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02/27/2022 10:51:12 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by Neat: What about morally? Of course that will depend on the morals you value? |
Is there any doubt that Biden is morally superior to Trump?
If anyone objects to the above statement, I'd really love to hear their reasoning. |
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02/27/2022 11:13:37 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by Venser: Originally posted by Neat: What about morally? Of course that will depend on the morals you value? |
Is there any doubt that Biden is morally superior to Trump?
If anyone objects to the above statement, I'd really love to hear their reasoning. |
They are both flawed - no one is perfect - I look to the policies they enact more than to the person. The days of moralistic leaders have long gone...
Of course I'm not saying a moral leader is NOT important though!
Message edited by author 2022-02-27 23:22:09. |
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02/27/2022 11:52:56 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by Neat: Originally posted by Venser: Originally posted by Neat: What about morally? Of course that will depend on the morals you value? |
Is there any doubt that Biden is morally superior to Trump?
If anyone objects to the above statement, I'd really love to hear their reasoning. |
They are both flawed - no one is perfect - I look to the policies they enact more than to the person. |
At least Biden can admit making a mistake ... |
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03/01/2022 07:34:36 AM · #54 |
Originally posted by GeneralE: Originally posted by Neat: Originally posted by Venser: Originally posted by Neat: What about morally? Of course that will depend on the morals you value? |
Is there any doubt that Biden is morally superior to Trump?
If anyone objects to the above statement, I'd really love to hear their reasoning. |
They are both flawed - no one is perfect - I look to the policies they enact more than to the person. |
At least Biden can admit making a mistake ... |
The world is watching. Russia continues to invade Ukraine. Russia's economy is totally dependent upon its energy exports of dirty oil. Even Canada has stopped importing Russian energy. Where is Biden? "Admit your mistake". Stop buying Russia's oil and supporting Putin. It is two faced to provide relatively minuscule financial support to Ukraine's efforts for independence on one end and yet be buying billions of dollars of oil from Russia and supporting their invasion through the back door. The USA was energy independent before Biden with the cleanest environmentally safe drilling available. Enough energy to export to our allies and shut Russia down. Open up the Keystone pipeline until alternate clean energy options can support the world's needs and then phase out. This will turn the Russian people against their dictator and show the world and China that the USA is a peace loving world leader. |
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03/01/2022 09:29:29 AM · #55 |
Originally posted by GolferDDS: The world is watching. Russia continues to invade Ukraine. Russia's economy is totally dependent upon its energy exports of dirty oil. Even Canada has stopped importing Russian energy. Where is Biden? "Admit your mistake". Stop buying Russia's oil and supporting Putin. It is two faced to provide relatively minuscule financial support to Ukraine's efforts for independence on one end and yet be buying billions of dollars of oil from Russia and supporting their invasion through the back door. The USA was energy independent before Biden with the cleanest environmentally safe drilling available. Enough energy to export to our allies and shut Russia down. Open up the Keystone pipeline until alternate clean energy options can support the world's needs and then phase out. This will turn the Russian people against their dictator and show the world and China that the USA is a peace loving world leader. |
There's a lot of nuance your statement is either missing or omitting, bordering on simplistic.
And cleanest, safest, drilling anywhere? Sources?
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03/01/2022 10:16:37 AM · #56 |
Originally posted by Venser: Originally posted by GolferDDS: The world is watching. Russia continues to invade Ukraine. Russia's economy is totally dependent upon its energy exports of dirty oil. Even Canada has stopped importing Russian energy. Where is Biden? "Admit your mistake". Stop buying Russia's oil and supporting Putin. It is two faced to provide relatively minuscule financial support to Ukraine's efforts for independence on one end and yet be buying billions of dollars of oil from Russia and supporting their invasion through the back door. The USA was energy independent before Biden with the cleanest environmentally safe drilling available. Enough energy to export to our allies and shut Russia down. Open up the Keystone pipeline until alternate clean energy options can support the world's needs and then phase out. This will turn the Russian people against their dictator and show the world and China that the USA is a peace loving world leader. |
There's a lot of nuance your statement is either missing or omitting, bordering on simplistic.
And cleanest, safest, drilling anywhere? Sources? |
There is no clean, safe fossil fuel anywhere. There is no time for new pipelines. Rising gas prices are the bright side of this war. Double them again. Then triple them. Get that price somewhere near the actual cost of using gas and oil. |
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03/01/2022 10:45:40 AM · #57 |
The "Right" keeps chanting "freedom isn't free" -- well, as someone in the German government says, higher gas prices are what we will have to pay if we don't want to engage in all-out war or live under totalitarianism. |
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03/01/2022 11:02:01 AM · #58 |
There is, justifiably, a lot of fear about the Ukraine situation, and it's global implications. No matter what you believe, there are NO simple solutions. The global economy is SO intertwined and interdependent that even "just" expelling Russia from SWIFT took almost a week. If you want energy independence then you cannot possibly support Republicans, who want to keep us shackled to fossil fuels, and are fighting every effort and initiative to develop renewables. * championed COAL for goodness sake!!! Republicans shut down a bill that would create a national network of recharging stations for electric cars. One consequence, as an example, is that the USPS had to renew their fleet with combustion engine vehicles. 10s of thousands of vehicles.
Have we become so enamored of "strong man" tactics that we dismiss anything else as ineffective? Yes, it may be "slower", and that's the difficult part because it means that more people may die.
But Biden has been praised globally by his masterful handling of the crisis - even while a great number of Americans (prominent and otherwise) and certain media outlets who pound the table about "freedom", rally around Russia. Russia!!!! A country where people with an opposing opinion get jailed, pushed out windows, or fed poison.
