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02/28/2014 07:05:09 PM · #1 |
Hey all
It's no secret that my PS skills are pretty pitiful. I can, more or less, extract an image, and make some layers. But for the latest Expert challenge I'm going to need to learn how to warp and/or liquify convincingly, and maybe try to get some blending (also a total mystery to me) practice in too while I'm at it!!
I know there are tuts galore out there on the interwebz, but reading them doesn't help; they usually just confuse the crap out of me and for the most part they assume a certain level of PS knowledge on your part, which generally I lack. I need a tutor. Anyone out there brave or crazy enough to help?
PM me if actually seriously willing to help, otherwise just post a silly response here :-) |
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02/28/2014 07:07:59 PM · #2 |
Can I be tutored, too??? I suck at expert!!
Whoever volunteers, can you take on two?? |
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02/28/2014 07:28:11 PM · #3 |
| Maybe we can hire Gayban to do an on line tutorial ????? I can liquefy, fist lesson in getting rid of saggy flabby chin blob! LOL |
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02/28/2014 07:46:32 PM · #4 |
| Hmm nice try Katie, but methinks the resident experts in Expert are too busy with their own lives to help us mere mortals. Besides, Christophe says he learned everything just from looking it up online...which is what DOESN'T work!!! Basically I was born with a wee bit of a learning disability, so conventional shotgun approaches to teaching don't stick for me. |
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03/01/2014 03:35:28 AM · #5 |
| Katie, I think Gayban is more appropriate for that other thread :) |
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03/01/2014 07:22:53 AM · #6 |
| Just look it up on you tube.....I'm serious!! |
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03/01/2014 08:40:19 AM · #7 |
This youtube tutorial is probably the best I came across regarding the Liquify tool. I believe it is easy to understand and actually presents different options that are often forgotten, and yet very useful.
Feel free to PM me if you need any precision or additional explanation. |
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03/01/2014 09:01:25 AM · #8 |
| I want to liquify the shallow choice making mechanisms in Glen Dewis's typical male brain. |
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03/01/2014 09:14:44 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by snaffles:
Christophe says he learned everything just from looking it up online...which is what DOESN'T work!!! |
Everybody learns differently is what this sounds like. I'm a "nuts & bolts" learner. I need to understand HOW something works, what is happening under the hood, in order gain a competency with it. I try to teach something to my wife that way it confuses the heck out of her with unnecessary details . She just wants to know what to do, but I can't explain it that way when the answer is always "It depends".
Message edited by author 2014-03-01 09:16:31.
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03/01/2014 09:16:17 AM · #10 |
| Glyn Dewis has many good tips and stuff well worth looking at. |
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03/01/2014 09:35:34 AM · #11 |
Thanks all for the offers of help and advice. In terms of the learning stuff, let's put it this way: I own PS 5 for Dummies and that book is totally useless, at least for me! It's far too vague and as tends to happen, seems to assume a level of knowledge on the reader's part.
I've seen useful stuff on youtube, but the thing with me is retaining the info - usually I sit there scribbling notes and pausing the vid a million times so I get everything. Then at least I have something concrete, in the form of notes, to refer back to. I have seen useful tuts on Worth1k, and may be able to adjust one or two to suit my needs.
Must run and finish getting the rest of my source images shot. Back later! :-) |
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03/01/2014 09:42:56 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by snaffles:
I've seen useful stuff on youtube, but the thing with me is retaining the info - usually I sit there scribbling notes and pausing the vid a million times so I get everything. |
Personally I don't take notes, I prefer to try things directly in Photoshop instead. This way, I remember much better where things are located in the interface, I can immediately manipulate the tools, which makes things much clearer in my mind. That way, I have all these options available in my head when I work on an image, and things flow relatively naturally (and if not, I can always look again quickly at some tutorial, but I already know what info I'm searching for). |
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03/01/2014 10:06:59 AM · #13 |
| Glyn right...I stand corrected.....thanks Tiny |
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03/01/2014 02:05:33 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by gyaban:
Originally posted by snaffles:
I've seen useful stuff on youtube, but the thing with me is retaining the info - usually I sit there scribbling notes and pausing the vid a million times so I get everything. |
Personally I don't take notes, I prefer to try things directly in Photoshop instead. This way, I remember much better where things are located in the interface, I can immediately manipulate the tools, which makes things much clearer in my mind. That way, I have all these options available in my head when I work on an image, and things flow relatively naturally (and if not, I can always look again quickly at some tutorial, but I already know what info I'm searching for). |
But I have to take notes. I don't have high-speed internet service so I can't watch videos at home. |
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03/01/2014 03:14:27 PM · #15 |
Ever since PS version 3.0 (1994) added Layers and made true non-destructive editing possible, I think the best way to learn to use a tool is to copy what you want to edit to a new layer and experiment away ΓΆ€” you can always throw it away and start over, or make a new layer and try a different tweak without discarding the first try. With disk space so cheap nowadays (compared to then) there's little reason to not try different things.
If you don't have one, I recommend a small Wacom tablet if you want to exhibit less frustration, greater precision, and a reduced chance of repetitive-motion injury when doing fine editing ...
In looking up the version/date info, I realized I've been using Photoshop since version 0.87 (1989) when it was distributed with the Barneyscan film scanner, before Adobe bought the distribution license from the Knoll brothers. Too bad I'm still not an "expert" ...:-( |
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03/01/2014 05:25:46 PM · #16 |
I've never been able to learn much from books or videos either. The only way for me is to just practice and experiment. I don't have any formulaic processes I use - I have a few techniques I use over, but the majority of the time, I couldn't even tell you all (if any) of the steps I used to edit any particular photo. Which is the reason I have never been able to put any tutorials together or to tutor anyone - it's painful and time consuming. The only tip I can think of in regards to liquify is to use a series of small movements - tread very lightly - move things around little bits at time and use the appropriate sized brush so you're only moving the things you want to.
Sorry I am not much help with this. |
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