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06/06/2004 12:22:16 AM · #26 |
| u should try windows XP, works alot better than ME any day |
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06/06/2004 04:46:06 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by longlivenyhc:
u should try windows XP, works alot better than ME any day |
If I had an upgrade version I would.
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06/06/2004 08:12:32 AM · #28 |
ok back to the start i go lol it was running so beautifully and i am not sure what happened but c drive crashed lol I should be able to fix it though. lol I have learnt a lot too :)
I have to start everything from scratch though. i am gonna see if i can dl xp since that may be more stable, although i know that isn't perfect either.
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06/06/2004 08:35:52 AM · #29 |
Hello..
Windows ME is the worst version of windows ever created. If I were you I'de stick to Windows 98 SE if you have it, reformat the drive again and do a fresh instal of WIN98, then if you so desire it, you can instal ME on the top of 98. After a format ALL your old data will be removed and no longer available. If you computer is quite old (5-7 years) then it is possible that ME has the drivers for it but under normal conditions ME will not instal Graphix drivers and/or the motherboard system drivers too. To be able to help you further I will need to know the specs of your machine. the very fact that you cannot boot into normal mode is a result of a bad installation or incomplete instal and you need to re-format and instal fresh again before you do anything else.
Basically WINME is the same as WIN98SE but it copies the CAB files to your PC so you no longer have to put the CD in and out the drive when installing stuff (that used to be rather annoying), so what you need to do-: in the BIOS set the comp to start from CD
1.Using WIN98 CD do an FDISK and FORMAT of the 'C'drive(if you have 2 HDD then disconnect the other one before you start.
2.Instal WIN98
3.If you wish to have WINME then upgrade next before you instal any devices (when asked press 'cancel'
4.Visit the manufacturers website of your motherboard and get the latest drivers for your chipset etc.
5.Download the latest drivers for your video card.
XP pro is a very stable OS and WINME is the most hated and useless OS ever built. I used WIN2000pro for ages then i upgraded to XP pro and I have another machine running WIN-SERVER2003 and it seems very stable indeed. I wish you all the best and hope this info has been helpfull to you.
Message edited by ClubJuggle - Removed link to pirated software site. |
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06/06/2004 01:11:56 PM · #30 |
I have run Win 3.1, Win 95, Win ME, and Win 2K and Win ME is terrible.
If you think ME is great, do as you wish, but I have NEVER encountered a less stable OS.
You should try Win 2K. It's much easier to install, has more up to date drivers, and is far more stable than Win ME.
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06/06/2004 01:28:19 PM · #31 |
you wont be able to download a legitimate version of XP so dont waste your time. and if you download a pirated copy of it - good luck.
Message edited by author 2004-06-06 15:19:48.
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06/06/2004 02:21:12 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by soup:
you wont be able to downlaod a legitimate version of XP so dont waste your time. and if you download a pirated copy of it - good luck. |
naa |
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06/06/2004 03:04:43 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
I have run Win 3.1, Win 95, Win ME, and Win 2K and Win ME is terrible.
If you think ME is great, do as you wish, but I have NEVER encountered a less stable OS.
You should try Win 2K. It's much easier to install, has more up to date drivers, and is far more stable than Win ME. |
I agree with Spazmo99. Windows 2000 is your best bet if you absolutely need to use Windows. Personally, I'm a Mac user and never have these sorts of problems but that's not going to get us anywhere at the moment.
It sounds like you have a full install CD of Windows 98 and an upgrade of Windows ME, correct? Your best solution is to reformat the hard drive (C:\) with Windows 98 boot floppy then install Windows 98 nice and fresh. Throw the Windows ME CD in the trash where it belongs.
Second best solution is to get an OEM copy of Windows 2000 Professional from newegg.com. You can buy a copy there for $141.00 with any piece of hardware. They do not specifically say what is hardware so you can just add some screws or what I do is add a mouse. Here is a link to the OEM copy of Windows 2000 Professional with SP3: //www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=37-102-138&depa=6
Good luck!
PS: It's called mode, not mood. Safe MODE. :)
Message edited by author 2004-06-06 15:05:37.
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06/06/2004 03:20:37 PM · #34 |
what does that mean?>
Originally posted by :
naa |
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06/06/2004 04:10:02 PM · #35 |
Please be reminded that posting links to sources for pirated software is a violation of the DPChallenge Terms of Use.
[i]4.2 You will not use the DPChallenge.com Service to post content or to design, manufacture, market or sell a Product that (i) infringes the rights of a third party, including, without limitation, copyrights, trademarks, patents, trade secrets, rights of privacy and publicity, ... (iii) condones, promotes, contains or links to warez, cracks, hacks or similar utilities or programs.
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06/06/2004 05:34:36 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Please be reminded that posting links to sources for pirated software is a violation of the DPChallenge Terms of Use.