Biden has resurrected and strengthened NATO - which * worked mightily to destroy, and would in a heartbeat (to please Putin) if he's reelected. NATO has never been stronger and is ready to deploy troops to protect Ukraine.
Other countries are also sending military equipment and money.
Biden has rallied the global community to join in sanctioning the bleep out of Russia, who is now a global pariah.
The global community has also now stepped up its intolerance of authoritarians and despots, and I believe would not be as silent or tolerant about a 2nd term with *.
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For those who want us to do "more", my question is: do you REALLY want the U.S. to get out of this proxy war and start WWIII by going head to head with Russia? If we were to survive such an attack, how long, and how many dead Americans, do you think it would take for the protests to go from DO SOMETHING to NO MORE WAR?
ETA
The General is absolutely right. If higher gas prices are what OUR sacrifice is to support Ukraine, why are we whining about it?
Message edited by author 2022-03-01 11:03:08. |
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03/01/2022 11:37:03 AM · #59 |
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03/01/2022 11:48:40 AM · #60 |
Originally posted by MargaretNet: Does Trump already have an army of stormtroopers ready to squash any opposition? |
The first trial of one of the armed insurgents who stormed the Capitol has just started ...
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03/01/2022 11:54:29 AM · #61 |
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03/01/2022 12:08:39 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by MargaretNet: I am yet to see the blatant abuses of law brought to justice. |
You and me both. I believe the city resigned because the new head prosecutor may not be going full-steam on the local case.
The New York State AG is proceeding -- the Trumps are trying to quash the subpoenas requiring them to testify under oath |
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03/01/2022 12:10:19 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by GolferDDS: Originally posted by GeneralE: Originally posted by Neat: Originally posted by Venser: Originally posted by Neat: What about morally? Of course that will depend on the morals you value? |
Is there any doubt that Biden is morally superior to Trump?
If anyone objects to the above statement, I'd really love to hear their reasoning. |
They are both flawed - no one is perfect - I look to the policies they enact more than to the person. |
At least Biden can admit making a mistake ... |
The world is watching. Russia continues to invade Ukraine. Russia's economy is totally dependent upon its energy exports of dirty oil. Even Canada has stopped importing Russian energy. Where is Biden? "Admit your mistake". Stop buying Russia's oil and supporting Putin. It is two faced to provide relatively minuscule financial support to Ukraine's efforts for independence on one end and yet be buying billions of dollars of oil from Russia and supporting their invasion through the back door. The USA was energy independent before Biden with the cleanest environmentally safe drilling available. Enough energy to export to our allies and shut Russia down. Open up the Keystone pipeline until alternate clean energy options can support the world's needs and then phase out. This will turn the Russian people against their dictator and show the world and China that the USA is a peace loving world leader. |
Facile conservative talking points often ignore any real solutions (e.g.blaming Biden is simply rhetorical bias). If you need the dirty climate change juice why not lift sanctions and tap into Venezuelan capacity. We can go back to trashing their society after this mess is over. Or is it still âdrill baby drill â domestically? Many of us would love to hear the T**** folks âadmit their mistake.â |
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03/02/2022 02:23:16 AM · #64 |
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03/02/2022 03:18:52 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by MargaretNet: Originally posted by MargaretNet: What about US airspace? Why isn't it closed to Russian planes? |
Thank you, Mr President Biden. |
As Iâm sure you heard in the Presidentâs State of the Union address last night the ban was announced and is in full effect end of today. This is private (oligarch owned) AND commercial. |
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03/02/2022 04:35:36 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by oldbimmercoupe: As Iâm sure you heard in the Presidentâs State of the Union address last night |
My focus was on MTG and LB, showing off their upstanding moral decorum. |
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03/03/2022 08:45:38 AM · #67 |
Originally posted by Venser: My focus was on MTG and LB, showing off their upstanding moral decorum. |
That those two twatwaffles made it into Congress speaks volumes as to the number of idiots in the US.
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03/03/2022 08:58:56 AM · #68 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb: Originally posted by Venser: My focus was on MTG and LB, showing off their upstanding moral decorum. |
That those two twatwaffles made it into Congress speaks volumes as to the number of idiots in the US. |
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03/03/2022 10:04:25 AM · #69 |
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03/03/2022 10:07:07 AM · #70 |
Originally posted by MargaretNet: For non-Americans - who are MTG and LB? |
Originally posted by NikonJeb: two twatwaffles |
And that's insulting to all other twatwaffles out there. |
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03/03/2022 10:17:05 AM · #71 |
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03/03/2022 11:28:44 AM · #72 |
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03/03/2022 02:27:38 PM · #73 |
Originally posted by MargaretNet: And sweeping real world problems under the carpet won't solve them. To me this is what moving this to Rant is about. It is also made Personal thread visible to the wider Internet, I assume it was deliberate. |
No, it wasn't "deliberate" in the sense that the goal was either to sweep it under the rug or to make it visible to more people. In fact, its being in Rant makes it LESS visible (a significant portion of DPC is opted out of rant). It was moved by SC because it was becoming political. It's possible that further SC discussion could reinstate it, but probably to "General Discussion", not "Personal Life", because that is where it belongs. |
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03/03/2022 03:25:00 PM · #74 |
Originally posted by Neat: And not only a poll on the news sources, but I would love to see if Americans feel their country is headed in the right direction. |
In my opinion, we are not going in the right direction. We have higher inflation than we have had in many years, immigration was out of control, we are now dependent again on foreign oil, and we are being governed by the party that thinks government is the answer to any problem. |
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03/03/2022 05:07:32 PM · #75 |
... and here comes the politics. |
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