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03/23/2015 12:39:04 PM · #51
Originally posted by blindjustice:

Basic seems like such an unnecessary mental exercise fraught with "did I do this right" anxiety, probably creating a whole lot of "I won't try much" reactions. It appears to favors the advanced processing peeps.


Basic is just so ....basic... Crop Desaturate Add Sharpening and Contrast. If you like, you can pretty much do any global editing.
Just nothing selective - no lens adjustments or skews, nothing gradient (including vignetting) and no contrast points or masks.

Look at this way.. you can go shooting, do your processing and still have time to cook dinner! (or better yet make comments:)

03/23/2015 01:21:57 PM · #52
Originally posted by bohemka:

Viveza: Every single slider would be fine to use, but you cannot at all use a control point. You can make universal adjustments to the image, but you cannot spot-edit.
Color Efex: A tonal contrast adjustment, for example, would be fine, because it applies to the entire image. A gradient or light fill would not, because you are only applying it to a portion of the image. Glamour glow, brilliance/warmth, pro contrast, detail extractor are fine; image borders, vignette, fog, etc., are not. Double and triple check the sidebar to see which actions are "on." If there is anything checked that implies the effect can be added to one part of the photo but not another, it's illegal. But universally applied adjustment is OK.
SEP: Same thing. Double and triple check the sidebar to make sure no location-specific adjustments are being made, and otherwise you'll be OK. A universal structure or brightness or contrast adjustment is absolutely fine.
I'd avoid recipes altogether, as there are too many sidebars to check.

At least that's my take.

This is generally correct. It's the main reason why we stopped using Basic Editing; with these 3rd-party editing plug-ins, Basic was becoming nearly as sophisticated as Advanced. The reason we're using it in THIS case is to keep customized blurs out of the equation and force people to accomplish their blue in-camera as much as possible.
03/23/2015 01:40:44 PM · #53
Originally posted by Bear_Music:


This is generally correct. It's the main reason why we stopped using Basic Editing; with these 3rd-party editing plug-ins, Basic was becoming nearly as sophisticated as Advanced. The reason we're using it in THIS case is to keep customized blurs out of the equation and force people to accomplish their blur in-camera as much as possible.


I wonder if it would have made more sense to run using the advanced rule set, but add a yellow flag indicating that added blurs are not allowed.

Maybe that is too difficult to really enforce?
03/23/2015 02:11:38 PM · #54
I couldn't make mine look like I wanted it to look with global changes. I was using low light and needed to lighten just the face, but I needed to darken part of the background to make it blend just right. I totally suck at basic editing... or maybe that's not it... I am just way toooooo picky to leave a photo alone when it could be turned into a wow photo with the spot edits. But I'm really glad I didn't notice it was basic editing beforehand because if I had, I wouldn't have even shot for it, but now: voila, I have one of my favorite photos ever to hang on my wall edited how I please :)

03/23/2015 02:20:38 PM · #55
Originally posted by SandyP:

... I was using low light and needed to lighten just the face, but I needed to darken part of the background to make it blend just right. I totally suck at basic editing...

I've been using the equivalent of Basic Editing techniques for about 20 years ... if you post a JPEG of the unedited version to your workshop I can see whether it can be edited with Basic, enough you'd consider submitting it ...
03/23/2015 02:33:12 PM · #56
Welllllll.... when I realized I loved the photo too much to not make it look it's best, I went ahead and edited it the way I wanted and posted it on Facebook today :( So I don't ever like to submit photos to challenges that I've put out there in other places. Especially Facebook where I am blessed to have quite a collection of DPchallenge friends. I think the way I ended up editing it makes it look so awesome, I don't think I'd want to go back... it would drive me crrrrazy!
03/23/2015 03:18:09 PM · #57
certain types of blur, i.e. long exposure with a small aperture, tend to emphasize every bit of sensor dust. I would have liked to hide that with an overlayed texture, but not in basic...
03/23/2015 03:30:31 PM · #58
Originally posted by posthumous:

certain types of blur, i.e. long exposure with a small aperture, tend to emphasize every bit of sensor dust. I would have liked to hide that with an overlayed texture, but not in basic...