[i]4.2 You will not use the DPChallenge.com Service to post content or to design, manufacture, market or sell a Product that (i) infringes the rights of a third party, including, without limitation, copyrights, trademarks, patents, trade secrets, rights of privacy and publicity, ... (iii) condones, promotes, contains or links to warez, cracks, hacks or similar utilities or programs. |
I didn't post a link to pirated software. OEM versions are 100% legitimate copies. They are packaged like you would find with your new computer vs the retail boxes. The only stipulation is that you buy a piece of hardware and I add a mouse as I need to replace them at work so I do it slowly.
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06/06/2004 06:15:18 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by MrAkamai:
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Please be reminded that posting links to sources for pirated software is a violation of the DPChallenge Terms of Use.
[i]4.2 You will not use the DPChallenge.com Service to post content or to design, manufacture, market or sell a Product that (i) infringes the rights of a third party, including, without limitation, copyrights, trademarks, patents, trade secrets, rights of privacy and publicity, ... (iii) condones, promotes, contains or links to warez, cracks, hacks or similar utilities or programs. |
I didn't post a link to pirated software. OEM versions are 100% legitimate copies. They are packaged like you would find with your new computer vs the retail boxes. The only stipulation is that you buy a piece of hardware and I add a mouse as I need to replace them at work so I do it slowly. |
It wasn't you, someone else posted something.
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06/06/2004 06:16:44 PM · #38 |
windows 2000 is not your best bet if you are running older hardware from my experience - drivers for win2k and old hardware are hard to find - it's also not game friendly...
Message edited by author 2004-06-06 18:20:07.
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06/06/2004 06:19:47 PM · #39 |
despite all this other talk - it sounds
1) as if loz doesnt no what the main issue with the PC is, and therefore won't have any luck with a new OS anyway
2) as if the HD, CPU, or MB are causing the main issue.
3) or, as if there is a boot sector virus on the HD
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06/06/2004 06:42:00 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by soup:
despite all this other talk - it sounds
1) as if loz doesnt no what the main issue with the PC is, and therefore won't have any luck with a new OS anyway
2) as if the HD, CPU, or MB are causing the main issue.
3) or, as if there is a boot sector virus on the HD |
I actually did figure out the main issue, although now there is a new issue. I ran a downloaded cd yesterday and I think that may have had a virus or something on it because my C Drive totally collapsed last night. I could not get Windows to even start because because of the damange. It said something during the startup of an invalid systems disk that I had to remove and since I didnt have anything in A drive it was talking about c. I managed to eventually get Windows back up (although that wasn't easy because of the damange and it would only let me use my upgrade ME cd to do it).
So now I am actually back at the start and have re deleted the upgrade and I am back at 98.
Everything I had done yesterday was lost in the crash. Scandiskc fixed the problems and re named everything single file on the computer, which have not all be re deleted after I re installed Windows.
This is actually not my computer, its my sisters, and its a hand me down from an other sister so we dont want to spend any money on it. I am generally very capable of programing it though and have done a pretty good job considering.
I hve also been able to see the limitations of ME through this. Number one, with ME it would not let me format c drive from dos. I am not sure why exactly but it seemed to block it. Once I went back down to Windows 98 I was able to do this.
This is the second time i have had to format this machine, and last time it was a similar story. May I love laptops (like the one I am using now), they are so easy to format and pretty much just do what you want but PC's are a totally different story lol Its been hell.
Also i have noticed that with ME it seemed to crash if I tried to run the drivers CD. I had to drop back down to 98 to do that. (some suggestesd doing that in safe mode, but because safe mood cuts the cd rom off, I couldn't use this option. Although I may have been able to set my config to allow that to work only)
So pretty much what I am saying is that ME is a major bitch when it comes to programmin a computer. Its hard to set one up from scratch with it, and its also a lot harder to kill it too. However I do need something with a drivers database so I will continue to use it. I have never actually had problems with it other than programming so once its up its fine. I will however keep the uninstall files for it because if I do need to make changes I will need these.
II do appreciate the help, but now I kind of do know what I am doing and have learnt a few things too. so thanks.
Message edited by author 2004-06-06 18:45:58.
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06/06/2004 08:40:09 PM · #41 |
I am really confused by this thread...
Do you put the same meaning in "formating" as everyone else does?
By formating a computer, you are really wiping the hard drive clean! The operating system, all the programs, all the documents, everything would be gone. You would then have to re-install everything from scratch.
I think that you are really trying to say that you re-installed the operating system over the old one. That in general does not work well, most of the bugs and crap in the old one still stay with the "new" one.
From what I gathered from this thread it seems that the Win98 os has gone haywire. It is really never a good idea to upgrade an operating system.. even though all the programs and stuff work after, you bring all the damaged crap with you into the new operating system.
