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09/20/2014 12:16:58 PM · #1 |
Most cameras now have a multi exposure feature, create a double exposure using this feature, advanced rules, except for multi exposure allowed. |
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09/20/2014 12:36:35 PM · #2 |
I like this idea, but I am not sure I have a camera that has a feature to handle double exposure.
ETA: I did some research and I have he feature on one camera, so I'd love to try this.
Message edited by author 2014-09-20 12:53:26. |
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09/20/2014 01:09:36 PM · #3 |
Bring it on. I love playing with double exposures. |
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09/20/2014 01:20:06 PM · #4 |
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09/20/2014 01:54:09 PM · #5 |
I like this idea. Tee it up! |
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09/20/2014 02:21:08 PM · #6 |
There should be an alternative rule for doing it in post for the folks with no in-camera double exposure features.
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09/20/2014 02:24:09 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by damjanev: There should be an alternative rule for doing it in post for the folks with no in-camera double exposure features. |
but it is not at all the same thing to do it in post. |
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09/20/2014 02:31:08 PM · #8 |
How about:
'In-camera double exposure': Get a double exposure in a single image from your camera - either use the camera's double exposure function, strobes, your lens cap or any other creative solution to achieve your double exposed single image output. |
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09/20/2014 03:08:26 PM · #9 |
well, I do surely admire those more difficult to achieve in-camera double exposures...
and it makes me wonder if we might as well include post-produced doubles/multiples. |
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09/20/2014 04:20:20 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Paul: How about:
'In-camera double exposure': Get a double exposure in a single image from your camera - either use the camera's double exposure function, strobes, your lens cap or any other creative solution to achieve your double exposed single image output. |
There is a difficult degree of difficulty in both techniques. Furthermore, the lens cap technique does not require special rule.
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09/20/2014 04:24:44 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by damjanev: Originally posted by Paul: How about:
'In-camera double exposure': Get a double exposure in a single image from your camera - either use the camera's double exposure function, strobes, your lens cap or any other creative solution to achieve your double exposed single image output. |
There is a difficult degree of difficulty in both techniques. Furthermore, the lens cap technique does not require special rule. |
Then consider it a 'product' challenge, not a 'process' one. Photograph over photography. |
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09/20/2014 06:42:16 PM · #12 |
Special rule - no cropping? Just a thought to retain the original intention. |
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09/20/2014 07:02:17 PM · #13 |
It is also possible to make a double exposure by shooting with a long shutter time in the dark and using multiple "flashes" ... I made this in the bathroom by just turning the room light on and off twice during a 15-second exposure.
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09/20/2014 08:07:58 PM · #14 |
Without the post processing rule to allow combining exposures, this gives a major advantage to anyone who has in camera double exposure, and that is a limited number of photogs, at least for Canon shooters. There only appears to be 3 cameras in their lineup that offer this feature (5D III, 6D and 1D-X). |
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09/20/2014 11:20:25 PM · #15 |
Bring it on!
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09/21/2014 12:20:04 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by rcollier: Without the post processing rule to allow combining exposures, this gives a major advantage to anyone who has in camera double exposure, and that is a limited number of photogs, at least for Canon shooters. There only appears to be 3 cameras in their lineup that offer this feature (5D III, 6D and 1D-X). |
LOTS of the P&S cameras do it also. My little Lumix LX5 does it.
But anyway, opening this up to Post-processed Double Exposures just means it's PREFERABLE to do it in post, and kind of defeats the purpose of the exercise. IMO anyway. Not ALL challenges have to be doable for ALL photographers. We've had camera-phone challenges, and not all of us have camera phones; I had to borrow one for those. |
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09/21/2014 12:39:29 AM · #17 |
Verification might have to be an honor system sort of thing. I have noticed that the exif files with the D7000 are the info for the last exposure only. |
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09/21/2014 12:46:25 AM · #18 |
My Fuji does double exposures in-camera, but if it was a challenge I wouldn't use the feature, I'd shoot a bunch of the first scene and a bunch of the second to get the best ones. I've never been good enough to get the best possible photo set up before clicking the shutter the first time.
