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10/20/2014 01:43:43 AM · #1 |
I am done with my playing around with my cell phone, Even though it was new, it totally did not do me any justice here for the last few challenges, but it was fun to just goof around with it.. I had fun anyhoo...but I feel sorry for your eyes, I am sorry - I am back on my Nikon again LOL..
I did get into a small learning rut of things ..so I been hitting Utube.
I jumped kicked things again trying to learn new techniques and learn new things and that always seems to get my going again...I came across a few Kelby one - blind critiques on Utube and man did that open my eyes to new things.. I have been learning from his photoshop ones but these blind critiques he does on the grid .. they pretty much said the same things and I think I understand now the differences between the things I was learning to what they were meaning and were searching or looking for in certain shots.. some of the technical stuff was really good, a lot were not..
with the comments that are dropped here, things are all coming together and I think its hitting and comprehending to me is a huge deal. (I thank you for those have made comments, means a lot)
Some of their commenting were over bad processing, but what I liked about it with each ending to a group of pics, they gave great advice on what that photographer should be doing to improve..
As these were going through and watching I found it interesting they kept saying the same things pretty much.. bad poses, bad expressions..bad lighting, wrong lighting, totally wrong setting... not close enough, bad subjects..too far away, not interesting, they even told people if they were there and some of them, they were like, you are just not there yet.. keep shooting and practicing, your still doing snapshots like your grandmother takes or a friend.
For their wildlife and other subjects that were critiqued, they kinda said the same things again bad backgrounds, bad subjects, not close enough, too far away...used the wrong lens, used the wrong settings, wrong processing, too light in this area, to dark in that area. to much ring flash, to much flash, not enough flash.
What I also found interesting is these critiques was the fact they brought up the discussion of selective coloring.. where the pictures are in black and white and certain things are only colored in.. I noticed here that is hardly ever done.. is that just not allowed here on DPC or is that kinda like a taboo thing? I kinda like that technique and it brings a different look to the photos, maybe its the newbie in me or something.. their view was pretty simple... no-no thing for pros to do and its not ok to talk about it. but when it comes to customers or clients they love it so they do it for them.
I just don't think I understood exactly why it is such a taboo thing unless its all a processing thing.
Message edited by author 2014-10-20 01:47:38. |
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10/20/2014 02:13:21 AM · #2 |
Julie,
apart from any editing rules restrictions, most people see selective desaturation as a very juvenile, terribly over-done and very much 20-years-ago thing to do.
A number of years ago it was such a huge craze that many people just saw too much of it got sick of it. The examples that are still around are often cheesy to start with, plus badly executed, as well.
However, I know that there are still a lot of people "out there" who will ooooohhhhh and aaaaahhhh over it, but then again they oooooohhhh and aaaaaahhhh over a whole bunch of grainy, crooked, leaning, fuzzy, blurry and just plain boring phone photos, as well.
If you like the technique, then practice it carefully until you can get really good results. Show those to your friends and relatives and you will be rewarede with MUCH admiration (just don't expect the same excitement for it on DPC :-) |
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10/20/2014 07:52:31 AM · #3 |
Yes they do and thank you Karin
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10/20/2014 07:56:13 AM · #4 |
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10/20/2014 09:00:36 AM · #5 |
As far as cell phone cameras go, they can be excellent tools. A lot of people say the best camera is the one you have with you.
You just have to work with the limitations of the tool, and remember what it's good at and bad at. If you shoot in low light with them it won't look very good, but they are excellent at macro work when there is enough light, and even landscapes when the dynamic range of the scene isn't too crazy.
As far as selective coloring, not a fan of it most of the time, but if it works it works, can't draw a hard line with that one.
Youtube has a lot of good videos to learn anything but for learning more about photography I highly recommend a book called Understanding Exposure by Bryan Peterson. Having a book to look at the photos slowly and carefully and absorb what is being taught works better than a video for photography in my opinion.
I found that book extremely valuable, sure the things he writes about are covered elsewhere but he illustrates the concepts well both with photos and words. |
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10/20/2014 09:36:54 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by jgirl57:
. . . What I also found interesting is these critiques was the fact they brought up the discussion of selective coloring.. . . . I just don't think I understood exactly why it is such a taboo thing unless its all a processing thing. |
I'm not a fan in most cases, but as Jon and Karin said, if you do it well and in the right situation, it can be very effective. I have a very few images I have done with selective coloring, some quite recently, that I like a lot. What works for me is a subject that COULD be black and white (or whatever monochrome) with a pop of color naturally. So a person in bw with blue eyes - no, that does not work for me. But something architectural or an outdoor winter snow scene in bw with a splash of color - just might work. |
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10/20/2014 10:23:46 AM · #7 |
| Whenever wedding couples i'm going to photograph mention selective colouring i just bang on about Schindler's List until all romance has been obliterated from the technique in their eyes and they never mention it again. Works a treat. |
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10/20/2014 11:25:28 AM · #8 |
It all depends.
If the request for selective desat comes with a lot of green, then it's a wonderful thing.
If you're doing it for other photographers, you can expect a mixed response: abject ridicule, or helpful tips on how to improve it.
In the end, it's a matter of taste, trends, etc. Selective desat is just SO specific and was done to death in the not distant-enough past. But, like ANY other technique, when done really well it can be an asset to the image. It's an easy way to bring attention to a particular part of the image - like a vignette, but much less subtle.
But you should practice just to know how to do it, so when a well-paying client comes along, you'll be able to do a bangup job :) |
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