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05/16/2015 09:06:47 AM · #26 |
| Yes, now to find a suitable subject. That really is a challenge (to me). |
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05/17/2015 04:49:27 PM · #27 |
I don't say this much but this needed to be expert editing. I am not the best with photo manipulation so I tend to stay away from the expert editing challenges.
I have what I feel is a great idea but everything I do to the image to make it look "vintage" is outside the advanced rules. I guess I'm going to have to put on my thinking cap and figure it out and just use the light leaks, which I love, to accomplish my goal.
Let me test the waters here. Let's play, "is this legal or not."
Is it legal to:
1. Use the gradient tool only for a section of the photo?
2. Use the Light leak overlay for only a section of the photo?
I'm assuming the gradient tool in the advanced rule set would need to cover the entire photo but the light leak you can use the "place" function and adjust it to where you need your overlay and not necessarily use the entire overlay on the entire photo. So I'm guessing #1 is not legal and #2 is in my scenario because of the extra rule. |
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05/17/2015 04:52:41 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by SEG:
I don't say this much but this needed to be expert editing. I am not the best with photo manipulation so I tend to stay away from the expert editing challenges.
I have what I feel is a great idea but everything I do to the image to make it look "vintage" is outside the advanced rules. I guess I'm going to have to put on my thinking cap and figure it out and just use the light leaks, which I love, to accomplish my goal.
Let me test the waters here. Let's play, "is this legal or not."
Is it legal to:
1. Use the gradient tool only for a section of the photo?
2. Use the Light leak overlay for only a section of the photo?
I'm assuming the gradient tool in the advanced rule set would need to cover the entire photo but the light leak you can use the "place" function and adjust it to where you need your overlay and not necessarily use the entire overlay on the entire photo. So I'm guessing #1 is not legal and #2 is in my scenario because of the extra rule. |
Both would be legal for this challenge. The gradient tool would (in my view) be legal in any advanced challenge. |
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05/17/2015 05:26:50 PM · #29 |
I guess my real question is if the gradient tool and overlay is legal for only a portion of the image and not the entire image.
For example...and these are extreme examples to hopefully explain what I'm trying to say.
Is it legal to add a gradient only on a portion of the image and not the entire image
Is it legal to add the overlay in this pattern? In this case I don't want the light leak to be stretched out so I am narrowing it down to have a small corner light leak.
Resulting in
Message edited by author 2015-05-17 17:29:07. |
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05/17/2015 05:34:46 PM · #30 |
all that looks legal to me... the only extra rule this time is you can use or make a feature, a "light leak" and apply it to your photo. my understanding is that a light leak is by its very nature "selective" to part of the photo, and is often graduated across the photo.. otherwise you would just be increasing the brightness/contrast/levels uniformly for the whole photo, and there would be no "leak" per se
but an SC member weigh in would be helpful... |
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05/17/2015 06:17:01 PM · #31 |
That's correct, we normally don't allow "light leak" processing because it's introducing a dramatic new feature. In this challenge they are fine, and by nature they are localized. And there's no rule that says gradients OR overlays have to cover the entire image. In fact, gradients typically do NOT; they're most commonly used to darken skies or foregrounds.
Message edited by author 2015-05-17 18:17:36. |
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05/17/2015 06:27:39 PM · #32 |
| Does this challenge require the use of light leak? (I tried reading about film emulsion, but since I have never seen it done it is a little hard to fully grasp.) |
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05/17/2015 06:35:18 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
That's correct, we normally don't allow "light leak" processing because it's introducing a dramatic new feature. In this challenge they are fine, and by nature they are localized. And there's no rule that says gradients OR overlays have to cover the entire image. In fact, gradients typically do NOT; they're most commonly used to darken skies or foregrounds. |
Thanks. Just wanted to make sure. I now know for future challenges as well. |
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05/17/2015 06:51:55 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by Jules1x:
Does this challenge require the use of light leak? |
It's allowed, not required.
Not sure why everyone's so fixated on this aspect, since most film cameras do not leak light and few experienced photographers open them outside the darkroom ... |
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05/17/2015 07:18:03 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Not sure why everyone's so fixated on this aspect, since most film cameras do not leak light and few experienced photographers open them outside the darkroom ... |
I got no clue. I guess because it's a very "filmy" gimmick that's showing up in a lot of cam-phone apps, that gives a lot of atmosphere and pizzazz. I don't care for the effect myself... We'll see if the voters do. |
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05/17/2015 07:39:14 PM · #36 |
Thanks Paul and Robert.