I think you can clone out sensor dust and hot pixels in basic.
03/23/2015 03:31:42 PM · #59
Proof you can, Don, straight from the Bear's mouth:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Basic Editing also specifically allows the use of Gaussian Blur but it has to be uniformly applied across the entire image. Also, remember that Basic Editing DOES allow the removal of sensor dust and hot pixels via the cloning tool.
03/23/2015 03:45:56 PM · #60
i think this thread confirms why this editing set is barely used any longer.
03/23/2015 08:06:42 PM · #61
Sandy's photo is beautiful, and to not have it in the challenge because of limits on editing rules is a shame.


Message edited by author 2015-03-23 20:06:50.
03/23/2015 08:21:36 PM · #62
Originally posted by SandyP:

I couldn't make mine look like I wanted it to look with global changes. I was using low light and needed to lighten just the face, but I needed to darken part of the background to make it blend just right. I totally suck at basic editing... or maybe that's not it... I am just way toooooo picky to leave a photo alone when it could be turned into a wow photo with the spot edits. But I'm really glad I didn't notice it was basic editing beforehand because if I had, I wouldn't have even shot for it, but now: voila, I have one of my favorite photos ever to hang on my wall edited how I please :)


I am in the same boat but going to try a compromise that I can live with.
03/23/2015 08:28:29 PM · #63
Can we Flip or Mirror the image?
03/23/2015 09:01:35 PM · #64
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Can we Flip or Mirror the image?

You can flip the entire image. You cannot copy and flip it to create a "mirror image" composite ... You can also rotate and crop ...
03/23/2015 09:43:39 PM · #65
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Can we Flip or Mirror the image?

You can flip the entire image. You cannot copy and flip it to create a "mirror image" composite ... You can also rotate and crop ...

Me?! Composite? ROFLMAO!!! No. Entire image. :D Thanks.
03/23/2015 10:26:53 PM · #66
Originally posted by bohemka:

Originally posted by posthumous:

certain types of blur, i.e. long exposure with a small aperture, tend to emphasize every bit of sensor dust. I would have liked to hide that with an overlayed texture, but not in basic...

I think you can clone out sensor dust and hot pixels in basic.
it's a *lot* of sensor dust and I am *very* lazy
03/23/2015 11:13:15 PM · #67
I thought I was the only one.
03/23/2015 11:49:41 PM · #68
Originally posted by posthumous:

Originally posted by bohemka:

Originally posted by posthumous:

certain types of blur, i.e. long exposure with a small aperture, tend to emphasize every bit of sensor dust. I would have liked to hide that with an overlayed texture, but not in basic...

I think you can clone out sensor dust and hot pixels in basic.
it's a *lot* of sensor dust and I am *very* lazy

And cloning it out would somehow be less work if only this were labeled "Advanced" editing?

Message edited by author 2015-03-23 23:51:19.
03/24/2015 07:03:56 AM · #69
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by posthumous:

Originally posted by bohemka:

Originally posted by posthumous:

certain types of blur, i.e. long exposure with a small aperture, tend to emphasize every bit of sensor dust. I would have liked to hide that with an overlayed texture, but not in basic...

I think you can clone out sensor dust and hot pixels in basic.
it's a *lot* of sensor dust and I am *very* lazy

And cloning it out would somehow be less work if only this were labeled "Advanced" editing?


no, he just wanted to slap a texture over it.
03/24/2015 09:20:12 AM · #70
-wasn't the point of basic editing in a blur challenge so that you couldn't "create blur" in parts of the photo
with pp?

in that case basic was a gift compared to minimal. The glass is half full!
03/24/2015 09:26:33 AM · #71
Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by posthumous:

Originally posted by bohemka:

Originally posted by posthumous:

certain types of blur, i.e. long exposure with a small aperture, tend to emphasize every bit of sensor dust. I would have liked to hide that with an overlayed texture, but not in basic...

I think you can clone out sensor dust and hot pixels in basic.
it's a *lot* of sensor dust and I am *very* lazy

And cloning it out would somehow be less work if only this were labeled "Advanced" editing?


no, he just wanted to slap a texture over it.


See.... even textures have good and baad...
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