stand them. But that's just me.
07/20/2004 11:01:18 PM · #10
Originally posted by soup:

working on tuning up my web site.
i'm a fan of flash for a number of reasons.
this is a mix of flash and CSS.

curious how layout feels, and the navigation feels
only the main gallery and animals:birds are active as of now.

thanks.

the link


know of any free flash gallerys for dummies like me that dont know shit about flash?
07/21/2004 01:57:26 AM · #11
Originally posted by Nazgul:

know of any free flash gallerys for dummies like me that dont know shit about flash?

Some of the best tutorials on the net...w3schools.com
07/21/2004 02:21:21 AM · #12
Aesthetically the flash portion looks pretty. Very much not a fan of flash though. Are the images going to be that tiny in the final version? With the flash portion being dark and surrounded in white it kinda makes the images seem even smaller.
07/21/2004 06:24:05 AM · #13
I see you're using ImageWeaver as well!
Hopefully I'm going to have all my pictures online soon on my own website using ImageWeaver... if I were you though I'd customise it some more, you can do virtually anything with it.
For those of you who want a free image gallery like this one, it is actually available free, just Google 'Imageweaver'. It is a little fiddly to set up though.
07/21/2004 06:29:22 AM · #14
Wonderful photography, by the way.
07/21/2004 07:52:32 AM · #15
the back button isn't broken - linking from here opens the page in a NEW window - and there is no where to go back to in a fresh page...

Originally posted by bledford:

arrrugh? Ri dun know about that Raggy. Maybe if most of us love broken back buttons. I, for one, can't stand them. But that's just me.

07/21/2004 07:57:43 AM · #16
@ BobsterLobster
yes i plan on messing with it a bit more - mainly wanted to get some images up, and see how it works. i'd like to get the large pics a bit larger - but may use the getURL feature for them instead. and thanks ;}

@ Nazgul
i wouldn't use imageweaver if you don't know much about flash - although there is a set up walk through for the stock version of it - editing for customzing isn't as straight forward if you haven't used flash for other things.


07/21/2004 07:58:45 AM · #17
Originally posted by soup:

the back button isn't broken - linking from here opens the page in a NEW window - and there is no where to go back to in a fresh page...


It all depends on how you are defining "broke". Generally when you click a link you go to another page or open an image or to a another point in the same document. Clicking the back button would then take you back to where you were. In flash you select a link, in this case one of your images on the left and it opens in the space on the right. Clicking the back button does not take you back to the image you previously viewed as it would in a non-flash environment. Hence, in that sense, it's broken.
07/21/2004 07:58:55 AM · #18
i meant most of the images are stored in my dpc profile as well

Originally posted by wwwavenger:

Originally posted by soup:

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most of all of us should like and have flash...

Uh-huh.

Originally posted by soup:

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the alternative is here..

Where?

07/21/2004 05:44:10 PM · #19
well there is no need for a back button under the circumstances.
all the thumbs are visible - and everything is taking place on a single frame.

i could code it to accomodate a flash back button - but feel it would be a useless feature here.

i think the original post was merely an attack at the fact it appeared i had disabled the back button, and in a sense hijacked their browser - when in fact that wasn't the case at all.

Originally posted by TechnoShroom:

It all depends on how you are defining "broke". Generally when you click a link you go to another page or open an image or to a another point in the same document. Clicking the back button would then take you back to where you were. In flash you select a link, in this case one of your images on the left and it opens in the space on the right. Clicking the back button does not take you back to the image you previously viewed as it would in a non-flash environment. Hence, in that sense, it's broken.



07/21/2004 06:38:37 PM · #20
I don't think the original post was an attack but tone is nigh impossible to read so it may or may not have been.

I do believe there is a need for the back button to work in flash, coding one in may be half a step in the right direction but unless you can make it work in the traditional way it will fall short from a usability standpoint. I have the back function mapped to the thumb button of my mouse. I believe this is default for most 4 or 5 button mice as every one I've tried has been set up this way. It's natural then to click that button to go back to what you were just looking at. Failing that to use the back button on the top of the browser.

Your point about all the photos being shown on the left so there is no need misses the mark. The thumbs on the left are so small you can't really tell what the photo is about without opening the larger version. If a user opens one but wants to return to the previously viewed photo it can easily become a hunting game. Also, if one were to use your menu button and, for example, follow menu>vermont>colchester pond they end up in a place with no photos and the back button doesn't work. They are forced to go back through the menu. Several extra clicks at the minimum assuming they knew where they were previously.

The point of all this is not an attack on you or your site but just trying to explain one of many reasons why some people don't like flash.
07/21/2004 07:22:59 PM · #21
Originally posted by soup:

the outside border is for 800x600
the site is supposed be a sampling - to wet the appetite - will add a way to request hi res.

Resolution (800x600) is a tricky thing. You need to decide what screen resolution you're designing for. Then deduct pixels for border, menu, icons, address and status vertically. Deduct for border and scroll bar horizontally. What you have left is the usable real estate. Your 800x600 would assume a screen resolution of 1024 x 768 minimum.

That's is not an issue per se, since most 2 year old or less PCs are already at 1024x768 or better. But older ones won't be. If a person has poor eyesight, he/she may have intentionally set their monitor for less (say, 800x600) which means you will have to scroll to see your whole opening page image. Probably not desireable.

Just something to think about. I know I have AGONIZED over this for my site (www.digitalquixote.com).

I AM a Flash guy and I like what you have done a lot. There's some very good work behind what you're doing. Good luck.
07/21/2004 07:31:25 PM · #22
well, i understand the point.
and ideally there would/will be an html version available.

i like flash because it's self contained, moderately secure as far as right click and save goes, and smooth over all compared to other options.

the size of the thumbs is relative to viewing resolution.
at 800x600 they are rather large actually. the empty menu items will obviously not remain so.

i'd be happy for someone to point out a 'flash' ( not embedded in a functional html page ) site that uses the back button in a traditional sense.

i didn't take the comment as an attack - but worded in a such a way as to demand a repsonse. it's unlikely i will design my site -w/o flash in the future, and would prefer a user have to learn the site than be totally guided through it. in that i mean - for any given person i would prefer to let them look at what stands out to them than force them to see what i see.

check this out
xylem interactive


07/21/2004 07:48:40 PM · #23
for all the flash haters - what do you use as an alternative that's as cool as that xylem interactive site Soup pointed out? I'm just about to re-design my site, and was going to learn flash because I've seen so many swanky Flash sites. I'm open to dissuasion if there's a decent alternative.
07/21/2004 08:13:58 PM · #24
i dont believe there is...
but would be curious to see if there is. i don't think there is a GNU type app that is close.

07/21/2004 08:16:33 PM · #25
@ Pedro
i can help you with some flash tutorial sites, and files if you're interested. i learned online how it works, and actionscript basics. it's a powerful interface if you have the server, and knowledge.

EDIT: not to say i'm a pro - but novice anyhow.


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