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02/27/2015 06:35:24 PM · #26 |
| Assuming that the scene does not change, what is the difference between an in camera double exposure and two exposures with different focus? |
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02/27/2015 06:42:20 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by jomari:
Assuming that the scene does not change, what is the difference between an in camera double exposure and two exposures with different focus? |
sheer discrimination, sponsored by pp products! |
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02/27/2015 06:44:07 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by tnun:
Originally posted by jomari:
Assuming that the scene does not change, what is the difference between an in camera double exposure and two exposures with different focus? |
sheer discrimination, sponsored by pp products! |
Aah! And DPC buys into that? |
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02/27/2015 06:51:37 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by jomari:
Originally posted by tnun:
Originally posted by jomari:
Assuming that the scene does not change, what is the difference between an in camera double exposure and two exposures with different focus? |
sheer discrimination, sponsored by pp products! |
Aah! And DPC buys into that? |
only when our own cameras don't have the feature. :) |
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02/28/2015 03:51:40 PM · #30 |
| Are Canons the only brand that lack this feature? Even if there are significant holdouts, it seems to me a trivial difference whether the effect is achieved in camera, on the spot, stunningly cunningly, or in post processing, laboriously cunningly. Some cameras, not mine, can even do this sort of pp after the shooting. |
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02/28/2015 08:10:36 PM · #31 |
I was assuming any camera with an HDR bracketing effect could be used for this? Or am I wrong
Message edited by author 2015-02-28 20:10:50. |
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02/28/2015 09:24:33 PM · #32 |
| I've always loved this style, and it was interesting to see how Orton's images were photograped, but that would be illegal in advanced I'm guessing, so it has to be done in PP, there should of been an extra rule to this so we could of done it exactly how it was done originally. |
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02/28/2015 09:48:26 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by Neat:
I've always loved this style, and it was interesting to see how Orton's images were photograped, but that would be illegal in advanced I'm guessing, so it has to be done in PP, there should of been an extra rule to this so we could of done it exactly how it was done originally. |
You can do it legally in Advanced, we'd count this as "focus stacking", it falls into that category of thing, in sort of the same way that you might use HDR to INCREASE contrast rather than reduce it :-)
Message edited by author 2015-02-28 21:48:36. |
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02/28/2015 10:33:44 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Neat:
I've always loved this style, and it was interesting to see how Orton's images were photograped, but that would be illegal in advanced I'm guessing, so it has to be done in PP, there should of been an extra rule to this so we could of done it exactly how it was done originally. |
You can do it legally in Advanced, we'd count this as "focus stacking", it falls into that category of thing, in sort of the same way that you might use HDR to INCREASE contrast rather than reduce it :-) |
Oh really, so I just want to get this right bc Ive never submitted a photo using focus stacking.
So I can take one image OOF and one image slightly overexposed of the same scene and stack them on top of each other to achieve the desired result?
I'm so excited to use glow to my hearts content without being criticised for it! Although I might just overdo it also ;)
Message edited by author 2015-02-28 22:35:53. |
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03/01/2015 01:22:37 PM · #35 |
| Isn't image overlay essentially just focus stacking in-camera? |
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03/01/2015 02:21:01 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by Neat:
Oh really, so I just want to get this right bc Ive never submitted a photo using focus stacking.
So I can take one image OOF and one image slightly overexposed of the same scene and stack them on top of each other to achieve the desired result?
I'm so excited to use glow to my hearts content without being criticised for it! Although I might just overdo it also ;) |
As long as they are exactly the same scene, yes. Focus-stacking and exposure-stacking (HDR) are both permitted in the Advanced ruleset. |
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03/01/2015 02:22:49 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by snaffles:
Isn't image overlay essentially just focus stacking in-camera? |
The issue with combining multiple exposures in-camera is that typically you won't have valid, exif-bearing originals for each of the images. |
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03/01/2015 03:58:49 PM · #38 |
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03/01/2015 04:25:49 PM · #39 |
so, to clarify...
if i take 1 capture, make a copy, blur and brighten the copy, then blend them, it WILL be legal in Advanced, or at least given a special dispensation for this challenge?
