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06/05/2004 09:23:03 PM · #1
Well, I took the plunge today and ordered a Digital Rebel with the lens. Of course, I want another zoom to obtain longer range; like a 70 to 200/300mm. I've looked at several on the web and I just don't know!

I sure would appreciate some advice on the subject. Thanks in advance!!
06/05/2004 09:40:14 PM · #2
Be prepared to be broke!!! Oh and you may think the Kit lens is the bomb at first. THis is because it is a thousand times better than most P/S digitals have. However, after a couple of weeks you may find it lacking...
06/05/2004 09:50:39 PM · #3
//www.buydig.com has a Tamron 75-300mm f/4-5.6 for 119 free shipping as of a few days ago. Tamron's lens is higher rated than Canon and Sigma's on //www.photozone.de I got the Tamron and it's the best lens! I like it at LEAST as well as the much-hyped 50mm f/1.8 (should be your next purchase realistically after the zoom).

And good luck with it! The Rebel RULES.

M
06/05/2004 10:10:09 PM · #4
Welcome to the Rebel Clan!
06/06/2004 12:56:08 AM · #5
Thanks everyone, for your comments.

With regard to the 50mm I've heard so much about... with the kit lens and the additional zoom, what would be the point of it? Is it because as a prime lens, it would be sharper?

Hey, I'm a newbie with DSLR's so forgive me if my questions are odd.

Thanks again :-)
06/06/2004 01:00:27 AM · #6
Congrats on the new Rebel Ellen.

Ditto to what Ron said.
06/06/2004 01:09:45 AM · #7
You're going to have a blast with the Rebel! I am.
06/06/2004 02:03:48 AM · #8
See what happened to my Olympus 5050 after I got the Rebel:

06/06/2004 04:08:31 AM · #9
Originally posted by digistoune:

With regard to the 50mm I've heard so much about... with the kit lens and the additional zoom, what would be the point of it? Is it because as a prime lens, it would be sharper?

Yep - a LOT sharper. Also, it has a wider aperture (f/1.8), meaning if you get a shallower DOF if you want (you can stop it down to higher f-stops if you want), and you'll be able to take properly exposed photos in darker conditions.

That said, my advice would be not to rush into multiple lens purchases. I bet most photographers have a number of lenses they no longer use (me included) because they don't carefully select what to buy.
06/06/2004 04:17:23 AM · #10
you rebel scum ;-)

Message edited by author 2004-06-06 04:19:54.
06/06/2004 05:22:53 AM · #11
Ellen,

Congrats! Hope you really enjoy it.

As far as lenses go, you'll have to decide what you want but I'd suggest that you get used to the settings on the camera before you go buying too many lenses. The 50 f/1.8 is sharper and faster. It also has better bokeh than the kit lens. Don't know about bokeh, well, read on.
One of the advantages about a DSLR is that with a fast lens you can blur the background out behind whatever you are planning to shoot as your subject. The blurring effect is based on the depth of field (DOF) that a lens produces. If you and I were standing about 10 feet apart and there was a building about 10 feet behind me, then if you photographed me it would be a mistake . . . no, I mean . . . if you photographed me with the kit lens the wall of the building behind me would still be in focus. It would be noticible enough that the pattern of the brick or siding or whatever would show up and look pretty bad with me standing in front of it because you would see all these hard lines around me. Now, say we're standing in exactly the same places and you put the 50 f/1.8 lens on your DReb and open it wide up (the lower the number, the more open or fast the lens is) to 1.8. Now if you take the photograph I should be in focus and the building should be blurred enough so that the lines are softer around my body and it becomes less distracting. This is one of the benefits of being able to buy more costly (but more aesthetically pleasing) lenses once you have an SLR.
Bokeh is the quality of the blur. While bokeh is open to some interpretation because it is based on aesthetics and, therefore, a little subjective, many people agree that an f/1.8 lens has better bokeh than an f/3.5 lens. Find someone who is really into get good glass for their camera and they may even be able to tell you how many blades their lens' shutter has because the more blades, the closer to an actual circle and (queue the music) the softer and prettier the bokeh (tada - bet you thought I'd never get here . . haha me either).
For someone who wants to shoot and get used to an SLR the $120-175 70-300 range tele zoom lenses can be a great way to get into this type of shooting. I'd suggest you wait not because you'll need to go drop $1000 or more on a pro grade tele lens. I suggest you wait so that you can learn and practice a little more with your camera. If you decide you're ready to get a tele zoom lens then I highly suggest you get a mid-grade tele to learn with. I bought one of those $150 Quantaray's (f/4-5.6) and it was pretty good with me except it wouldn't do what I wanted. That was my choice. I bought a professional grade 70-200 f/2.8 L IS USM lens that serves my needs well. Do you need to buy it; probably not. It's all in what you want to do with the camera.

One thing to make note of is that over the course of a year or ten, if you get into photography as a hobby, that original $150 70-300 purchase is going to be a drop in the bucket. If you just want something to take photos with then you may never upgrade from a lens like the Tamron that has been suggested before. If you become "hooked" then you'll grow to realize that whether you use Sigma lenses or Canon or whoever else, your glass can easily cost you multiples of times what your camera body has. You shouldn't be overwhelmed by that. You can have fun and be creative without having to have those $1000 lenses.

Hope I didn't bore you.

Kev
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