Demonitized currency in photos - DPChallenge Forums

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

05/19/2004 09:11:51 PM · #1

I thought I read somewhere in the rules that photos of currency was not allowed. If so, what about currency that is no longer used like Marks or Francs?

wingy

05/19/2004 09:18:33 PM · #2

Where'd you see that? There have definately been photos of currency in the past and I've never heard anything about it not being allowed, nor do I know of any reason why it would specifically be forbidden.

There was once a "money" challenge which forbid actual currency in order to increase the difficulty and make the submissions more unique, but that was a one time thing, not a general rule.

faidoi

Pentax K10D

05/19/2004 09:22:32 PM · #3

Using Photoshop CS?.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

05/19/2004 09:53:22 PM · #4

There are certain rules about reproducing money, at least in the US, as far as size, amount reproduced, etc.

In general, if you don't include the whole piece, and if the detail is not all there, you should be OK.

PhotoshopCS has a filter which will scan for certain images of money and not open the file. I don't know whether it autmatically emails the Secret Service about the attempt or not ...

05/19/2004 11:33:39 PM · #5

The following is my take on this only. It should not be considered an official ruling on site policy, and should certainly not be considered legal advice.

While there is specific policy regarding reproduction of currency listed in the Terms of Use or the challenge rules, we will disqualify any image we know to be in violation of the laws of the United States or the Commonwealth of Virginia.

Based on this question, I just now did some research and came up with this information from the United States Secret Service, the government agency responsible for enforcement of anti-counterfeiting laws. Based upon this, my personal opinion is that the following paragraph is most relevant to challenge entries:

"Motion picture films, microfilms, videotapes, and slides of paper currency, securities, and other obligations may be made in color or black and white for projection or telecasting. No prints may be made from these unless they conform to the size and color restrictions."

Once an image is printed the rules become a lot more restrictive.

Once again, this is my personal opinion. With regard to site policy, I have not discussed this with the rest of Site Council, and with regard to usage in general I am not a lawyer, so none of this should be considered legal advice. Use of this information is entirely at your own risk.

-Terry

05/19/2004 11:38:17 PM · #6

Regarding your original question... can Marks or Franc notes still be exchanged for Euros anywhere?

-Terry

05/19/2004 11:48:21 PM · #7

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Regarding your original question... can Marks or Franc notes still be exchanged for Euros anywhere?

-Terry

I doubt it but I can ask some friends who might know. I have about 70DM and about 60FF and some misc guilder coins but I am keeping it all. :)

05/19/2004 11:50:55 PM · #8

If you are referring to coins, then as I read it US law allows print reproduction of coins. On the above referenced page, the US Secret Service states simply:

"Photographs, printed illustrations, motion picture film, or slides of United States and foreign coins may be used for any purpose"

-Terry

05/20/2004 12:00:54 AM · #9

According the the European Central Bank web site, the legacy currencies of the Euro member nations will be eligible for exchange at each member nations's central bank for an "indefinite or very long period of time." Based on this, I would say the currencies which were obsoleted by the Euro should be treated as any other currency with regard to reproduction.

-Terry

05/20/2004 12:14:57 AM · #10

Actually, I have various notes/coins for DM, all notes for FF and notes/coins for guilder. I was going to try and take some shots but now I'll just restrict my photos to coins. Thanks, Terry!

-Greg

05/20/2004 12:18:18 AM · #11

Originally posted by faidoi:

Using Photoshop CS?.

Nope, just wanted to take some pictures of money especially foreign currency since it looks better than ours.

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G IF-ED

05/20/2004 12:18:33 AM · #12

My opinion is still that images of currency are acceptable... with the understanding that an image that is acceptable as a challenge entry (to appear only on-screen) might be unacceptable for print.

-Terry

nicoledb

Nikon D70s

05/20/2004 07:39:49 AM · #13

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

For Dutch money, it's until Jan 1 2007 for coins, and until Jan 1 2032 for bills. In France it's until 2012 (2005 for coins), in Germany indefinite. However, you cannot go to any bank and have your old bills exchanged, you need to go to the country's national bank. See also ECB website for the exchange periods.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

05/20/2004 10:01:17 AM · #14

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

I wonder if "any purpose" includes fabricating stamping dies ....

Azrifel

Fujifilm X100VI

05/20/2004 10:42:02 AM · #15

Originally posted by nicoledb:

And they are missing billions. :)