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05/24/2004 05:44:54 PM · #1			 | 
		
		Hey there.  I just wanted to get a little feedback on this shot.  I'm kinda taken by it, but not sure why.  Do I have anything here, or is it just me?  
 
 Couple of questions:
 
 Is it way too dark?
 Is the Vignetting that noticeable?
 
 Before I forget 
 
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05/24/2004 05:47:39 PM · #2			 | 
		
		the blues are amazing in the photo.  only thing i would say is the fountain? looks a little out of place
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05/24/2004 05:47:56 PM · #3			 | 
		
		I like the mood you are trying to portray here.
 
 In answer to your questions:
 
 Too dark? Yes and no.  The sky seems right for the mood of the photo.  The trees and foreground are a bit dark.
 
 Vignetting? what vignetting?  I don't see any at all.  Maybe it would be more noticable if the foreground were lighter.
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05/24/2004 05:55:09 PM · #4			 | 
		
		I was kinda wondering about that fountain too.  If I go to print, I would clone it out
 
 I noticed the vignetting at a Higher Screen Resolution (1600 x 1200).  When I lowered it, this wasn't so noticeable. |  
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05/24/2004 05:55:26 PM · #5			 | 
		
		one more thing, i was messin around with it a little bit...how about cropping most of the grass in the foreground out?
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05/24/2004 06:03:33 PM · #6			 | 
		
		Originally posted by achiral:   one more thing, i was messin around with it a little bit...how about cropping most of the grass in the foreground out?  |   
 
 Bump'd the light on the grass & cropped.
 
  
 
 I do like it better w/the grass cropped.  Thanks! |  
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05/24/2004 06:17:55 PM · #7			 | 
		
		This crop seems to work better, however the foreground is still a bit dark.  When I brought it into photoshop it was much brighter.  Go figure.
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05/24/2004 06:41:03 PM · #8			 | 
		
		Originally posted by cpanaioti:   This crop seems to work better, however the foreground is still a bit dark.  When I brought it into photoshop it was much brighter.  Go figure.  |   
 
 Yes, this is kinda wierd.  In my NikonView the foreground is great.  In Photoshop it isn't as light, but works.  In I.E.  -- way too dark.
 
 I need to calibrate my monitor anyway. |  
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05/24/2004 07:17:34 PM · #9			 | 
		
		For web, I always make a copy (opened) switch the View->Montior (soft proofing) on, then with the original and copy side by side, adjust the copy to the original for web based pics.  Then Save For Web.
 I do think the foreground needs a bit more "light" to it.  Did you try using Channels and masking it and then brightening it up some?
 Great shot, anyway!
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05/24/2004 07:25:58 PM · #10			 | 
		
		Ok, I went back to the drawing board and reworked the photo from .nef to .tif to .jpg w/neat.  
 
  
 
 I'll mess around with Channels in the .tif to see what happens.
 
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05/24/2004 08:12:47 PM · #11			 | 
		
		I took a crack at it. I did the following in Photoshop:
 
 I created a copy of the background layer and then deleted the background. I isolated the foreground by picking the sky using the color range tool and selecting inverse. I then created a new layer from this selection. I changed the blending mode for the new layer to "screen". This really brighted the foreground but it also brightened the sky a bit so I went in and erased the sky areas on that layer. I also messed with the hue/saturation a bit to bring out a bit of green.
 
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05/24/2004 08:54:08 PM · #12			 | 
		
		Originally posted by BillE:   I took a crack at it. I did the following in Photoshop:  |   
 
 Bill  - That looks really good.  That defintely brings out the details in the trees.  Thanks for sharing your methodology.  I need to learn how to work with layers more.  thnx -d |  
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