-m
edited to match more closely the link Wendy posted
Message edited by author 2015-03-01 16:38:07. |
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03/01/2015 04:57:21 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by mefnj:
so, to clarify...
if i take 1 capture, make a copy, blur and brighten the copy, then blend them, it WILL be legal in Advanced, or at least given a special dispensation for this challenge?
-m
edited to match more closely the link Wendy posted |
I have done this before and had it validated. (didn't brighten the copy, but did the blurring and mixing, etc. Brightening is definitely legal) |
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03/01/2015 05:03:55 PM · #41 |
7Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Neat:
Oh really, so I just want to get this right bc Ive never submitted a photo using focus stacking.
So I can take one image OOF and one image slightly overexposed of the same scene and stack them on top of each other to achieve the desired result?
I'm so excited to use glow to my hearts content without being criticised for it! Although I might just overdo it also ;) |
As long as they are exactly the same scene, yes. Focus-stacking and exposure-stacking (HDR) are both permitted in the Advanced ruleset. |
Can you create an HDR image and then focus stac/duplicate that image? |
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03/01/2015 05:10:43 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by snaffles:
Isn't image overlay essentially just focus stacking in-camera? |
The issue with combining multiple exposures in-camera is that typically you won't have valid, exif-bearing originals for each of the images. |
so theoretically the camera manufacturer MIGHT change the firmware to accommodate the proof-needy? |
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03/01/2015 05:39:26 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by mefnj:
so, to clarify...
if i take 1 capture, make a copy, blur and brighten the copy, then blend them, it WILL be legal in Advanced, or at least given a special dispensation for this challenge?
-m
edited to match more closely the link Wendy posted |
Definitely, yes, and it doesn't need a special dispensation either, it's legal in any advanced editing challenge. |
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03/01/2015 07:14:02 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by snaffles:
Isn't image overlay essentially just focus stacking in-camera? |
The issue with combining multiple exposures in-camera is that typically you won't have valid, exif-bearing originals for each of the images. |
Oh ok, not that I would actually submit an entry done using only image overlay...had no idea it might affect the EXIF data. Won't mess with it! |
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03/02/2015 09:14:19 AM · #45 |
Ok so to be clear one more time lol
For this challenge I could essentially have one image, blur, and then use overlay blending mode in PS, and this will be sufficient, or do I need to have 3 seperate images and overlay them? |
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03/02/2015 10:02:37 AM · #46 |
LOL I am glad I am not the only one being confused still..
for some reason it is not going through this grey matter of mine..
I am still thinking I will need at least two shots and then just make one of those shots blurry then blend and combine into one, intead of having three like I normally do for HDR... I have never done focus stacking so I have no clue what that is.
What I read below, I understood it as taking one shot, making a copy of that layer then turning that blurry..
Message edited by author 2015-03-02 10:03:49. |
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03/02/2015 10:08:46 AM · #47 |
Originally posted by jgirl57:
LOL I am glad I am not the only one being confused still..
for some reason it is not going through this grey matter of mine..
I am still thinking I will need at least two shots and then just make one of those shots blurry then blend and combine into one, intead of having three like I normally do for HDR... I have never done focus stacking so I have no clue what that is.
What I read below, I understood it as taking one shot, making a copy of that layer then turning that blurry.. |
That's what I did I hope it flies. |
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03/02/2015 10:13:15 AM · #48 |
I can't afford another DQ otherwise I would try that with the one layer
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03/02/2015 10:26:35 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by jgirl57:
I can't afford another DQ otherwise I would try that with the one layer |
Maybe you should try it following to rules above then write down the steps you took and ask the SC if that's OK.
Before the challenge starts obviously. |
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03/02/2015 11:17:35 AM · #50 |
I just found that thread, the one Wendy put down, I like it!
I will try version makes so sense :-)) |
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