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10/03/2014 02:15:33 AM · #1
Looking to replace the EFS 17-85 zoom with another zoom lens. The 17-85 hasn't recovered properly from a few nights in a field in the rain.

Have the following 2 lenses on my radar.

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens
Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0 L IS USM Lens

Anyone offer any advice on pros and cons of each for crop sensor or indeed any other suggestions.

I see a lot of people have the 24-105 on DPC but mostly on full frame. I doubt I will ever afford to go full frame so this decision is based on a crop sensor (50D)

I also have 50mm 1:8
10-22 mm 3.5 - 4.5
85mm 1:8

10/03/2014 05:18:31 AM · #2
I have JUST made my decision earlier this week and purchased the 24-105. It has a longer reach, is made very well, and allows migration to full frame (just in case I do move across sometime)
10/03/2014 05:45:36 AM · #3
I have the efs 17 55 and would recommend it. If you want it as an all round lens, I'd say it would suit a crop sensor much better than the other lens.
The main reason being it's ability to go wider. 17 vs 24 is a huge difference. The 17 is much more usable I would say, however, depends on what type of photography your into.
The 17 55 is probably much cheaper not being an L series.
10/03/2014 06:20:45 AM · #4
since you have a 10-22 i'd get the 24-105. its a much more versatile focal length.



Message edited by author 2014-10-03 06:20:50.
10/03/2014 06:51:30 AM · #5
I recently rented the 24-105 for walkaround and it was ok but didnt wow me... perhaps it's great for portraits though. I might have been expecting too much. I typically carry the 10-22, the 50 and the 200L and I just cant find a zoom that makes me as happy as hauling the three. The 200mm is particularly wonderful. The 10-22 I hope to upgrade to a 16-35/2.8L at some point. Good luck ;-)
10/03/2014 06:55:26 AM · #6
Originally posted by skewsme:

The 10-22 I hope to upgrade to a 16-35/2.8L at some point. Good luck ;-)


is that really an upgrade? you will lose the ultrawide angle
10/03/2014 07:22:15 AM · #7
Thanks for all the replies so far.

Thinking about crop only I guess the Canon 15-85 should also have been a contender.

Looking at the second hand prices of full frames, I see that they are not as expensive as I thought so assuming there was any benefit to upgrading to full frame at some point it does beg me to question whether it is better to go for a full frame compatible lens i.e the 24-105. Hmm....
10/03/2014 07:39:11 AM · #8
Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by skewsme:

The 10-22 I hope to upgrade to a 16-35/2.8L at some point. Good luck ;-)

is that really an upgrade? you will lose the ultrawide angle

I've rented the 17-40 in the past and it was wide enough for me.. but would like a faster wide lens.
10/03/2014 07:56:09 AM · #9
Originally posted by P-A-U-L:



Looking at the second hand prices of full frames, I see that they are not as expensive as I thought so assuming there was any benefit to upgrading to full frame at some point it does beg me to question whether it is better to go for a full frame compatible lens i.e the 24-105. Hmm....


FWIW, I never understood this logic. buy lenses that work best on the camera you have, not lenses that you may be able to use later. selling glass is so easy and the hold their value so its pointless to buy something that performs differently in an effort to be able to use it on something else later. EF-s mount lenses are optimized for crops and are usually much cheaper for equivalent performance, i doubt you'd notice the value of L mount glass on a crop.

the 15-85 is a great performer as is the much cheaper tamron 24-75/2.8 (~$300 used)

i had a canon 10-22 and a tamron 24-75 that served me quite well on my crop.

Message edited by author 2014-10-03 08:00:13.
10/03/2014 08:03:51 AM · #10
Originally posted by Mike:


FWIW, I never understood this logic. buy lenses that work best on the camera you have, not lenses that you may be able to use later. selling glass is so easy and the hold their value so its pointless to buy something that performs differently in an effort to be able to use it on something else later. EF-s mount lenses are optimized for crops and are usually much cheaper for equivalent performance, i doubt you'd notice the value of L mount glass on a crop.


Good point Mike - so based on a crop sensor only, would you recommend the Canon EF 24-105mm over the 15-85 considering I already have a 10-22?

Message edited by author 2014-10-03 08:04:09.
10/03/2014 08:51:13 AM · #11
Originally posted by P-A-U-L:

Originally posted by Mike:


FWIW, I never understood this logic. buy lenses that work best on the camera you have, not lenses that you may be able to use later. selling glass is so easy and the hold their value so its pointless to buy something that performs differently in an effort to be able to use it on something else later. EF-s mount lenses are optimized for crops and are usually much cheaper for equivalent performance, i doubt you'd notice the value of L mount glass on a crop.


Good point Mike - so based on a crop sensor only, would you recommend the Canon EF 24-105mm over the 15-85 considering I already have a 10-22?


i've never used a 15-85.

both are stabilized, the 24-105 is f4 so you get longer and f4 at the long end. the 15-85 is variable f-stop and shorter. both are around teh same price. considering you have the wide end covered, i'd go with a 24-105 unless the 15-85 was marginally sharper which based on this i'm not seeing..
10/03/2014 09:10:29 AM · #12
Thanks Mike - the 24-105 seems to be a solid choice. It is the 6th most popular Canon lens on DPC as far as I can see so it can't be too shabby.
10/03/2014 11:32:05 AM · #13
Originally posted by P-A-U-L:

Thanks Mike - the 24-105 seems to be a solid choice. It is the 6th most popular Canon lens on DPC as far as I can see so it can't be too shabby.


I would argue that's is so common because it is usually the stock kit lens on most the FF cameras bought new.
10/03/2014 11:36:05 AM · #14
Pennyclick uses the 24-105mm as her walkaround on the 7D, a crop-sensor camera. I have one for the 5DII, but I bought that camera body-only and added the lens by choice. It's a great and versatile lens. Penny got tired of having to borrow mine, so she got her own :-)
10/03/2014 12:24:45 PM · #15
Originally posted by Garry:

Originally posted by P-A-U-L:

Thanks Mike - the 24-105 seems to be a solid choice. It is the 6th most popular Canon lens on DPC as far as I can see so it can't be too shabby.


I would argue that's is so common because it is usually the stock kit lens on most the FF cameras bought new.


Ha, good observation! I am sure it must be OK if Canon chose it as a kit lens. It is not easy choosing a new lens:)
10/03/2014 12:26:40 PM · #16
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Pennyclick uses the 24-105mm as her walkaround on the 7D, a crop-sensor camera. I have one for the 5DII, but I bought that camera body-only and added the lens by choice. It's a great and versatile lens. Penny got tired of having to borrow mine, so she got her own :-)


Thanks Robert, if you two use it I assume it must be fairly stellar. It can't be any worse than the 17-85mm

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