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11/11/2013 04:30:07 PM · #26 |
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11/11/2013 05:32:09 PM · #27 |
BUMMMMMMMMMMMMP
I want this! |
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11/11/2013 06:13:02 PM · #28 |
| If someone points to a how-to, I would give it a go.. |
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11/11/2013 06:32:21 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by see:
If someone points to a how-to, I would give it a go.. |
I don't know the location of one but here us a real quick summary...
1. Set up your camera on a tripod and frame your scene.
2. Take a bunch of shots
3. Load shots into layers in photoshop, or your editor of choice
4. Mask in/out people, animals, etc. as you see fit.
Message edited by author 2013-11-11 18:32:48. |
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11/11/2013 06:43:38 PM · #30 |
| Yea, I just started looking into masking. I will start playing tomorrow. |
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11/11/2013 09:03:28 PM · #31 |
It would be fun. I hope I could make suitable weather and suitable location coincide.
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11/11/2013 09:08:36 PM · #32 |
| This sounds like fun. An Expert challenge that I'd be ALL for. |
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11/11/2013 09:25:43 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by see:
Yea, I just started looking into masking. I will start playing tomorrow. |
As described, this technique almost requires a tablet ...
Note that there is already one Expert challenge open for submissions, -- people do tend to complain when they come clustered too closely.... |
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11/11/2013 09:49:45 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by see:
Yea, I just started looking into masking. I will start playing tomorrow. |
As described, this technique almost requires a tablet ...
Note that there is already one Expert challenge open for submissions, -- people do tend to complain when they come clustered too closely.... |
I, likely the most vocal of those "people", promise to not complain. I also think the current expert topic is a great choice.
There. On record. :D |
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11/12/2013 12:18:47 AM · #35 |
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11/12/2013 07:35:13 AM · #36 |
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11/12/2013 07:43:46 AM · #37 |
I think a special rule should be added...
"Multiple captures may be used, however the framing for all captures must be identical." |
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11/12/2013 08:23:46 AM · #38 |
And give us two weeks (or longer). Since this would take editing that many of us have never attempted before, extra time would be appreciated.
Or, worse case, make sure it's a Friday challenge. I'm sure many of us can really only get out to shoot on the weekends, and that would at least give us the evenings during the week to work on it.
Message edited by author 2013-11-12 08:31:42. |
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11/12/2013 09:54:16 AM · #39 |
Originally posted by MarkB:
I think a special rule should be added...
"Multiple captures may be used, however the framing for all captures must be identical." |
But isn't that already in effect under Advanced rules? |
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11/12/2013 10:35:35 AM · #40 |
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11/12/2013 10:46:19 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by snaffles:
Originally posted by MarkB:
I think a special rule should be added...
"Multiple captures may be used, however the framing for all captures must be identical." |
But isn't that already in effect under Advanced rules? |
Sort of, but it also requires the scene not to change. I recall one DQ where duck/goose appeared in one frame and not another. Since the duck was not in every source image, the scene changed it was deemed a DQ.
I was suggesting the rule to ensure that all the images were of taking with the same framing to keep with the spirit of the challenge idea. Otherwise, under expert, you could just place anything you shot during the week into the scene. |
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11/12/2013 11:42:07 AM · #42 |
Originally posted by MarkB:
Originally posted by snaffles:
Originally posted by MarkB:
I think a special rule should be added...
"Multiple captures may be used, however the framing for all captures must be identical." |
But isn't that already in effect under Advanced rules? |
Sort of, but it also requires the scene not to change. I recall one DQ where duck/goose appeared in one frame and not another. Since the duck was not in every source image, the scene changed it was deemed a DQ.
I was suggesting the rule to ensure that all the images were of taking with the same framing to keep with the spirit of the challenge idea. Otherwise, under expert, you could just place anything you shot during the week into the scene. |
good point |
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11/12/2013 11:51:33 AM · #43 |
| Frankly that whole 'multiple-captures with same framing but NO changes to composition' rule totally baffles me. Yes, I *get* that the idea of being able to combine up to 10 captures of the same landscape with clouds, water etc is so they can then piece together a pic compiled of the best wave, best light, best clouds, etc. But to me it's too much of a risk; it's just a DQ waiting to happen IMHO. So I remain a single-capture person. |
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11/12/2013 12:50:04 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by snaffles:
Frankly that whole 'multiple-captures with same framing but NO changes to composition' rule totally baffles me. Yes, I *get* that the idea of being able to combine up to 10 captures of the same landscape with clouds, water etc is so they can then piece together a pic compiled of the best wave, best light, best clouds, etc. But to me it's too much of a risk; it's just a DQ waiting to happen IMHO. So I remain a single-capture person. |
The point is that we are only allowing multiple captures to extend the dynamic range or Depth of Focus to overcome the physical limitations of the lens and sensor, but not to create a scene which is different than what you'd capture in a single shot if your camera had a "better" sensor or lens. It is not exactly intended to piece together the "best" element from each shot ...
In this challenge suggestion, it is explicitly intended to create a scene which never existed by combining multiple elements which appear within the same scene at different times; the additional restriction prevents combining multiple backgrounds into a panorama, or adding elements added from another scene altogether. |
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11/14/2013 09:59:45 PM · #45 |
| Bump for roll over, let's get this done. |
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11/14/2013 10:11:39 PM · #46 |
| Would be very interesting and a fun experiment. |
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11/15/2013 12:08:46 PM · #47 |
It would have been a better choice an extra rule to force people to shoot from the exact same spot.
I like the idea and I'll be in, even if the photographer's images seem to me really boring. In a crowded day/hour he would get the same result... more or less, of course :)
Message edited by author 2013-11-15 12:09:27. |
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11/16/2013 01:48:11 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by snaffles:
Frankly that whole 'multiple-captures with same framing but NO changes to composition' rule totally baffles me. Yes, I *get* that the idea of being able to combine up to 10 captures of the same landscape with clouds, water etc is so they can then piece together a pic compiled of the best wave, best light, best clouds, etc. But to me it's too much of a risk; it's just a DQ waiting to happen IMHO. So I remain a single-capture person. |
The point is that we are only allowing multiple captures to extend the dynamic range or Depth of Focus to overcome the physical limitations of the lens and sensor, but not to create a scene which is different than what you'd capture in a single shot if your camera had a "better" sensor or lens. It is not exactly intended to piece together the "best" element from each shot ...
In this challenge suggestion, it is explicitly intended to create a scene which never existed by combining multiple elements which appear within the same scene at different times; the additional restriction prevents combining multiple backgrounds into a panorama, or adding elements added from another scene altogether. |
Given that this is running under "Expert" rules, multiple images isn't an issue at all - correct? As long as they are all taken within the challenge time frame ... |
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11/16/2013 04:10:19 PM · #49 |
| There's no yellow flag denoting additional rules so I think you're right, although if its not composed in the spirit of the challenge I'd imagine it would suffer in voting |
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11/16/2013 06:42:37 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by MarkB:
Tutorial sort of here |
I was reading his 8 commandments and was confused, until I got to #6... then suddenly they all made sense.
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