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09/10/2014 09:25:38 PM · #26 |
well i'd be pleased to land on the same page as rkt
Votes: 35
Views: 60
Avg Vote: 5.7714
Comments: 3
Favorites: 1 |
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09/11/2014 06:39:08 AM · #27 |
I am sorry, but clearly this challenge was a bit of a disappointment to me:
Stats: You have rated 70 of 70 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 30 images (43%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.8429.
Too many silhouettes? Too many blurry brown ribbon jobs? Not sure....... |
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09/11/2014 08:51:03 AM · #28 |
Shadows VIII
Votes: 38
Views: 67
Avg Vote: 4.8421
Comments: 3
For an image filled with shadows and highlights, the commenters are asking, "Where are the shadows?" DPC voters are definitely in a different place in their photography than I am. Or, there is a stereotype shadow expectation. It's pretty disappointing. |
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09/11/2014 09:36:00 AM · #29 |
Rocking it out now! :-)
Votes: 39
Views: 66
Avg Vote: 4.5128
Comments: 1 |
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09/11/2014 11:58:56 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by Beetle:
I am sorry, but clearly this challenge was a bit of a disappointment to me:
Stats: You have rated 70 of 70 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 30 images (43%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.8429.
Too many silhouettes? Too many blurry brown ribbon jobs? Not sure....... |
Actually...a silhouette is a shadow. The challenge description is "Use light to capture one or more shadows." I see no mention of what sort of shadow or shadowing...at all. There's no need to narrow the definitions/descriptions unnecessarily. Life is big, so why limit our perception of it.
Message edited by author 2014-09-11 11:59:30. |
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09/11/2014 12:44:15 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by RKT:
Originally posted by Beetle:
I am sorry, but clearly this challenge was a bit of a disappointment to me:
Stats: You have rated 70 of 70 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 30 images (43%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.8429.
Too many silhouettes? Too many blurry brown ribbon jobs? Not sure....... |
Actually...a silhouette is a shadow. The challenge description is "Use light to capture one or more shadows." I see no mention of what sort of shadow or shadowing...at all. There's no need to narrow the definitions/descriptions unnecessarily. Life is big, so why limit our perception of it. |
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09/11/2014 12:51:31 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by Beetle:
I am sorry, but clearly this challenge was a bit of a disappointment to me:
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Too many silhouettes? Too many blurry brown ribbon jobs? Not sure....... |
ooh. I haven't looked yet, but "blurry brown ribbon job[s]" presses a button. |
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09/11/2014 01:14:30 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by Beetle:
I am sorry, but clearly this challenge was a bit of a disappointment to me:
Stats: You have rated 70 of 70 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 30 images (43%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.8429.
Too many silhouettes? Too many blurry brown ribbon jobs? Not sure....... |
Based on your comment on my photo I am not sure you know what a shadow is. |
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09/11/2014 01:59:26 PM · #34 |
I agree with  beetle, I wasn't fond of much in this challenge. |
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09/11/2014 04:14:52 PM · #35 |
| doing the average again 5.2553 but 2 great comments as well,. |
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09/11/2014 04:51:52 PM · #36 |
Considering that I still dished out an average of 5.48, my shocking lack of knowledge can't be too tragic.
We have had a number of silhouette challenges before, so I think it is fair enough to "limit my perception" and look for shadows rather than silhouettes.
If you think that's the same thing, then I'm afraid I disagree.
Here is a very nice little explanation of both.
Again... no need to string me up, it's not like I voted only 1s and 2s, right? |
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09/11/2014 05:11:43 PM · #37 |
One of the great things about a DPC challenge is the diversity of interpretations both by photographers and viewers alike.
It's possible to agree to differ I think... |
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09/11/2014 05:13:53 PM · #38 |
| Ha! Tells you how much I've been paying attention. I was shooting photos for this challenge at lunchtime today. I guess I'm a little late, huh? |
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09/11/2014 06:22:43 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by Beetle:
Considering that I still dished out an average of 5.48, my shocking lack of knowledge can't be too tragic.
We have had a number of silhouette challenges before, so I think it is fair enough to "limit my perception" and look for shadows rather than silhouettes.
If you think that's the same thing, then I'm afraid I disagree.
Here is a very nice little explanation of both.
Again... no need to string me up, it's not like I voted only 1s and 2s, right? |
Apologies if you thought I was stringing you up...not my intention. A silhouette is just one kind of shadow/shadowing...never said they were the same. And the link...that's just one other person who uses a camera telling us what he thinks silhouette and shadow photography are. It's all cool...what Paul said, viva la diversity. |
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09/11/2014 06:30:58 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by RKT:
Originally posted by Beetle:
Considering that I still dished out an average of 5.48, my shocking lack of knowledge can't be too tragic.
We have had a number of silhouette challenges before, so I think it is fair enough to "limit my perception" and look for shadows rather than silhouettes.
If you think that's the same thing, then I'm afraid I disagree.
Here is a very nice little explanation of both.