Maybe using a view camera with only one sheet of film per outing would help... Train with pain? lol |
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09/21/2014 01:07:19 AM · #19 |
my exifs, LX3 and both pentax, don't indicate double exposure. yet my preference is for the in-camera on the hoof by the seat of the pants click click. |
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09/21/2014 01:09:05 AM · #20 |
What got me thinking about this, watching True Detective on HBO, the into has amazing double exposures Check it out here |
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09/21/2014 06:07:37 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music: But anyway, opening this up to Post-processed Double Exposures just means it's PREFERABLE to do it in post, and kind of defeats the purpose of the exercise. IMO anyway. Not ALL challenges have to be doable for ALL photographers. We've had camera-phone challenges, and not all of us have camera phones; |
Exactly - 100% agree on both counts. There are plenty of challenges that are not available for everyone and that's absolutely fine.
It is absolutely not easy to get good multiple exposures in camera, but that's where the challenge is (at least in this DPC user's opinion). Opening it up to post processing makes it just another expert editing challenge and whilst undoubtedly there will be some wonderful creations, some of them would probably not be possible in camera. In any case, you can play with one exposure to give the illusion of a double exposure. Here's an example, which I knew wouldn't do well, but was fun to make. I used a long exposure, a ND filter and rotated the camera 90 degrees whilst exposing. I'm not sure I could have achieved this effect in photoshop (others possibly could, but I doubt it with my limited PS skills)
Canon Mark III users have the edge on this one, as the multi exposure functionality is more advanced than at least the same functionality I have in any of my cameras (all listed are capable).
Sara Bryne has posted a tutorial for Canon users for how to do multi exposures. The images she has produced are great and similar to those caba linked to in his earlier post.
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09/21/2014 09:39:35 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music: Originally posted by rcollier: Without the post processing rule to allow combining exposures, this gives a major advantage to anyone who has in camera double exposure, and that is a limited number of photogs, at least for Canon shooters. There only appears to be 3 cameras in their lineup that offer this feature (5D III, 6D and 1D-X). |
LOTS of the P&S cameras do it also. My little Lumix LX5 does it.
But anyway, opening this up to Post-processed Double Exposures just means it's PREFERABLE to do it in post, and kind of defeats the purpose of the exercise. IMO anyway. Not ALL challenges have to be doable for ALL photographers. We've had camera-phone challenges, and not all of us have camera phones; I had to borrow one for those. |
I get your point about the post processing, and agree that it defeats the purpose of the exercise.
I don't think this is the best example to make your point about "Not ALL challenges have to be doable for ALL photographers" though. I suspect there are extremely few users on this site that don't have a cell phone with a camera. Probably less than 1 percent. I expect that those missing the double exposure feature is much, much higher, especially considering that one of the largest camera manufacturers in the world doesn't have it in most of their DSLR's. Anyone has the ability to do the long exposure + lenscap technique, but I was merely pointing out that those with with the in camera feature have a distinct advantage, since they don't have the limitations of this technique.
As a counter example, I have a waterproof P+S, but I suspect that if I suggested an underwater challenge, it would never see the light of day due to the requirement for a waterproof camera. Which I would agree with, as I think any challenge should be as inclusive as possible.
Then again, maybe I am just not aware of how common this feature is. I have two cameras plus a smartphone and neither has this feature, so maybe my estimation of how many people don't have this feature is just way off based on my own experience.
My wife tells me I am not aware all the time, maybe there's something to it. ;-) |
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09/21/2014 12:59:19 PM · #23 |
I don't have a cell phone. |
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09/21/2014 01:05:59 PM · #24 |
We could have double challenge, choose one, double exposure in the camera or double exposure in Post processing. |
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09/21/2014 01:06:02 PM · #25 |
If we opened it up to film cameras, they all have a built-in double exposure feature ;)
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