If you have any chance, backup all of your documents, photos etc. on cd´s. I recommend that you get yourself a copy of Windows 2000, or Windows XP, given that the computer specs can support it. You´d need atleast 128mb of ram in order to run Windows 2000, even more with XP.
I have run Windows 2000 on 133mhz machine for example, it was slow but it worked. Windows 2000 is a far better option than Windows 98/ME. It is much more stable, it supports more deviced than Win98 can etc.
I wish you good luck with your computer :)
P.s. If you were in Win ME/98 and tried to use the format command on the C: drive, that should not work properly, at the best the computer will simply refuse to do it, at the worst it will erase a part of the hard drive before stopping because it cannot format a portion of the hard drive where files reside which are in use.
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06/06/2004 08:58:23 PM · #42 |
Yes by formatting I did mean to wipe the system completely and start from scatch.
And I know you can not format while in Windows, I used the DOS prompt for that. However I have found that its actually impossible to format that particukar machine while running on ME. In each case I had to delete it and go back down to 98 before it would let me.
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06/06/2004 09:12:11 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by loz1:
Yes by formatting I did mean to wipe the system completely and start from scatch.
And I know you can not format while in Windows, I used the DOS prompt for that. However I have found that its actually impossible to format that particukar machine while running on ME. In each case I had to delete it and go back down to 98 before it would let me. |
OK, well the correct way to format a hard drive is to make a bootable floppy with the format.com file on it. Boot the computer up from the floppy drive and then do format c:
It is not entirely possible to format the c: drive whilst in dos mode if you use the format command from the c: drive itself, it cannot complete the format because the file itself is resident on the drive. |
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06/06/2004 09:19:41 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by Ivar:
Originally posted by loz1:
Yes by formatting I did mean to wipe the system completely and start from scatch.
And I know you can not format while in Windows, I used the DOS prompt for that. However I have found that its actually impossible to format that particukar machine while running on ME. In each case I had to delete it and go back down to 98 before it would let me. |
OK, well the correct way to format a hard drive is to make a bootable floppy with the format.com file on it. Boot the computer up from the floppy drive and then do format c:
It is not entirely possible to format the c: drive whilst in dos mode if you use the format command from the c: drive itself, it cannot complete the format because the file itself is resident on the drive. |
There is no need for a bootable floppy, the Win98 CD will pretend it is one when booting from it. It then has all the DOS tools you need to prepare the system.
David
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06/06/2004 09:23:41 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by Britannica:
Originally posted by Ivar:
Originally posted by loz1:
Yes by formatting I did mean to wipe the system completely and start from scatch.
And I know you can not format while in Windows, I used the DOS prompt for that. However I have found that its actually impossible to format that particukar machine while running on ME. In each case I had to delete it and go back down to 98 before it would let me. |
OK, well the correct way to format a hard drive is to make a bootable floppy with the format.com file on it. Boot the computer up from the floppy drive and then do format c:
It is not entirely possible to format the c: drive whilst in dos mode if you use the format command from the c: drive itself, it cannot complete the format because the file itself is resident on the drive. |
There is no need for a bootable floppy, the Win98 CD will pretend it is one when booting from it. It then has all the DOS tools you need to prepare the system.
David |
Or that yes (forgot..) |
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06/06/2004 10:04:40 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by Britannica:
Originally posted by Ivar:
Originally posted by loz1:
Yes by formatting I did mean to wipe the system completely and start from scatch.
And I know you can not format while in Windows, I used the DOS prompt for that. However I have found that its actually impossible to format that particukar machine while running on ME. In each case I had to delete it and go back down to 98 before it would let me. |
OK, well the correct way to format a hard drive is to make a bootable floppy with the format.com file on it. Boot the computer up from the floppy drive and then do format c:
It is not entirely possible to format the c: drive whilst in dos mode if you use the format command from the c: drive itself, it cannot complete the format because the file itself is resident on the drive. |
There is no need for a bootable floppy, the Win98 CD will pretend it is one when booting from it. It then has all the DOS tools you need to prepare the system.
David |
Thats all done anyway. I have formated the drive.
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06/06/2004 11:58:53 PM · #47 |
I appologise for posting a link to a download site. It6 shall never happen again. I guess in my attempts to help I over-stepped the mark.. I appologise to everyone it offended.
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06/07/2004 12:30:34 AM · #48 |
Loz1,
I'm glad to hear that you got your computer up and running again. However, I agree with the other opinions on Windows ME. Be prepared for more problems to arise in the future, ME has a ton of them. If you are looking for ease of use, built in drivers etc.. Try Windows XP. XP Pro or XP home versions have all the features of ME and then some, plus it is far more stable. |
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06/07/2004 12:36:42 AM · #49 |
| Ok, sorry I didnt see this page before I posted my advice. Alionic is right on all counts. |
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