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 08/11/2014 09:02:14 PM · #1

With the ND Filter


Without the ND Filter

I did not take this through the full editing process.. just wanted to see the difference to see if these filters really do work.. I think it may

I am loving my ND filter! Just received it from Ebay it is multi-coated, also came with the polarized one too

I can not wait to take and use this on vaca with me this weekend!

My thing is since I had the settings at an F8, manual mode, ISO 100, 1/25 I wonder if I should have used a different setting or aperture mode while using these kind of filters?

Message edited by author 2014-08-11 21:05:38.
 08/11/2014 09:35:39 PM · #2
Originally posted by jgirl57:
My thing is since I had the settings at an F8, manual mode, ISO 100, 1/25 I wonder if I should have used a different setting or aperture mode while using these kind of filters?

All you're seeing is an exposure difference. Assuming you meant a shutter speed of 1/125, shooting without a 2X ND filter at 1/250 would have produced the same result.
 08/11/2014 09:56:32 PM · #3
Yes, Thank you, gottcha, first time playing with these...

I was kinda hoping for some smoother movements in the sky too, but that would have taken longer exposures I think and a tripod
 08/11/2014 10:47:08 PM · #4
Originally posted by scalvert:

All you're seeing is an exposure difference. [/quote]

Way to rain on her parade :)

Julie, the purpose of an ND filter is to cut light, which it did, but you need a reason to. If you want smooth skies and you need to set the camera so the shutter stays open for a longer time. usually in the daytime its very hard to do this do to the sunlight, so you need to cut the light down with an ND filter, its easier at dusk or dawn, and yes you need a tripod...
08/12/2014 12:23:23 AM · #5
LOL!

It is rare my parade rains in the newbie world of learning things :-))

I am just trying to keep things straight of when to use things or when not too .. I brought these filters because most of my shooting will be during the most hated time of the day but it will be rare to get the shots I really want at the most favorite shooting times for vaca....
 08/12/2014 02:49:26 AM · #6
Originally posted by jgirl57:
.. I brought these filters because most of my shooting will be during the most hated time of the day but it will be rare to get the shots I really want at the most favorite shooting times for vaca....

Some more rain for your parade: a ND filter won't fix the blazing mid-day sun. Chances are unless you have a VERY strong one (or multiple filters stacked), you won't be able to turn a VERY bright day into late afternoon/night.

During bright days, one of your best friends might be a GRADUATED ND filter, because that is what will let you tone down the bright sky without losing detail in the much darker foreground.

Have a look at tutorial one and tutorial two.
 08/12/2014 06:54:28 AM · #7
So for these bright days would my better option be the CP Filter then?
I have one of those too I brought which was a multi-coated one..

Bring on the rain.. I rather be let known now rather than go on vaca to have came back with shitty pics and not have them do what I wanted them to do in the first place... LOL

I appreciate this feedback

Message edited by author 2014-08-12 06:54:54.
 08/12/2014 07:13:44 AM · #8
If you are heading out West, you will encounter dry, clear airâ€Â¦ sometimes at higher elevation. This means there will be less light diffusion. In a nutshell, you will experience high contrast situations of bright highlights and dark shadows. I usually set down my camera between 10am and 4pm. The Golden hours are always your best times of photography, even though you may still encounter dynamic ranges exceeding your camera's ability to capture detail in the shadows and detail in the highlights. Your eyes are better than your camera.

Because of the unique light situations in Colorado, I routinely use soft grad ND filters to dampen the brightness of the sky. It is common for me to use a 0.6 (2 stop) and a 0.9 (3 stop) soft graduated neutral density filter at the same time because that's what it takes to filter a scene from 10 stops down to 5 stops. I have a Lee Filter system.

In addition to the helpful dampening of the sky brightness with NDs, I will often bracket images' exposures for use in HDR Efex Pro2.

I almost never use a circular polarizing filter on the sky. For wide angle shots in Colorado, you will encounter banding across the sky. And, at high altitude, you can actually filter out too much polarized light and turn a natural blue sky to cobalt or black. I do use a polarizing filter on areas of water glare or on wet vegation to improve image saturation.
 08/12/2014 07:35:12 AM · #9
Yes, it will be in South Dakakota, Yellowstone/Tetons and Estes In Colorado is where we are going..

I will be able to get some awesome shots during golden hour but most of my shots will be during bright daylight which we won't have time to take it any other time.. we have a lot to do in so little time lol

(back home to the rockies for me) But that time when I was there I never had a camera to take pics..

Message edited by author 2014-08-12 07:36:24.
 08/12/2014 07:57:40 AM · #10
just bring a tripod and bracket.
 08/12/2014 08:48:25 AM · #11
Originally posted by Mike:
just bring a tripod and bracket.

The western US is not like New Jersey. (Thank God!)
 08/12/2014 10:38:28 AM · #12
More info: there are these wonderful things called "variable ND filters".

They let you vary the amount of light you are blocking, just by turning the filter ring (like a polarizer).

