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 07/03/2004 02:30:09 PM · #26
A photo doesn't appeal to you, thats ok, but what happened to voting on the technical aspects of it? Doesn't that deserve a vote too?

This is not a "This photo speaks to me" site only, its a "photography" site too...
 07/03/2004 02:32:27 PM · #27
I don't think anyone is really mad. Most of us reading this thread just can't believe that someone would give such a low average score on a challenge. Your views of what make a photo "acceptable" or "visually pleasing" must be awful narrow if you believe that most of us here produce such high potency crap.

Too bad that your votes were voided, but you just fell prey to the "anti-troll" filter that Drew and Langdon have had to put in place to make sure people vote fairly. Try voting a little higher or broadening your voting criteria. Hand out 2's, 3's, 4's and 5's a little more often. It won't hurt, I promise.


07/03/2004 02:34:34 PM · #28
On a scale of 1-10, five would be considered an average photo. The Newspaper challenge was basically a free study, since any given photo might appear in a newspaper for something. By your vote, you are stating your opinion that the entire group of entries (representing both amateur photographers and professionals with decades of experience) is so terrible that it's not worthy of a 2. Then you actually have the nerve to question FAIRNESS?

You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but then we as a group are just as entitled to ignore it if it appears to be wildly out of touch with reality. I would expect the same to be true if your average vote were 9.6.
 07/03/2004 02:38:56 PM · #29
Originally posted by abreul:
Originally posted by moodville:
It's assumed that if someone votes 1 on every single image in a challenge that they are doing so to raise their own score or to mess with the votes. I'm sure it's hard for a lot of people to understand how every single image earned a 1. It also suggests that if someone found no images they liked in a single challenge that they will likely find no images entered in any challenges here to be enjoyable.


FYI: Soory you re wrong.
Yes I did find some of the pictures in this web site enjoyable.


Were those the 2 votes? :P
The newspaper challenge had 234 entries and you claimed to give every single one of them a 1 score. Most people tend to vote on some technical merit beyond personal like or dislike and so from the 'average' voting pattern that suggests you thought all images were both technically bad and aethestically displeasing to you. That is the basis of my statement that no liked images out of 234 photographs means an above-average dislike for the majority of images posted here.
 07/03/2004 02:43:23 PM · #30
Hey Moodville... go easy on the logic and rationale. Small doses, small doses...
 07/03/2004 02:53:10 PM · #31
I have an idea. I'm going to find a website that hundreds of photographers, from newbies to very, very good photographers hang out. Then, I'm going to log on, and give all of them (okay, the VAST majority of them) the lowest possible score on their challenges, then I'm going to complain that the site isn't fair and balanced when it rejects my votes (hmmm...does the Fox News Channel have a photography site?), and then, when getting attention by voting everything a 1 doesn't produce enough attention, I'll start a thread about how unfair the site is, compare it to a dictatorship, and then portray myself not as someone who's insulting the intelligence of everyone on the site, but rather as a poor, misunderstood loner who stands for freedom and independent thought and all that good stuff.

Should make for an interesting time! :-p
 07/03/2004 02:59:35 PM · #32
Originally posted by scalvert:
Hey Moodville... go easy on the logic and rationale. Small doses, small doses...


But I like logic *sniff*
 07/03/2004 03:00:42 PM · #33
Originally posted by boomer:
I have an idea. I'm going to find a website that hundreds of photographers, from newbies to very, very good photographers hang out. Then, I'm going to log on, and give all of them (okay, the VAST majority of them) the lowest possible score on their challenges, then I'm going to complain that the site isn't fair and balanced when it rejects my votes (hmmm...does the Fox News Channel have a photography site?), and then, when getting attention by voting everything a 1 doesn't produce enough attention, I'll start a thread about how unfair the site is, compare it to a dictatorship, and then portray myself not as someone who's insulting the intelligence of everyone on the site, but rather as a poor, misunderstood loner who stands for freedom and independent thought and all that good stuff.

