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Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

12/30/2014 10:58:22 PM · #1

the loss of your soul as an image maker.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

12/30/2014 11:44:50 PM · #2

They used to say that about variable-contrast, resin-based photo paper, if I recall correctly.

ShutterPug

Canon EOS-6D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

12/31/2014 01:57:05 AM · #3

it equals the equivalent of a darkroom. Film did not just come out perfect all by itself. It depended on the type of film, the processing techniques, the sizing and paper. Photoshop is all this - just digital.

sjhuls

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

12/31/2014 02:03:54 AM · #4

Ha Ha! this always seems to pop up every few months in every photography forum I am a part of. Just used photoshop to create an image that looks a lot like one of my Grandma taken back in 1910 or so. I guess they had already lost their souls by then right, because I am pretty sure that photo didn't come strait out of the camera looking like that.

I suppose I believe just the opposite. Photoshop has brought more soul to the image. We now can take a photo and pour every thought from our souls into it. Before photoshop photoraphers were somewhat limited in what they could transform the image into. Now what is in my mind can be directly translated onto the image. Of course it has to start with the right images to begin with. It all goes hand in hand.

Message edited by author 2014-12-31 02:07:56.

smardaz

12/31/2014 02:13:06 AM · #5

I guess your username is accurate. So is mine. If you don't like it don't use it. But to tell someone else making an artistic endeavor that their effort is artless or soulless is a troll move in my opinion and usually is a sign of jealousy for a lack of skill in that area.

ETA: Your comments from one of your ribbon winning images:

Originally posted by NstiG8r:

Shot in my bath tub with 2 500 watt halogen lights. A little grainy because I had to bump up the ISO to accommodate the high shutter speed. I hope this one does well. Cropped, adjusted levels and curves, sharpen, save for web.

Message edited by author 2014-12-31 02:17:43.

Canon RF 100-500mm f/4.5-7.1 L IS USM

12/31/2014 08:09:42 AM · #6

Originally posted by NstiG8tr:

the loss of your soul as an image maker.

you, of course, are assuming we have souls.

JakeKurdsjuk

Canon EOS R5

12/31/2014 08:45:09 AM · #7

Funny but I see it as the Genesis of image making. Perhaps it took a "photographer" with a soul to see that. ;)

LanndonKane

Nikon D800

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 16-35 f/4 ED VR

12/31/2014 09:46:30 AM · #8

Originally posted by NstiG8tr:

the loss of your soul as an image maker.

quit being such a nasty gator.

(superior interpretation of your username)

Message edited by author 2014-12-31 09:47:35.

LanndonKane

Nikon D800

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 16-35 f/4 ED VR

12/31/2014 09:47:01 AM · #9

Message edited by author 2014-12-31 09:47:16.

hahn23

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS II USM Lens

12/31/2014 10:21:01 AM · #10

disconnect from reality

12/31/2014 10:40:14 AM · #11

Originally posted by hahn23:

disconnect from reality

this generalization that Photoshop is bad is over reaching. Photoshop is a tool to post process images, that's it. Just like lightroom or your cameras firmware. if you want to hate on photoshop you better not ever enjoy looking at anything but your cameras raw files which, guess what, it's postprocessed by some means before you even see it.

as with anything there is deficiency or excess with varying states in between. Why can't we all just accept that we all appreciate different levels of application, there is no balance, there is no moderation, its all user preference.

Message edited by author 2014-12-31 10:43:02.

hahn23

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS II USM Lens

12/31/2014 10:55:46 AM · #12

the creation of elements of interest not originally in the scene, and/or the cloning out of unwanted, major distracting elements is the line which segregates photography from painting/drawing.

12/31/2014 11:13:35 AM · #13

Originally posted by hahn23:

the creation of elements of interest not originally in the scene, and/or the cloning out of unwanted, major distracting elements is the line which segregates photography from painting/drawing.

if you want to discuss the ethical implications of digital manipulation, go for it, but in the broad realm of making images mainly as a hobby, who gives a shit how its defined?

hahn23

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS II USM Lens

12/31/2014 11:28:26 AM · #14

Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by hahn23:
the creation of elements of interest not originally in the scene, and/or the cloning out of unwanted, major distracting elements is the line which segregates photography from painting/drawing.

if you want to discuss the ethical implications of digital manipulation, go for it, but in the broad realm of making images mainly as a hobby, who gives a shit how its defined?

For photo contests, rulesets matter. Compare apples to apples. Not everyone is interested in digital fantasies. Truth matters.

nygold

Nikon D5000

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.8G

12/31/2014 11:32:22 AM · #15

It's a tool that has many uses. You can use it as you like or not what's the big deal?
Did you ever see a poster, billboard, album cover etc. What a boring world it would be with out it.
I don't get the anti photoshoppers. It's like not watching a movie because it has special effects.
The average person now has the ability to create something they saw in a dream and make it look real.
That's pretty cool.