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09/08/2013 10:34:34 PM · #26 |
Although I completely understand that this type of imagery is not everyone's "cup of tea", I find it disheartening to read that the image was voted "below average" for not being literal enough. Are we really penalizing creativity? |
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09/08/2013 10:53:03 PM · #27 |
I didn't vote it below average for "not being literal enough". I voted it below average for not engaging me at any level that's meaningful to me. Even technically, I find it to be muddy and lacking in clarity. |
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09/08/2013 10:57:45 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by scalvert: Originally posted by posthumous: I also think it humorous that Cory thinks we are somehow going to miss a blue ribbon. |
He was calling attention to the background story for people who might not otherwise read it. Maybe you missed that? |
I did miss it. Now I know it wasn't original after all. Oh, well. I give the benefit of the doubt when I vote. |
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09/08/2013 11:27:34 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by tanguera: Although I completely understand that this type of imagery is not everyone's "cup of tea", I find it disheartening to read that the image was voted "below average" for not being literal enough. Are we really penalizing creativity? |
Okay, dinner is late, I am on my second glass of wine.... Tangy, I just don't get your conclusion that a low vote "penalizes creativity." I even don't get the idea that low votes penalize anything. If I don't like something and express it in some way I really don't feel that I am laying on a penalty.
But I wonder. SHOULD I feel that I am being penalized by all the low votes I have so successfully gotten? Has my creativity been thereby dampened? Maybe if I had not gotten low votes I might win a ribbon/ribbons?
Dinner, by the way, will be tourtiere, cooked by the incumbent other, herbed and spiced by moi. We have worked hard most of the day preparing the openings for some new thermal paned windows. Almost but not quite ready, even though we have put a lot of work into it. Sort of like photography. Were we not such bumblers the windows would be installed, and the neighbours would bring champagne and blue ribbons. Maybe. Too bad they will miss the tourtiere. |
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09/08/2013 11:50:22 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by tnun: Okay, dinner is late, I am on my second glass of wine.... Tangy, I just don't get your conclusion that a low vote "penalizes creativity." I even don't get the idea that low votes penalize anything. If I don't like something and express it in some way I really don't feel that I am laying on a penalty.
But I wonder. SHOULD I feel that I am being penalized by all the low votes I have so successfully gotten? Has my creativity been thereby dampened? Maybe if I had not gotten low votes I might win a ribbon/ribbons?
Dinner, by the way, will be tourtiere, cooked by the incumbent other, herbed and spiced by moi. We have worked hard most of the day preparing the openings for some new thermal paned windows. Almost but not quite ready, even though we have put a lot of work into it. Sort of like photography. Were we not such bumblers the windows would be installed, and the neighbours would bring champagne and blue ribbons. Maybe. Too bad they will miss the tourtiere. |
POST OF THE WEEK!
I'll give you a bear paw for this one :-)
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09/09/2013 12:32:47 AM · #31 |
Thank you. The tourtiere was delicious. |
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09/09/2013 01:12:23 AM · #32 |
I was reacting to some sentiments expressed here and elsewhere that this (among other images) received a lower score because it didn't show "rain". To me this seems like penalizing originality.
As I said in my comment, I understand that this, as with all styles of imagery, is not everyone's cup of tea, as Bear said. That is something different. Well, to me it is :-)
And to my knowledge, I have never, knowingly, had tourtière. You'll have to have me over next time. |
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09/09/2013 01:33:29 AM · #33 |
Hi everyone. :) I just saw this thread and thought I would share my thoughts.
First of all, I just want to say thanks to Cory for being such a nice supporter of my effort this week. I think everyone likes to feel that what they've done is valid or appreciated on some level, and all of the kind words people have left have truly made my day. I've spent a lot of time away from DPC trying to learn and grow, but voluntarily asking to be "judged" never gets less nerve-wracking for me. To be awarded a ribbon feels amazing, and for me, some validation that at least I'm headed in the right direction. In truth, I am grateful for all of the comments people left - even the critical ones. I just wish that when someone leaves a vote of "1," they would explain what they think is so awful about it so that the photographer can process that information moving forward.
