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 09/28/2013 03:47:05 PM · #51
Originally posted by GeneralE:

At this point I think it best to trust Cory to vote fairly whether he knows the photographer or not. As I said, if the change is "standardized" -- that is, he voted on all the photos first but penalized all "unlinked" photos exactly one point, and then restored that one point (and nothing else) after receiving the link -- then I think it's fine. I don't think it would be fair to adjust the scores more than that.


Your standardized theory is a little flawed. There is no guarantee that all people effected would send a PM to Cory. Actually many people here don't even read these threads.

My personal view is that Cory is quite within his right to vote down entries that aren't easily linked to the original and that should be the end of it.

The solution to this problem would be in the future making an extra rule stating a link must be provided in the title. This argument comes overtime we have these types of challenge and it is getting a little disappointing that an easy solution is not implemented.
 09/28/2013 03:57:54 PM · #52
Originally posted by Stagolee:
Originally posted by GeneralE:

At this point I think it best to trust Cory to vote fairly whether he knows the photographer or not. As I said, if the change is "standardized" -- that is, he voted on all the photos first but penalized all "unlinked" photos exactly one point, and then restored that one point (and nothing else) after receiving the link -- then I think it's fine. I don't think it would be fair to adjust the scores more than that.


Your standardized theory is a little flawed. There is no guarantee that all people effected would send a PM to Cory. Actually many people here don't even read these threads.

My personal view is that Cory is quite within his right to vote down entries that aren't easily linked to the original and that should be the end of it.

The solution to this problem would be in the future making an extra rule stating a link must be provided in the title. This argument comes overtime we have these types of challenge and it is getting a little disappointing that an easy solution is not implemented.


+1
 09/28/2013 04:06:15 PM · #53
Originally posted by tanguera:
Originally posted by Stagolee:
Originally posted by GeneralE:

At this point I think it best to trust Cory to vote fairly whether he knows the photographer or not. As I said, if the change is "standardized" -- that is, he voted on all the photos first but penalized all "unlinked" photos exactly one point, and then restored that one point (and nothing else) after receiving the link -- then I think it's fine. I don't think it would be fair to adjust the scores more than that.


Your standardized theory is a little flawed. There is no guarantee that all people effected would send a PM to Cory. Actually many people here don't even read these threads.

My personal view is that Cory is quite within his right to vote down entries that aren't easily linked to the original and that should be the end of it.

The solution to this problem would be in the future making an extra rule stating a link must be provided in the title. This argument comes overtime we have these types of challenge and it is getting a little disappointing that an easy solution is not implemented.


+1


+2
 09/28/2013 04:52:46 PM · #54
Originally posted by Alexkc:
Originally posted by tanguera:
Originally posted by Stagolee:
Originally posted by GeneralE:

At this point I think it best to trust Cory to vote fairly whether he knows the photographer or not. As I said, if the change is "standardized" -- that is, he voted on all the photos first but penalized all "unlinked" photos exactly one point, and then restored that one point (and nothing else) after receiving the link -- then I think it's fine. I don't think it would be fair to adjust the scores more than that.


Your standardized theory is a little flawed. There is no guarantee that all people effected would send a PM to Cory. Actually many people here don't even read these threads.

My personal view is that Cory is quite within his right to vote down entries that aren't easily linked to the original and that should be the end of it.

The solution to this problem would be in the future making an extra rule stating a link must be provided in the title. This argument comes overtime we have these types of challenge and it is getting a little disappointing that an easy solution is not implemented.


+1


+2


+3
 09/28/2013 05:10:06 PM · #55
All I know is that since this argument started my score has dropped over .5. Yep, over a full half point. And my image is one that is easily compared to the original.

Disappointing, people.

:(
 09/28/2013 05:13:47 PM · #56
As one of the photographers affected both ways by Cory's actions (punished, redeemed, and repunished, so to speak), let me go on record here as saying "I don't care!" It's all in good fun anyway, and sometime people take it a little too seriously. This was a very unusual situation. I entered KNOWING that I would get hammered, and I'm getting hammered, so it's all good.

The thing of it is, and I say this with a BIG grin, the information that I did bury within my title should have been sufficient to lead a smart guy like him to the title within a couple minutes, easily. So, what can I say? :-)
 09/28/2013 06:02:30 PM · #57
*plonks several types of beers, wine, bread and cheese on the table and sits down*

The practical upshot is that both PennyStreet , Cory and others who have joined the debate is that, in their own ways, trying to help. I said my piece earlier because as generous as Cory's offer is, I think it skirts dangerously on the acceptability on the voting rules. Once the vote has been cast, I think it should only be changed if *you*, the voter, are willing to go back to determine the merits of the photo without ANY outside influences. Cory, I just don't want to see you burned for that....and I'd hate to see the backlash that may or may not be visiting on parties that are not involved in this debate.

There is more I could say, but I start and stop and the words are beginning to swim before my eyes.

I'm hungry and brain-tired, so let's eat!
Oh, and anyone is welcome to bring some food or drinks to this table, sit and eat:-)

Message edited by author 2013-09-28 18:06:18.
 09/28/2013 06:50:55 PM · #58
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
As one of the photographers affected both ways by Cory's actions (punished, redeemed, and repunished, so to speak), let me go on record here as saying "I don't care!" It's all in good fun anyway, and sometime people take it a little too seriously. This was a very unusual situation. I entered KNOWING that I would get hammered, and I'm getting hammered, so it's all good.