Again... no need to string me up, it's not like I voted only 1s and 2s, right? |
Apologies if you thought I was stringing you up...not my intention. A silhouette is just one kind of shadow/shadowing...never said they were the same. And the link...that's just one other person who uses a camera telling us what he thinks silhouette and shadow photography are. It's all cool...what Paul said, viva la diversity. |
I know the score on my image is showing some interpretation diversity :) |
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09/11/2014 06:49:35 PM · #41 |
| one is not being strung up. sometimes it is hard to unsquirm at the redundant opprobrium so cavalierly cast upon the lower orders. |
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09/11/2014 07:32:55 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by tnun:
one is not being strung up. sometimes it is hard to unsquirm at the redundant opprobrium so cavalierly cast upon the lower orders. |
...and then there are times when some interpret critique as criticism....the two terms are NOT interchangeable.
Ray |
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09/11/2014 08:09:27 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by tnun:
one is not being strung up. sometimes it is hard to unsquirm at the redundant opprobrium so cavalierly cast upon the lower orders. |
hey man as long as it's opprobrium and not meconium...
off to resquirm... |
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09/14/2014 01:16:09 PM · #44 |
Votes: 65
Views: 114
Avg Vote: 5.5692
Comments: 2
Favorites: 1 < THANK YOU!!!
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09/14/2014 05:03:43 PM · #45 |
DPC never fails to fascinate me... Give us a challenge called "Shadows" and what do we expect to see *featured*? Well... "shadows", I would think... Photographs OF shadows, eh? Isn't this what we'd reasonably expect most people to be thinking along the lines of? Not photos *with* shadows, but photos *of* shadows, that'd be the ticket to mass approval (i.e. high votes), right? Seems obvious to me...
This is NOT to say that there aren't "other interpretations" possible, nor is to say that those "other interpretations" are "worse photographs", see? It's FINE to call a silhouette a "shadow" but, technically, I don't think it is: it's SHADE, not SHADOW. A shadow is the shape cast by an object being lit, not the object itself. IMO anyway... It's fine to say a landscape "has shadows in it" but, for the most part, they're not photos OF shadows. I mean, SOME of them are, but not your average landscape. They're photos OF spaces that happen to have shadows in them. I think the voters (and quite rightly, IMO, although it's ONLY my opinion) are focusing more on "photographs OF shadows", not "photographs that INCLUDE shadows".
So I'm not sure what people are getting worked up about. But that's just me. Y'all are entitled to your own opinions, I accept that. So are the voters: each and every one of them.
Message edited by author 2014-09-14 17:04:43. |
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09/14/2014 05:24:24 PM · #46 |
My definition would be that the abbrupt discontinuity of a local and smooth illumination is a shadow. This definition is inclusive of darknesses on a floor and of the "dark side of the moon" as being shadows. At the end of the day light is blocked.
Bear, if you sit in the shade, is that not the shadow of the thing that's blocking the light? I don't see any difference between shade and shadow...
Still, clearly the voters disagree with my interpretation too! :-)
Votes: 64
Views: 119
Avg Vote: 5.0469
Comments: 4
Message edited by author 2014-09-14 17:30:42. |
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09/14/2014 05:35:10 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by NiallOTuama:
My definition would be that the abbrupt discontinuity of a local and smooth illumination is a shadow. This definition is inclusive of darknesses on a floor and of the "dark side of the moon" as being shadows. At the end of the day light is blocked.
Bear, if you sit in the shade, is that not the shadow of the thing that's blocking the light? I don't see any difference between shade and shadow...
Still, clearly the voters disagree with my interpretation too! :-)
Votes: 64
Views: 119
Avg Vote: 5.0469
Comments: 4 |
Correct and the voters are being asked to vote on the SHADOW not the object in the shadow. |
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09/14/2014 05:39:59 PM · #48 |
A better phrasing of my point: A shadow is the projection of broken light. Bears definition of shade seems to be the effect when measured at blocking object itself. I can't see any significant differences between the broken light at the blocking object and that found on the floor that necessarily precludes one from being the other.
Technically shadows are 3D things, but we know them as the darkness on the ground. Were we to place something between you and your shadow on the ground, say a tall and wide plank of wood, and was your shadow to be cast upon that, is it still a shadow? Now, what happens in the limit as the blank comes into contact with your body? When does the projection onto the wood not become a shadow anymore? Now, let's ignore the wood and look at the dark half of your body. What is the difference between that and the sliding plank? I can't see any.
This would be a great pub debate! To tell you the truth I don't know nuttin' :-) I just have my own opinions and I like debating! Shading seems to be shadows on things, and it seems to be something someone might do to someone else's face was the former someone an artist. I don't know whether the same person would shade a shadow? Still, I don't know which is the parent; are all shadows shades or are all shades shadows? Using light to capture shadows, as per the description, could be viewed agnostic to where the shadow is found, perhaps? Though I may be reading that as I want to!
Message edited by author 2014-09-14 17:57:57. |
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09/14/2014 05:43:52 PM · #49 |
| Niall! Great to see you! Whether in shade or shadow... |
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09/14/2014 05:47:32 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by tanguera:
Niall! Great to see you! Whether in shade or shadow... |
You too tangy. Loving the new user icon! :-) |
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