For those who feel my photo is too contrived for a nature-themed challenge, I totally get it. I enjoy setting up little scenes and there will probably be plenty more contrived images to come. :P As someone pointed out, "real rain" wasn't an option in the 100+ temperatures of Los Angeles last month so I tried to do something creative with it instead. That being said, I am in awe of those who capture breathless moments in nature in ways my eyes don't see. That's the beauty of photography (and art in general) to me. It's a glimpse into someone else's mind and perspective. For some, every challenge might be better served as a "Basic Editing" challenge. I actually prefer restraint in post-processing myself. Then again, I'm completely blown away every time gyaban uploads something. My favorite in this challenge actually placed in the 30s. There are no "rules" for what makes the best photo, just a lot of opinions. :) And that is perfectly fine; I respect them all. I came back here because I enjoy the sense of community and feel like the challenges are a way to push myself even further. Even this discussion is valuable to me. It helps me create goals, too. My newest one: get Bear_Music to like one of my photos! :)
Thank you for all of your comments, whatever they may be.
Message edited by author 2013-09-09 04:44:31. |
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09/09/2013 02:57:17 AM · #34 |
Sometimes the best images are the ones you can't control.... |
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09/09/2013 04:54:48 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by Neat: Sometimes the best images are the ones you can't control.... |
Sometimes, of course, but not always :)
Haakon your image is wonderful. I like set up shots (being a guy who does many of them) and yours is an amazing effort. Of course everyone is perfectly free to express his preference for a different kind of photography, but it's undeniable how your dedication and final result are stunning. |
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09/09/2013 06:23:00 AM · #36 |
Love your attitude to life and photography Haakon. With that, everything you do in life is great. It reminds us all of the truth and humanity in endevour. Hats off to you. |
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09/09/2013 10:17:59 AM · #37 |
Just wanted to say, here's hoping to see more of your work here. I really liked the end result, and I enjoyed reading how you achieved it.
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09/09/2013 11:06:49 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by Alexkc: I like set up shots (being a guy who does many of them) |
Ditto. Although I'm a girl :-) |
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09/09/2013 11:07:07 AM · #39 |
I set up shots all of the time, and I can appreciate a well executed set up shot. For myself, I get much more satisfaction out of a candid or "spotted" shot I have taken that scores well than a set up shot with a similar score.
Regarding:
Originally posted by Haakon: ...It helps me create goals, too. My newest one: get Bear_Music to like one of my photos! :) |
It is good to have goals to motivate you. I am still working on getting an image on Robert's favorites page. Someday, if I keep at it... |
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09/09/2013 11:21:40 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by tnun: Thank you. The tourtiere was delicious. |
Says you, and that's your thoughts on the matter.
I however, find tourtiere a bit offputting and it's not my thing, so i'll give you a 3 vote on the meal ;)
I'm sure, however, that your target audience enjoyed it immensely, and that, after all, is why you made it. :) |
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09/09/2013 11:56:33 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by tanguera: And to my knowledge, I have never, knowingly, had tourtière. You'll have to have me over next time. |
The best analogue would be a Shepherd's Pie. It's a Canadian version of that. Some people use a pastry crust, some a mashed potato crust; obviously the latter's more like a Shepherd's Pie. |
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09/09/2013 12:22:55 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by tanguera: Originally posted by Alexkc: I like set up shots (being a guy who does many of them) |
Ditto. Although I'm a girl :-) |
I have a lot of respect for setup shots. That's why I want them to be original. |
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09/09/2013 01:10:29 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by RyanW: Originally posted by tnun: Thank you. The tourtiere was delicious. |
Says you, and that's your thoughts on the matter.
I however, find tourtiere a bit offputting and it's not my thing, so i'll give you a 3 vote on the meal ;)
I'm sure, however, that your target audience enjoyed it immensely, and that, after all, is why you made it. :) |
Even French Cooking gives this recipe only four out of five stars. Of course they also suggest it be served in the winter months or is it already winter in the frozen North? Thus giving considerable weight to the scoring, no doubt.
:) |
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09/09/2013 03:07:52 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by sfalice: Originally posted by RyanW: Originally posted by tnun: Thank you. The tourtiere was delicious. |
Says you, and that's your thoughts on the matter.