Some are very expensive, but I tried the Newer brand on Amazon and I thought it worked great--no color cast, and no "X" pattern (a side effect of the way they do these in cheaper filters) until the very top range of darkness.

One advantage of the variable ones is that you can remove the effect just by turning...that lets you focus, compose, etc. Then just darken for your exposure.

The one I bought was dirt cheap, but did the job admirably. Your mileage may vary. :)

Here's the link:
//www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0085IXB3C
 08/12/2014 11:42:32 AM · #13
Originally posted by hahn23:
Originally posted by Mike:
just bring a tripod and bracket.

The western US is not like New Jersey. (Thank God!)


which is why i dont shoot landscape.

Message edited by author 2014-08-12 11:42:43.
 08/12/2014 09:03:23 PM · #14
Birder̢۪s World readers̢۪ 15 favorite birding destinations in the U.S. and Canada.

2. Cape May, New Jersey

Can't be that bad.
 08/12/2014 09:48:38 PM · #15
Originally posted by nygold:
Birder̢۪s World readers̢۪ 15 favorite birding destinations in the U.S. and Canada.

2. Cape May, New Jersey

Can't be that bad.


something else i don't shoot :P

the problem with Jersey, especially south jersey is the whole area is basically, geologically speaking, a beach. Its flat, no sprawling landscapes, booooooooorrrrrrrrriiiiing...

head over to PA or NY or even northern NJ and its gets better. Delaware has more open space but its a beach too...
 08/12/2014 10:36:42 PM · #16
Originally posted by Mike:
the problem with Jersey, especially south jersey is the whole area is basically, geologically speaking, a beach. Its flat, no sprawling landscapes, booooooooorrrrrrrrriiiiing...

Cape Cod's nothing but a humongous SANDBAR and I still moved here for the landscape photography possibilities :-)
 08/13/2014 07:15:25 AM · #17
Originally posted by Mike:
Originally posted by nygold:
Birder̢۪s World readers̢۪ 15 favorite birding destinations in the U.S. and Canada.

2. Cape May, New Jersey

Can't be that bad.


something else i don't shoot :P

the problem with Jersey, especially south jersey is the whole area is basically, geologically speaking, a beach. Its flat, no sprawling landscapes, booooooooorrrrrrrrriiiiing...

head over to PA or NY or even northern NJ and its gets better. Delaware has more open space but its a beach too...


Yeah Mike BUT you see more chicks on the beach than you do in the woods. ;) Hey Now!!!!
 08/13/2014 09:24:23 AM · #18
Originally posted by Neil:
More info: there are these wonderful things called "variable ND filters"....The one I bought was dirt cheap, but did the job admirably. Your mileage may vary. :)

Here's the link:
//www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0085IXB3C


Thanks Neil, I found one on amazon.ca! My one and only ND filter is an 8, so I am really looking forward to playing with a 2-400!
 08/15/2014 06:19:38 PM · #19
Got one of the referenced variable NDs, works GREAT. Got another on the way for Penny. SUCH a bargain!

Message edited by author 2014-08-15 18:20:19.
 08/15/2014 06:42:44 PM · #20
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Got one of the referenced variable NDs, works GREAT. Got another on the way for Penny. SUCH a bargain!

Is that one of those under $20? Do you know if that type available in 58mm size?
 08/15/2014 06:53:01 PM · #21
Originally posted by Neil:
More info: there are these wonderful things called "variable ND filters".



The one I bought was dirt cheap, but did the job admirably. Your mileage may vary. :)

Here's the link:
//www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0085IXB3C


Mine got here today... thanks...
 08/15/2014 06:54:30 PM · #22
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Got one of the referenced variable NDs, works GREAT. Got another on the way for Penny. SUCH a bargain!

Is that one of those under $20? Do you know if that type available in 58mm size?


I think I saw one in 58mm....check amazon.com....though I may have seen them on amazon.ca...it's all a blur
 08/15/2014 08:41:20 PM · #23
Originally posted by snaffles:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Got one of the referenced variable NDs, works GREAT. Got another on the way for Penny. SUCH a bargain!

Is that one of those under $20? Do you know if that type available in 58mm size?


I think I saw one in 58mm....check amazon.com....though I may have seen them on amazon.ca...it's all a blur


I just got one in 62mm size for my FZ1000. (And I have a 52mm for my RX100.) So I'm sure you'll find a 58.

Message edited by author 2014-08-16 00:22:55.
 08/16/2014 07:16:41 AM · #24
Originally posted by nygold:
Yeah Mike BUT you see more chicks on the beach than you do in the woods. ;) Hey Now!!!!


and i've figured out how to get them into my "studio" :P

Message edited by Bear_Music - fixed quote.
 08/18/2014 02:17:49 PM · #25
Just got mine today, right after I got home from O'burg to get my new used lens...so although I now have one lens with which I can't use the filter as it's 67mm, oh well!

Works beautifully, had fun shooting skyscapes in the noonday sun :-) Definitely recommend it for 'scapers of all sorts. Look to your laurels, Cuttooth! ;-)
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