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01/17/2015 10:17:44 AM · #1 |
im looking for a cost effective flash triggering system.
what i need it to do:
i want my 430exii on my camera and i want the trigger to control 2 or 3 light set up around the room, no ETTL (except for the on camera flash). i need to be able to turn the off camera lights on an off either individually or in groups.
the 430exii doesnt have a spot to connect to a trigger so i'm assuming i will need to connect it to the camera and im assuming both the 430 on the camera and the trigger will fire? |
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01/17/2015 11:21:44 AM · #2 |
There are two Youngnuo systems that are cheaper than pocket wizards, etc.
603s
622s
The 603s are extremely cheap and will run the lights -- you need to adjust the lights manually and you can't group them. All manual and done at the lights.
The 622s allow you to put the lights in different groupings. However, you still can't just turn a light off at the camera (where you control things) You have to do that at the lights themselves. With the 622s, you control the lights from within the camera menu for the different groupings. Ettl is available, if desired, but I still used them in manual. It was nice to control things from the camera.
The 622 mount the flashes as a hotshot, and is mounted on the camera via hotshot
The 622s work for flashes and can control them remotely -- both flashing and adjusting the light. They can remotely fire some studio strobes, but they cannot adjust the lighting levels on studio strobes.
Message edited by author 2015-01-17 11:23:54. |
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01/17/2015 11:22:21 AM · #3 |
| I just grabbed random links for the yongnuos. Make sure you buy the appropriate camera type. They have them for nikon and canon |
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01/17/2015 12:05:09 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
There are two Youngnuo systems that are cheaper than pocket wizards, etc.
603s
622s
The 603s are extremely cheap and will run the lights -- you need to adjust the lights manually and you can't group them. All manual and done at the lights.
The 622s allow you to put the lights in different groupings. However, you still can't just turn a light off at the camera (where you control things) You have to do that at the lights themselves. With the 622s, you control the lights from within the camera menu for the different groupings. Ettl is available, if desired, but I still used them in manual. It was nice to control things from the camera.
The 622 mount the flashes as a hotshot, and is mounted on the camera via hotshot
The 622s work for flashes and can control them remotely -- both flashing and adjusting the light. They can remotely fire some studio strobes, but they cannot adjust the lighting levels on studio strobes. |
I'll just add to what Wendy said, but first I will point out that you don't need to put the 430 EX II on camera with either of these triggers as they fit on the hot shoe mount. You can still mount it to the camera if you like, but it isn't necessary.
I have the 622's as well, and I highly recommend them. They are more expensive than the 603's, but they are much more capable. In addition to this, I picked up the 622 TX for Christmas which makes usage even easier again (you don't have to use the camera menu), plus adds some new abilities like 2nd curtain support and mixing manual and TTL.
You may want to consider one as well Wendy. Of course, then you have an extra transceiver so you will obviously have to do what I did and get another flash 8-)
Message edited by author 2015-01-17 12:05:38. |
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01/17/2015 12:07:40 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Mike:
im looking for a cost effective flash triggering system.
what i need it to do:
i want my 430exii on my camera and i want the trigger to control 2 or 3 light set up around the room, no ETTL (except for the on camera flash). i need to be able to turn the off camera lights on an off either individually or in groups.
the 430exii doesnt have a spot to connect to a trigger so i'm assuming i will need to connect it to the camera and im assuming both the 430 on the camera and the trigger will fire? |
I probably should have started with this, what do you consider cost effective?
Message edited by author 2015-01-17 12:08:02. |
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01/17/2015 12:08:38 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by FromDaRock:
Originally posted by vawendy:
There are two Youngnuo systems that are cheaper than pocket wizards, etc.
603s
622s
The 603s are extremely cheap and will run the lights -- you need to adjust the lights manually and you can't group them. All manual and done at the lights.
The 622s allow you to put the lights in different groupings. However, you still can't just turn a light off at the camera (where you control things) You have to do that at the lights themselves. With the 622s, you control the lights from within the camera menu for the different groupings. Ettl is available, if desired, but I still used them in manual. It was nice to control things from the camera.
The 622 mount the flashes as a hotshot, and is mounted on the camera via hotshot
The 622s work for flashes and can control them remotely -- both flashing and adjusting the light. They can remotely fire some studio strobes, but they cannot adjust the lighting levels on studio strobes. |
I'll just add to what Wendy said, but first I will point out that you don't need to put the 430 EX II on camera with either of these triggers as they fit on the hot shoe mount. You can still mount it to the camera if you like, but it isn't necessary.
I have the 622's as well, and I highly recommend them. They are more expensive than the 603's, but they are much more capable. In addition to this, I picked up the 622 TX for Christmas which makes usage even easier again (you don't have to use the camera menu), plus adds some new abilities like 2nd curtain support and mixing manual and TTL.
You may want to consider one as well Wendy. Of course, then you have an extra transceiver so you will obviously have to do what I did and get another flash 8-) |
I'm so glad you said that. In the back of my mind I was thinking that yongnuo had another option out there, but I couldn't remember.
I would upgrade, but I've switched to studio strobes now. I just bought myself two alien bees and an einstein, and having a lot of fun with them. I'll still hang on to my flash options, thought, it really was a good system. Just didn't quite have what I was wanting. But the yongnuos were quite sweet and soooooo much cheaper than the pocket wizards. The did almost everything I wanted them to do. And for the cost savings, I was glad to give up what they couldn't do. |
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01/17/2015 12:27:13 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
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I'm so glad you said that. In the back of my mind I was thinking that yongnuo had another option out there, but I couldn't remember.