Should make for an interesting time! :-p


Now that's funny!
07/03/2004 03:02:50 PM · #34
I think you gonna have a broader mind when voting....it seems that you either gives a 1 or 10....it's like giving a yes and no answer....and i realised the comments you made to the fellow DPC-er for their "bad" photos really did not explain to them why it's bad. (giving comments like "bad bad bad" does not really justify for their work)....unless u are able to tell them what actually went wrong with their photo (focus, lighting, composition etc...) your comments is as good as not giving one at all....i'm not a pro (i'm still learning)....but at least i would try to justify my vote and try encouraging than condemning....just my two cents worth
 07/03/2004 03:03:35 PM · #35
Originally posted by abreul:
Dont know if you people is aware of this. but the time you spent voting on dpchallenge maybe is waste of time. Big Brother make the final decition at the end.

Your votes were not counted because you gave an average vote of 1.4810.
We feel that since you gave the majority of the photographs 1s that
your votes should not be counted. It's how our voting system works.

-Langdon/DPC

> How Does Voting Work???
> I know this answer is in your FAQ, but Im really
> confused, I went thrue all the pictures in the
> newspaper contest and my page was showing you have
> vote on a 100%, how come the winner is not showing
> my vote?
>
> thanks
> LA


UMMMM if you gave almost every photo in the challenge a 1 or a 2, I think it is you who is not being fair and balanced.
 07/03/2004 03:08:10 PM · #36
Originally posted by scalvert:
On a scale of 1-10, five would be considered an average photo.

I think a 6 would be just as average as a 5 with our scale. 1-5 on the low end, and 6-10 on the high end. A 5.0 is 0.5 less than the middle of the scale, and a 6.0 is 0.5 greater, right?

Another way of saying it might be that a 5 is average for the 'the cup is half empty' crowd, and a 6 is average for the 'the cup is half full' folks. :)

Sorry, just being nitpicky.


07/03/2004 03:23:16 PM · #37
That would be Mickpicky. Using 5 as an average was for the benefit of this particular individual, for whom the cup (and nearby keg) is apparently half empty. Burp.
 07/03/2004 03:25:19 PM · #38
Originally posted by boomer:
I have an idea. I'm going to find a website that hundreds of photographers, from newbies to very, very good photographers hang out. Then, I'm going to log on, and give all of them (okay, the VAST majority of them) the lowest possible score on their challenges, then I'm going to complain that the site isn't fair and balanced when it rejects my votes (hmmm...does the Fox News Channel have a photography site?), and then, when getting attention by voting everything a 1 doesn't produce enough attention, I'll start a thread about how unfair the site is, compare it to a dictatorship, and then portray myself not as someone who's insulting the intelligence of everyone on the site, but rather as a poor, misunderstood loner who stands for freedom and independent thought and all that good stuff.

Should make for an interesting time! :-p


yeap... :-) You guys just dont get it right??? I Do Not Have to Follow any of your Vote Techniques. and my votes should be counted. basicly you people are telling me you should it done this and that... Why???
07/03/2004 03:28:25 PM · #39
It might help everyone understand your reasoning if you explained your voting criteria in a little more detail.
 07/03/2004 03:30:26 PM · #40
"I'm not the one with a problem. It's the WHOLE WORLD that seems to have a problem with me." - Shrek
 07/03/2004 03:34:15 PM · #41
Originally posted by abreul:
so in other words this is more like a Survey if they like your anwers we'll take it if not you re out. they do not respect your decitions.

Actually you'll find that any major survey organisation will cull any statistically invalid responses from the final analysis, because small numbers of wildly extreme responses can badly skew the results.

A voting average withing 5% of the maximum or minimum score has to be statistically suspect, and should properly be excluded. In a pure numerical sense it's actually MORE fair and balanced to exclude them, not less.