I however, find tourtiere a bit offputting and it's not my thing, so i'll give you a 3 vote on the meal ;)
I'm sure, however, that your target audience enjoyed it immensely, and that, after all, is why you made it. :) |
Even French Cooking gives this recipe only four out of five stars. Of course they also suggest it be served in the winter months or is it already winter in the frozen North? Thus giving considerable weight to the scoring, no doubt.
:) |
We've had frost in the mornings. I guess it's okay to make it now.....
although it goes quite well with a side of sarcasm. I hope that people realize i'm just picking on tnun in a playful way :) |
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09/09/2013 04:03:04 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by RyanW: [quo//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=post&FORUM_POST_ID=7101086#postte=sfalice] Originally posted by RyanW: Originally posted by tnun: Thank you. The tourtiere was delicious. |
Says you, and that's your thoughts on the matter.
I however, find tourtiere a bit offputting and it's not my thing, so i'll give you a 3 vote on the meal ;)
I'm sure, however, that your target audience enjoyed it immensely, and that, after all, is why you made it. :) |
Even French Cooking gives this recipe only four out of five stars. Of course they also suggest it be served in the winter months or is it already winter in the frozen North? Thus giving considerable weight to the scoring, no doubt.
:) |
We've had frost in the mornings. I guess it's okay to make it now.....
although it goes quite well with a side of sarcasm. I hope that people realize i'm just picking on tnun in a playful way :) [/quote]
Is there any other way to pick on tnun? Remember there's a passel of ferocious dawgs in that household.
:)

Message edited by author 2013-09-09 16:03:55. |
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09/09/2013 04:43:18 PM · #46 |
All's I want to say is that the set-up is different from the meal. (Although if you look carefully there are gaps in the walls where the early autumn winds might like to pretend it's winter. Tourtiere is not for lightweights).

Message edited by author 2013-09-09 16:47:36. |
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09/09/2013 08:08:41 PM · #47 |
heh, if this picture was taken from a "gap" in the wall (one of two) then i'd say make all the tourtiere you can handle - you'll need the added warmth ;) |
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09/10/2013 05:12:32 AM · #48 |
its really wonderful shooter images..... |
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09/10/2013 08:34:33 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by Haakon: Hi everyone. :) I just saw this thread and thought I would share my thoughts.
First of all, I just want to say thanks to Cory for being such a nice supporter of my effort this week. I think everyone likes to feel that what they've done is valid or appreciated on some level, and all of the kind words people have left have truly made my day. I've spent a lot of time away from DPC trying to learn and grow, but voluntarily asking to be "judged" never gets less nerve-wracking for me. To be awarded a ribbon feels amazing, and for me, some validation that at least I'm headed in the right direction. In truth, I am grateful for all of the comments people left - even the critical ones. I just wish that when someone leaves a vote of "1," they would explain what they think is so awful about it so that the photographer can process that information moving forward.
For those who feel my photo is too contrived for a nature-themed challenge, I totally get it. I enjoy setting up little scenes and there will probably be plenty more contrived images to come. :P As someone pointed out, "real rain" wasn't an option in the 100+ temperatures of Los Angeles last month so I tried to do something creative with it instead. That being said, I am in awe of those who capture breathless moments in nature in ways my eyes don't see. That's the beauty of photography (and art in general) to me. It's a glimpse into someone else's mind and perspective. For some, every challenge might be better served as a "Basic Editing" challenge. I actually prefer restraint in post-processing myself. Then again, I'm completely blown away every time gyaban uploads something. My favorite in this challenge actually placed in the 30s. There are no "rules" for what makes the best photo, just a lot of opinions. :) And that is perfectly fine; I respect them all. I came back here because I enjoy the sense of community and feel like the challenges are a way to push myself even further. Even this discussion is valuable to me. It helps me create goals, too. My newest one: get Bear_Music to like one of my photos! :)
Thank you for all of your comments, whatever they may be. |
Quite a measured response, and a humble one. And, I might add, for the record, he has good taste ("My favorite in this challenge actually placed in the 30s"- was my shot).
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