I would upgrade, but I've switched to studio strobes now. I just bought myself two alien bees and an einstein, and having a lot of fun with them. I'll still hang on to my flash options, thought, it really was a good system. Just didn't quite have what I was wanting. But the yongnuos were quite sweet and soooooo much cheaper than the pocket wizards. The did almost everything I wanted them to do. And for the cost savings, I was glad to give up what they couldn't do. |
I will probably get some studio stobes someday as well, but for now I have found the speedlights give me most everything I need. They are certainly more portable and easier to use outside, so they will still come in handy if you do any flash photography outside. The 622C TX I mentioned works with your 622's and only cost about $50. |
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01/17/2015 12:51:41 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by FromDaRock:
Originally posted by vawendy:
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I'm so glad you said that. In the back of my mind I was thinking that yongnuo had another option out there, but I couldn't remember.
I would upgrade, but I've switched to studio strobes now. I just bought myself two alien bees and an einstein, and having a lot of fun with them. I'll still hang on to my flash options, thought, it really was a good system. Just didn't quite have what I was wanting. But the yongnuos were quite sweet and soooooo much cheaper than the pocket wizards. The did almost everything I wanted them to do. And for the cost savings, I was glad to give up what they couldn't do. |
I will probably get some studio stobes someday as well, but for now I have found the speedlights give me most everything I need. They are certainly more portable and easier to use outside, so they will still come in handy if you do any flash photography outside. The 622C TX I mentioned works with your 622's and only cost about $50. |
The outside worried me, because I wasn't getting quite enough power out of the flash and I was hoping to get into senior pictures. I bought a portable battery pack for the strobe and I think I'm set now. (well, there are still a couple of things on the wish list, but I'm getting close.)
I did this with flash, but it was really pushing it, trying to get the shots.
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01/18/2015 10:44:35 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by FromDaRock:
Originally posted by vawendy:
There are two Youngnuo systems that are cheaper than pocket wizards, etc.
603s
622s
The 603s are extremely cheap and will run the lights -- you need to adjust the lights manually and you can't group them. All manual and done at the lights.
The 622s allow you to put the lights in different groupings. However, you still can't just turn a light off at the camera (where you control things) You have to do that at the lights themselves. With the 622s, you control the lights from within the camera menu for the different groupings. Ettl is available, if desired, but I still used them in manual. It was nice to control things from the camera.
The 622 mount the flashes as a hotshot, and is mounted on the camera via hotshot
The 622s work for flashes and can control them remotely -- both flashing and adjusting the light. They can remotely fire some studio strobes, but they cannot adjust the lighting levels on studio strobes. |
I'll just add to what Wendy said, but first I will point out that you don't need to put the 430 EX II on camera with either of these triggers as they fit on the hot shoe mount. You can still mount it to the camera if you like, but it isn't necessary.
I have the 622's as well, and I highly recommend them. They are more expensive than the 603's, but they are much more capable. In addition to this, I picked up the 622 TX for Christmas which makes usage even easier again (you don't have to use the camera menu), plus adds some new abilities like 2nd curtain support and mixing manual and TTL.
You may want to consider one as well Wendy. Of course, then you have an extra transceiver so you will obviously have to do what I did and get another flash 8-) |
i know i dont have to put the 430 on the camera, i want to. i want to be sure the trigger system i buy will allow me to use both the 430exii speedlight in the hotshoe and still trigger the off camera lights. |
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01/18/2015 11:37:14 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by Mike:
Originally posted by FromDaRock:
Originally posted by vawendy:
There are two Youngnuo systems that are cheaper than pocket wizards, etc.
603s
622s
The 603s are extremely cheap and will run the lights -- you need to adjust the lights manually and you can't group them. All manual and done at the lights.
The 622s allow you to put the lights in different groupings. However, you still can't just turn a light off at the camera (where you control things) You have to do that at the lights themselves. With the 622s, you control the lights from within the camera menu for the different groupings. Ettl is available, if desired, but I still used them in manual. It was nice to control things from the camera.
The 622 mount the flashes as a hotshot, and is mounted on the camera via hotshot
The 622s work for flashes and can control them remotely -- both flashing and adjusting the light. They can remotely fire some studio strobes, but they cannot adjust the lighting levels on studio strobes. |
I'll just add to what Wendy said, but first I will point out that you don't need to put the 430 EX II on camera with either of these triggers as they fit on the hot shoe mount. You can still mount it to the camera if you like, but it isn't necessary.
I have the 622's as well, and I highly recommend them. They are more expensive than the 603's, but they are much more capable. In addition to this, I picked up the 622 TX for Christmas which makes usage even easier again (you don't have to use the camera menu), plus adds some new abilities like 2nd curtain support and mixing manual and TTL.
You may want to consider one as well Wendy. Of course, then you have an extra transceiver so you will obviously have to do what I did and get another flash 8-) |
i know i dont have to put the 430 on the camera, i want to. i want to be sure the trigger system i buy will allow me to use both the 430exii speedlight in the hotshoe and still trigger the off camera lights. |
I have never used that feature, but I am pretty sure both of these will support that configuration.
Message edited by author 2015-01-18 11:38:07. |
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01/18/2015 12:16:11 PM · #11 |
i'm going to buy some 622s, if it doesn't work i can always return them.
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01/18/2015 12:28:06 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Mike:
i'm going to buy some 622s, if it doesn't work i can always return them. |
It's a good choice. The 622 TX is a good addition as well, plus it is cheaper than the transceiver, but you can't mount your flash on top of it. |
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