:-)
 07/03/2004 03:37:21 PM · #42
Originally posted by abreul:
yeap... :-) You guys just dont get it right??? I Do Not Have to Follow any of your Vote Techniques. and my votes should be counted. basicly you people are telling me you should it done this and that... Why???

It has already been explained to you why your votes were discounted.

Why don't you tell us why you thought that all of the entries deserved a 1 vote? There must be some reason why you thought it was fair to give each photo a 1 vote, right?


07/03/2004 03:45:45 PM · #43
Originally posted by abreul:

yeap... :-) You guys just dont get it right??? I Do Not Have to Follow any of your Vote Techniques. and my votes should be counted. basicly you people are telling me you should it done this and that... Why???


Because the makers of the site have decreed that for your votes to count you must follow some voting guidelines. On this site, they are gods and what they say is law.

Would you use this sort of argument when debating speeding tickets? I can only imagine the look on the police officer's face when you say "I do not have to follow the speed limits. I'm entitled to go any speed I like and should be allowed to with impunity."
 07/03/2004 03:45:50 PM · #44
Originally posted by micknewton:
Originally posted by abreul:
yeap... :-) You guys just dont get it right??? I Do Not Have to Follow any of your Vote Techniques. and my votes should be counted. basicly you people are telling me you should it done this and that... Why???

It has already been explained to you why your votes were discounted.

Why don't you tell us why you thought that all of the entries deserved a 1 vote? There must be some reason why you thought it was fair to give each photo a 1 vote, right?


Abreul, DPC is what it is whether you approve or not. If it is distastful to you then you are free to not participate. The vast majority of us like the system just the way it is setup.
Vote any way you like, but don't expect rediculous voting patterns to be respected or counted.
 07/03/2004 04:11:33 PM · #45
and if you dont like a single picture in the challenge, dont waste your time voting at all, go do something more productive like going out and taking pictures and entering them into challenges.
 07/03/2004 04:14:37 PM · #46
Ok you guys are all right. I really sucks for giving those pic 1s. I just have to say I did have some hard time giving some of those pics 1, cause there was no 0, I think they should make it from 0 - 10 and ,make all the votes count

Peace/LA

Againg I do not follow people for their opinions or thoughs.

07/03/2004 04:20:25 PM · #47
Rather than seeing you try to defend your position with continued rhetoric, I would still like to get a little more detail on your voting criteria. If you are going to be adamant about your position, you will need to support it with some basic information.
 07/03/2004 04:21:30 PM · #48
Originally posted by abreul:
Ok you guys are all right. I really sucks for giving those pic 1s. I just have to say I did have some hard time giving some of those pics 1, cause there was no 0, I think they should make it from 0 - 10 and ,make all the votes count

Peace/LA

Againg I do not follow people for their opinions or thoughs.


This is a very bad attitude. Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed or are you just mean?

I thought i was a tough voter, but man this is really bad.
Leave!
 07/03/2004 04:23:16 PM · #49
Originally posted by Sonifo:
Originally posted by abreul:
Ok you guys are all right. I really sucks for giving those pic 1s. I just have to say I did have some hard time giving some of those pics 1, cause there was no 0, I think they should make it from 0 - 10 and ,make all the votes count

Peace/LA

Againg I do not follow people for their opinions or thoughs.


This is a very bad attitude. Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed or are you just mean?

I thought i was a tough voter, but man this is really bad.
Leave!


No.. they just void my vote that's all.

Peace/LA
 07/03/2004 04:24:10 PM · #50
Originally posted by abreul:
Originally posted by Sonifo:
Originally posted by abreul:
Ok you guys are all right. I really sucks for giving those pic 1s. I just have to say I did have some hard time giving some of those pics 1, cause there was no 0, I think they should make it from 0 - 10 and ,make all the votes count

Peace/LA

Againg I do not follow people for their opinions or thoughs.


This is a very bad attitude. Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed or are you just mean?

I thought i was a tough voter, but man this is really bad.
Leave!


No.. they just void my vote that's all.

Peace/LA


Do you know why the voided your votes?
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