The thing of it is, and I say this with a BIG grin, the information that I did bury within my title should have been sufficient to lead a smart guy like him to the title within a couple minutes, easily. So, what can I say? :-)


Love ya brother Bear, but I had to be fair.

Of course I could have found it in a few minutes. I simply was feeling rather more judicial and much less detectivish.

Like I said, I certainly could have found many of them, easily. Yours still would have presented a small challenge even when looking. I'm sure you're getting murdered for it.

Hell, honestly, I wish mine wasn't doing as well as it is.
 09/28/2013 06:52:46 PM · #59
and as a matter of a fact I think I'll go amend the comments such that it appears it never happened. why not.. in the end that's the net effect - nothing changed. Just a fun bit of drama I suppose.
 09/28/2013 06:56:45 PM · #60
Originally posted by pamb:
All I know is that since this argument started my score has dropped over .5. Yep, over a full half point. And my image is one that is easily compared to the original.

Disappointing, people.

:(


And the worst part was that I hadn't even touched it yet. :(
 09/28/2013 07:44:12 PM · #61
Originally posted by CNovack:
methinks these scoreboards are a vanishing breed.


Methinks youthinks right. Mesorry.

Message edited by author 2013-09-28 19:52:28.
 09/28/2013 09:30:13 PM · #62
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by CNovack:
methinks these scoreboards are a vanishing breed.


Methinks youthinks right. Mesorry.


They need not be. It is what one makes of it:-)

Wow, I've had no takers on the food on the table and it's good cheese (Mt. Tam, Raclette, Manchego...)!!!! I was sure that Bear was going to bring some yummy dish to the table and several others had something good to share:-) Hmmm, maybe I should have brought a dessert?!:-)

Anyway had a full diner and off to comment again.

Stats: You have rated 40 of 40 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 17 images (41%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.1750.

Feel free to join in:-)

Message edited by author 2013-09-28 21:30:36.
 09/28/2013 09:50:20 PM · #63
Originally posted by CNovack:
Wow, I've had no takers on the food on the table and it's good cheese (Mt. Tam, Raclette, Manchego...)!!!! I was sure that Bear was going to bring some yummy dish to the table and several others had something good to share:-) Hmmm, maybe I should have brought a dessert?!:-)

I brought soup!

09/28/2013 10:11:34 PM · #64


I brought some nuts to go with the cheese. Although we've probably got enough nuts around here as it is. :)

eta: Art, I need some of that soup, fersure.

Message edited by author 2013-09-28 22:12:47.
 09/28/2013 10:11:44 PM · #65
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by CNovack:
Wow, I've had no takers on the food on the table and it's good cheese (Mt. Tam, Raclette, Manchego...)!!!! I was sure that Bear was going to bring some yummy dish to the table and several others had something good to share:-) Hmmm, maybe I should have brought a dessert?!:-)

I brought soup!



What? No popcorn? And this would have been the perfect meal for it.
 09/28/2013 10:14:12 PM · #66
Here... Have some Meat.



And let me wave my knife wildly about for a while.
09/28/2013 10:22:19 PM · #67
Originally posted by Cory:
Here... Have some Meat.


... and some drink ...
09/28/2013 10:34:17 PM · #68
Well, I can offer the memory of a feast, prepared by Bear_Music a while back: ,
or perhaps the fish that got away, (don't ask), or even
the plate of bruschetta that I made 'from scratch' a week or so ago.
Yes, let's EAT!
 09/28/2013 10:37:58 PM · #69
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by CNovack:
Wow, I've had no takers on the food on the table and it's good cheese (Mt. Tam, Raclette, Manchego...)!!!! I was sure that Bear was going to bring some yummy dish to the table and several others had something good to share:-) Hmmm, maybe I should have brought a dessert?!:-)

I brought soup!



The proof is absolute!:-P

Cool! The table is filling out nicely everyone!

Brought some more food:-):-):-)


Did a little more tonight - some good stuff in there - one that made me stop and really think.

Stats: You have rated 40 of 40 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 20 images (49%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.2000.

Message edited by author 2013-09-28 22:38:56.
 09/29/2013 12:17:57 AM · #70
If anyone needs to cook, here's a kitchen:



And here's some dessert:



Message edited by author 2013-09-29 00:19:38.
 09/29/2013 07:17:49 AM · #71
I personally think it was silly to expect voters to do research any image prior to voting. Its hard enough to get them to vote in the first place.

For this challenge I simply am going on good faith that your submission is a redo of someone elses DQ and voting accordingly. And if not, so what, its not the end of the World.
 09/29/2013 10:06:53 AM · #72
Originally posted by Garry:
I personally think it was silly to expect voters to do research any image prior to voting. Its hard enough to get them to vote in the first place.

For this challenge I simply am going on good faith that your submission is a redo of someone elses DQ and voting accordingly. And if not, so what, its not the end of the World.


Not comparing the photo with the original has no point in this challenge. This is not a FS. But as you said, we'll be still alive after this challenge.
 09/29/2013 10:47:16 AM · #73
It's all about realistic expectations. If we could link the thumbnail of the predecessor to the submission, then it'd work. But making the voter go look for it just was never going to work.
 09/29/2013 11:16:57 AM · #74
Of course. But the problem is up to the author of the photo, not to the voter.

09/29/2013 11:32:46 AM · #75
Originally posted by Garry:
. . .
For this challenge I simply am going on good faith that your submission is a redo of someone elses DQ and voting accordingly. . . .


That will definitely work in my favor, Garry :) My "copy" pales in comparison to the original but I think doesn't look that bad on its own LOL
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