Speedlite - ETTL like 580EX II equivalent

06/02/2015 11:18:39 AM · #1

I have been using 580EX II and it is one of the best speedlite flash and I am trying to have one more similar to use but dont want to pay for 600EX-RT. Any other that you can recommend that has ETTL features but less pricy.

jgirl57

06/02/2015 11:21:35 AM · #2

I have a 510EX which I am loving...

Ecce_Signum

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

06/02/2015 11:27:45 AM · #3

I've moved away from the 580EX and for about Â£250 got 4 Yongnuo YN-560IV's and a controller - no ETTL, just fully manual but much more light for a fraction of the cost :)

06/02/2015 11:29:02 AM · #4

Originally posted by jgirl57:

I have a 510EX which I am loving...

It seems like this one is TTL

06/02/2015 11:30:29 AM · #5

Originally posted by Ecce_Signum:

I've moved away from the 580EX and for about Â£250 got 4 Yongnuo YN-560IV's and a controller - no ETTL, just fully manual but much more light for a fraction of the cost :)

Yes that is where my eye got stuck but the problem that I might face is that when I cover an event (most of the time distance is varying) I won't be able to change the setting between one shot to another. This would work well if I have fixed distance, isn't it? unless I missed my calculation and understanding :)

Ecce_Signum

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

06/02/2015 11:33:51 AM · #6

Originally posted by pgirish007:

Originally posted by Ecce_Signum:
I've moved away from the 580EX and for about Â£250 got 4 Yongnuo YN-560IV's and a controller - no ETTL, just fully manual but much more light for a fraction of the cost :)

Yes that is where my eye got stuck but the problem that I might face is that when I cover an event (most of the time distance is varying) I won't be able to change the setting between one shot to another. This would work well if I have fixed distance, isn't it? unless I missed my calculation and understanding :)

You can change the zoom and power from the controller (up to 4 separate groups) but you'd need to know by how much but am sure practise would help if you had time before a vital shoot?

jgirl57

06/02/2015 11:40:19 AM · #7

Originally posted by pgirish007:

Originally posted by jgirl57:
I have a 510EX which I am loving...

It seems like this one is TTL

it is and it is why I brought it.. the one I had before was a 560II and it was manual only, it would not do what I needed it to do.. I am very, very happy with it..
love the settings

I paid 70$ on ebay

Specs
Specifications:
Circuit design: IGBT
Guide no: 53 (ISO100, 105MM)
Flash mode: M, multi, Sc, Sn, S1, S2
Zoom range: 24, 28, 35, 50, 70, 80, 105mm
Vertical rotation: -7 to 90
Horizontal rotation angle: 0 to 270
Power supply: 4 X AA batteries
Lighting time: 100 to 1, 500 times (AA alkaline cell used)
Recycle time: Approximate 3s
Color temperature: 5, 600K
Flash time: 1/200 to 1/20000s
Flash control: 8 levels of output control (1/12/-1/1, 29 levels of fine tuning)
External interface: Hot shoe, PC port
Wireless trigger distance: 20 to 25m indoor, 10 to 15m outdoor
Additional features: High speed sync, fear curtain sync, FEC, FEB, FEV, the electronic flash head zooming, sound prompt, automatic saving setting, PC port, power saving mode, over heat protection, advanced setting

Message edited by author 2015-06-02 11:44:39.

06/02/2015 11:44:44 AM · #8

what features do you need of the 580 that the 430 wont provide? weather sealing and power are the two main items. I use a 430 and its been more than enough for me.

smardaz

06/02/2015 11:54:37 AM · #9

After watching review after review of the yongnuo outperforming the speedlights at a fraction of the cost, that's what I'm found to buy

06/02/2015 12:30:56 PM · #10

Originally posted by smardaz:

After watching review after review of the yongnuo outperforming the speedlights at a fraction of the cost, that's what I'm found to buy

You are paying for reliability and build quality, Yong nuo has improved quite a bit but its not on the level of the Canons, i've owned and used both and still do. My Yong nuos are quite beaten up and held together with tape in some cases, the canon's are still in great condition, considering equal treatment. The older Yong nuos also drain batteries in storage (even after a few days), the canon's don't.

If i wasn't reliant on needed my gear to perform for paid functions i probably wouldn't own the canons.

Yong nuo makes really worthwhile speedlights, it just depends on the amount of risk and lifespan you are willing to accept.

06/02/2015 01:01:17 PM · #11

Originally posted by Mike:

what features do you need of the 580 that the 430 wont provide? weather sealing and power are the two main items. I use a 430 and its been more than enough for me.

may be a psychological problem :) I think it has less power then 580 though as per Yongnuo not sure but they say it is ETTL and ETTL II compatible, does this mean they are ETTL?

e.g. for YN600EX-RT (coming soon)

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Yongnuo
Yongnuo Speedlite YN600EX-RT for Canon Cameras

Product Highlights

Canon-Compatible 2.4 GHz Radio System
Compatible with Canon E-TTL / E-TTL II
Guide Number: 197' at ISO 100 and 200mm
Zoom Range: 20-200mm (14mm with Panel)
Tilts from -7 to +90Â°
Rotates Left & Right 180Â°
Wireless Master/Slave TTL Functionality
Multi Flash Stroboscopic Mode
High-Speed,1st & 2nd Curtain Sync
Runs on 4 AA Batteries

06/02/2015 01:29:10 PM · #12

whether you need that power is up to how you use it. sure the 580 is powerful but it also recycles slower, there is that tradeoff.

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

06/02/2015 03:10:46 PM · #13

Originally posted by Mike:

whether you need that power is up to how you use it. sure the 580 is powerful but it also recycles slower, there is that tradeoff.

humm...I never felt that. May be I should borrow 430 and try it out before buy.

Spork99

OM System OM-1

06/02/2015 04:02:41 PM · #14

I always liked the Metz flashes, but they're as expensive (or more) as the Canons.

I had a Promaster brand flash that was quite good, but none of the brands play well when IR syncing mixed with Canon units.

FromDaRock

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS II USM Lens

06/02/2015 04:50:59 PM · #15

Originally posted by pgirish007:

In addition to the Canon 430, there is also the Yongnou 568 EX II, which is the knock off of the 580 at a fraction of the cost. I have been quite happy with the one I got at Christmas.

Unless you have the Canon radio controller, the RT version of flashes isn't of any use to you. You mentioned using it for events, if you mean to use it on camera, then you have no need to pay for the radio control either.

Message edited by author 2015-06-02 16:55:20.

06/09/2015 11:41:28 AM · #16

finally I got YN600EX-RT and tried to play around during day time and evening time. I will share some of the photographs later today. Though looking at the device, it is looking good to me and working well though I did feel that recharge time is a bit slow. Anyway I wanted to have a flash as a secondary because I am using 580EX II most of the time.