For me it was the special rule, combined with the ongoing discussion and my lack of real knowledge on what challenges for this image should look lik that had me thinking maybe I needed to redo my shot. |
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05/17/2015 08:35:23 PM · #37 |
| Can I use a texture I found to age the photo? Or would I have to create the texture myself? I'm boarder line confused on this one. |
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05/17/2015 09:30:21 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by DCrest01:
Can I use a texture I found to age the photo? Or would I have to create the texture myself? I'm boarder line confused on this one. |
There are no restrictions on the source of an image used as a texture. |
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05/17/2015 10:12:47 PM · #39 |
aaahhhh light leak .. what??!
I am glad it is not required :-))
Just learned what this was about it! Found it on a filter in NIK, pretty awesome stuff!
Message edited by author 2015-05-17 23:25:31. |
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05/17/2015 11:53:09 PM · #40 |
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05/19/2015 04:28:49 PM · #41 |
| do we have to use a light leak effect? |
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05/19/2015 04:29:48 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by Mike:
do we have to use a light leak effect? |
Not at all, but you can if you want to. |
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05/19/2015 04:37:04 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by Mike:
do we have to use a light leak effect? |
You do if you want to simulate a crappy plastic camera. |
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05/20/2015 08:41:43 AM · #44 |
You can produce a real light leak in camera. Google "lens whacking."
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05/20/2015 09:15:36 AM · #45 |
| Hope there are some others without light leak. I tried a bunch and thought they just messed mine up LOL |
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05/20/2015 10:11:45 AM · #46 |
I don't understand why there is this special rule and feel like I will be at a huge disadvantage if I don't use it. The challenge says "This week, explore the potential of digital image manipulation to emulate a classic film emulsion look." A light leak is caused by the camera and has nothing to do with simulating the film used. I was excited for this challenge until I came to this thread and learned about the special rule. Voting is going to be like looking at all the crap on IG.
Only reason I looked at this thread was to get an idea about what people are naming their photo. Are people naming their photo based on the film simulated?
Guess the challenge should really be called "Crappy Camera" this week simulate using a crappy light leaking camera in your processing.
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05/20/2015 10:27:10 AM · #47 |
I'm thinking there are images that (arguably) benefit and become more interesting with a light effect added.
Albeit, this may be a just a trend that doesn't last but it seems to have leaked into popular culture.
Originally posted by Kobba:
Guess the challenge should really be called "Crappy Camera" this week simulate using a crappy light leaking camera in your processing. |
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05/20/2015 10:45:58 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by Kobba:
I don't understand why there is this special rule and feel like I will be at a huge disadvantage if I don't use it. The challenge says "This week, explore the potential of digital image manipulation to emulate a classic film emulsion look." A light leak is caused by the camera and has nothing to do with simulating the film used. I was excited for this challenge until I came to this thread and learned about the special rule. Voting is going to be like looking at all the crap on IG.
Only reason I looked at this thread was to get an idea about what people are naming their photo. Are people naming their photo based on the film simulated?
Guess the challenge should really be called "Crappy Camera" this week simulate using a crappy light leaking camera in your processing. |
Well said! Once again, we have a contradiction. Do we want the classic look of film, or the crappy look of film? The challenge description asks for one but doesn't preclude the other.
Part of the problem, I think, is that it's quite difficult to simulate film without resorting to its cheesy effects. I suppose you could simulate the look of slide films that have/had a very distinct palette (like Kodachrome), but even then, you kind of have to push it to extremes to make it obvious. Grain is another possibility, but most people think it's synonymous with noise. Cross-processing, light leaks, sprockety borders (if legal), etc. are much easier for most people. |
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05/20/2015 10:55:01 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Not sure why everyone's so fixated on this aspect, . |
i do
Message edited by author 2015-05-20 10:56:52. |
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05/20/2015 11:55:23 AM · #50 |
I did not name my photo for the film effect I used.
I'm also now questioning my choice to not add a light leak effect.
(But I don't honestly think my score will vary either way. We'll see where I land before submission. I didn't even try light leak, so maybe it would improve?) |
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